I saw this pic in facebook

Maybe it should give some idea for a future mods

Intercooler Mods



This post has been edited by Norsaiful Zaidi: Nov 23 2012, 11:29 PM

Installed front and rear Ultra Racing bars. Can feel the improvement even at first corner

What's the damage price-wise? And how much comfort is sacrificed for said performance?

Damage? PM for Drex Chan in Prevoc FB.
Comfort? No idea yet, feel the car is much stable and solid in cornering.
I hardly bring in any passengers, so not really priority in that.

Thank you for the reply. There's way too many road humps in my taman. I'm more concerned about comfort.

cant sleep, so decide to browse doing some reading b4 sleeping. So many interesting things happened in others' thread which not related to prtn of course.

It seems that others have some nigling problems which namely minor by them, n it keep me smiling on how civilize they r on probs n never ever heard they mentioned it in any open topic on rattling, sluggishness, gluk2 sound etc etc even oil leak. It seems that they really accept it with open heart even some are unresolved. Some even mentioning that some hi tech car n award winning car dont have auto lock function to comply with ncap n it is standard across all modern cars (i wonder why preve n exora has autolock function :-), n does it means preve n exora not comply with ncap? :-), actually unless u have auto unlock function during collision(which embended in bcm in exora n preve) which comply with unece, then u can have auto lock) n even some happily mentioned how stupid prtn put passenger airbags off switch at centre console while his new ride really smart dont have that button (which actually indicator, not button in preve complying with unece regulation).

Many need to diff between ncap n applus+ idiada.
Why prtn send car for testing in idiada, not euroncap@ancap@ncap? Well, ncap dont provide crash testing facility@proving ground, they r only bodies that promote safety awareness n dont do much testing actually. So why idiada? No euroncap, so not good, how to sell product in europe? Euroncap crash test is based on unece rules which created by ece,not euroncap (4 aspects of crash test, but not setting the rules@set design safety standard@what soever)ece is nearly similar with fmvss created by nhtsa.

Why applus idiada then? Not only its a proving ground for hnt n tech services, Idiada issues official cert according to ec directives n ece rules(so,if want to be eligible to sell car in europe,u need this cert).

Idiada not only OFFICIALLY accredited for europe standards@unece, but also for TRIAS standard(japan), ADR standard (australia), GS-SASO standard (gulf countries). So,idiada also issue cert for those who seek to sell their cars in japan, australia n gulf countries besides europe.

For america, nhtsa on fmvss rules its nearly same as other standards mentioned above. All the rules covers crashtest, design, materials, emmision, safety, electronics part n intergration n many more.

So, what is ncap then? Just google :-).

Now u see how easier sales person if want to con consumer, especially by using ncap names.

With so many rules of design, materials, electronics, emmision, crashworthiness(as i mentioned more than 15 crashtest need to be done to comply to all the rules) n etc. Maybe :-), one way to get high marks in ncap, just focus on the 3@4 sets of crash test, n just comply with minimum requirements with others.

Dunno about others, but for prtn, targets for all sets of crash test is atleast 30% more than minimum requirements, some parts are exceed 30% more than standards which starting with savvy onwards. N its really hard to do that with all the rules need to comply and limited cash to spend to crash the prototypes.

By the way, im not saying this to u guys, just my empty rant, just wondering those malaysians who really forgiveful towards other brands, just keep silent n etc.

Same as dct slugishness, only those who own it dare admit that dct is sluggish at low speed, n do complain, but others just accept it with full heart, not only that, never seen that slugishness as weakness, but strength. But when prtn equip clutch cvt behave the same, it become safety issues...herm, but luckily clutch cvt is flexible, so, still can be improve, even within 1 year, but dct already been long enough, but the character still persist.

Sorry n sorry again ranting on unrelated topic in this thread. Gdnite.

For those who is still considering to own a Preve ...
My SA confirmed (setapak branch) that there is a memo offer 2k discount or 3 year services pack for All variants of Preve ( last time only for Premium version)
Meanwhile i will meet another SA later to check the accuracy of the offer he made ( 5500 discount for premium version ) will updates with u guys again once confirm ...

I realised that we cant really compare diff car in diff brand with diff spec But with the same price range as the comparison will never end. Every car is unique , you cant get 1 which is superior in all aspects, therefore you must know what you are looking for.

For instances i have choosen preve , thus i might as well look into its pro & cons and study the cons thoruoghly to see whether i can accept it or not.take it or leave it . Rather than compare preve with almera , worst is when you find out that some1 give u better offer for vios or forte which will then add in another 2 option to your list. All of them are good in diff aspect, some is performance , some is design, some is fc , resale value etc ... Damn it's going to blow my head off

Anyway this is my finding, FC for Preve averagely is 410km per 50 litre (most of the time in town- base on 16 data i get from prevoc forum , user with less than 5k mileage). 200 km less as compare to kenari which can go for 350km with 26litre ron 95 petrol. I travel about 1200 km per month which means Preve will cost me additional fuel charge of 57.2 litre which is around RM 100 per month maximum (146.34litre for preve to travel 1200 km - 89.14litre for kenari). I believe this figure can be improved since there are lot previans can travel more than 410km per 50 litres

If not mistaken preve executive can save more on fc , assume that driving skill (0-80km/h) and driving condition (90% city area which is jam for 1 hour to work 1.5 hour from work) is the same . isnt it ?

hey. im scared to update the ecu. im afraid it will bring down the top speed. low end might get powerful but top end will loose. what about mid end where we usually deal with? is it good or the car heavier to move in mid end?

anyone already flash can confirm?

This post has been edited by sp3d2: Nov 24 2012, 11:19 AM

I know what you mean.
Don't know if I should say this is the "impression" that the old Proton's image being carried on till today? Especially those who never really own a Proton.
I personally being impressed by improvement Proton did when I look at the Persona, booked the car on the spot.

One more thing I can feel is, I can see there are quite a lot of "first car owner" who bought the Preve, I personally don't see this a good thing... Some people simply thought they are buying a smart phone, almost zero tolerate to minor flaws as they never own other car, thought that other cars are perfect. Some even thought there's a problem but actually not, such as fan continue spinning after engine off etc... (can I say power window "gluk gluk" is not a problem?)

I start driving 20+ years ago (not revealing my age ), I've seen/heard/experienced even worst problems, so I almost see Preve's problem really not serious, at least safety not compromised. If it related to brake, engine and driving etc... I will of course go SC immediately.

If really want me to complain, then I would say, the service centre. The uninformed staffs, the "don't care" attitude etc... that really could pissed off customers that trying to give Proton a chance to show it's improvements.



By mid end do you mean from 50km/h to 110km/h? The power is there waiting to be unleashed. Never tried those 150km/h to 200km/h though...

Yes, now proton really need to improve on service. Some are even lazy to rectify problems from preve owner.

I do think new mapping above 150km/h, the old mapping was better in this.
0 to 130km/h, new mapping shine

Again, new mapping is to solve several issues too beside just the low end power.
There's also possible solution for overcrank, etc.

+1

just finish my 1st servis, antirust silver, less than 45minutes complete , Rm155.95 (using semi oil)

I own saga (2nd batch, 8 valve, not the first batch Orion engine which overheat), saga megavalve (12 valves), Iswara, Wira(only drive for short period), Waja (1st batch, the worst nightmare on PW and Door Handle) and now Preve..

PREVE consider the best among all of them and the improvement beyond my expectation

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Added on November 24, 2012, 1:07 pmJust done my 1st servis, your driving condition almost same as mine, I can tell you, my Myvi 1.3 premium previously was almost same FC with my Preve now..

For those who want to travel at high speed more than 180km/h , accident do happen and fatality increases as speed increases, just for the sake of testing the max speed, please take care and remember your love ones..

This post has been edited by ryuken74: Nov 24 2012, 01:14 PM

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Added on November 24, 2012, 1:07 pm
Just done my 1st servis, your driving condition almost same as mine, I can tell you, my Myvi 1.3 premium previously was almost same FC with my Preve now..

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oO my friend told me his my vii 1.3 manual can go 350km , anyway i have place my booking for preve , anticipating for the date to bring her home haha ... Hopefully before xmas : )

mine is myvi auto, almost same FC as my Preve (only 2cents diff per km.. ), mine can go 400km if condition good, one bar around 50km..good for you, Preve is a good car, take care and enjoy ..

This post has been edited by ryuken74: Nov 24 2012, 01:18 PM

yes... same to my preve exec.... just finish my 10k service at EON Sg Pinang...

i go eon sg pinang about 4-5times already but didn't have chance to encounter any preve owners.

after remap new ecu/tcu if not good for me...can told sc to remap back the old 1?

Still need help on this.

Just now running top speed at 160km/h at MEX highway...i tin still can go faster but worry abt the AES

I heard that the new mapping might solve the overcrank issue too...my preve used to has overcrank (1-way-valve) problem previously, so far din facing any overcrank anymore (touchwood ).

Currently, there is no AES at MEX.