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 Proton PrevĂ© V16, I'm proven. Et vous?

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post Nov 12 2012, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 12 2012, 05:10 PM)
about the rusty part at the exhaust part, can it be done at any service centre?

sometimes really frus when customers are waiting and see all technicians grouping together and do nothing..especially if it is just the normal service..

just now drove from south back to KL, the stupid AES camera keep flashing eventhough the cars are travelling within speed limit..not sure I kena flash or not, but i definitely was looking at the speedometer, travelling less than 90km/h ..  sweat.gif
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You can do any service centre, for the rusty parts
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 12 2012, 04:00 PM)
grats on the new thread, btw the new ECU/TCU got reduce some CVT whine and drone sound?
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CVT whine sound is the gearbox design, nothing can be done unless you add sound insulation to the gearbox itself.
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post Nov 13 2012, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Nov 13 2012, 01:07 AM)
Man, this preve is really a rusty car. Rust everywhere. Park at open space at morning. A short rain at noon. Get car at evening and found rust on all discbrakes! Inspect a viva that parked besides and found no trace of rust on its discbrakes. Makes me wonder what material being used for discbrake since it became rusty almost instantaneously after being sprinkled with water. Of course a short drive wipes it away but it gets back fast too whenever downpour happens. I thought preve use high performance brake like those of brembo ceramic, no? Ceramic wont rust aint it?

Apart from the known rusty exhaust holder, I saw rust too at many other parts especially those linkage that are in black paint. At least the rusty exhaust holder issue is absence in other cars like unser. Kinda worried how long can this global car last..
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Your comments are valuable and should be shared with all members here.

Do you know the material of disc brakes make of? Is it ceramic?
It isn't ceramic, it usually made of grey iron. It is prone to corrosion, or in your term - RUST.
Have a good read over here for your own knowledge, you will benefit from it.

Rust will take time to form, so how long was the Viva you inspected have exposed to wet condition as compared to the Preve? You have no idea don't you?
Will the Viva disc brake rust?

Again, you think that Preve use high performance brakes? Seriously what make you think so that a normal sedan use high performance parts and sell at reasonable price?
VW Golf TSI uses brembo disc brake? Just wonder.

Rusty exhaust holder is a known issue and Proton has addressed to all dealers to provide measurement to overcome this matter.
I have seen Unser where the rust issue was horrible, the whole floor panel rust and it isn't just one unit. Seriously Unser that reliable to you? It was mean to be a goods carrier but Malaysians treated it as a MPV.


Oh ya, for your information where I obtained from Brembo brakes website, their disc brakes are made of high carbon iron. Iron with high carbon content usually are higher in tensile strength compared to iron with low carbon content, FYI.



Anyway, thanks for dropping by and amuse us. You did a great job.

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post Nov 13 2012, 02:05 AM

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Reverse camera can be installed for less than RM200, if you know where to find.
Leather seats? No comment.

FC? It think it will be too soon to discuss about that now, most of the owners flashed to latest ECU/TCU previous week, it will take sometime for the gearbox to re-learn the driving pattern, in few weeks time u shall see more info in this.
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arthur88, it was a night before public holiday, else I won't be bother to reply him.

Again, I'm not feeding the troll, just give him some explanation. If this fella still come back with more ridiculous reply, he will just show how naive he is. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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5000? take it.
Proton gives RM2k, I dun remember margin is more than 3k, they almost earn zero even after add in the handling fee.

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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 07:00 PM)
He said he don't bother the margin. He just want to achieve his sale target, 20 units per month. Coz the incentives are more worth..
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If that the case, take the car then. wink.gif

Somehow, not many dealers than I know that doing below 20 units per month.
He certainly is desperate.

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 13 2012, 11:11 PM)
cannot la, potong bad, 1 star only. Safety not good, quality not good. Dugong better  rclxms.gif 5 star ANCAP, no need air bag also won't die.
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Totally agreed with you. Preve CFE especially is a lousy car, the turbochargers hardly work. It just for cosmetic purpose, actually CFE power output is just the same as IAFM+ variant.
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Nov 14 2012, 11:10 PM)
anyone know if its possible to re-wire the LED in the headlights to be actual DAYTIME running lights instead of only switching on with the main lights?
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There are people who have done that. Tap the LED wire to any components that gonna run once the engine ignites.
Eg aircond compressor.
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 15 2012, 06:08 PM)
so far, nothing bad happen yet...in future, hopefully no...


Added on November 15, 2012, 6:10 pmjust now i let my sister drive my car again...this time her feedback is...wah...i duno how come i can drive the speed up to 80km/h....so fast achieve 80km/h...next time i wan drive again...

hearing her feedback proves new ecu/tcu improves alot...
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Had a trip to Sauk - Kuala Kangsar few hours ago for a dinner.
Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h....

Very much unlike what I had with the OLD ecu.
Hopefully its because of new ECU/TCU still learning my driving habit coz this is my first trip with more than 110km/h after the ECU/TCU mapping
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 16 2012, 12:02 AM)
I wanted to update this saturday. Need to see more feedback then can go le.
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You should go. The feedback is good.
Perhaps TCU/ECU need to time to relearn everything.....
I'm still getting pretty bad FC....but pickup is much better than before.

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 07:22 AM)
assume its because the new tcu is still learning ur driving style gua...
but mine (with firestorm), the pickup and rpm stable only...

never drive without firestorm for long period except 30-40 minutes after applying new tcu/ecu last friday...

i did try top speed on tuesday, nothing to do that night, then got one of my fren ajak me go lepak2, then i ajak him go try top speed from juru toll to taiping utara...
0-160 no problem at all...seems like it only takes 10-15 seconds to reach 160....but to reach 200 from 185, abit hard, some more traffic...but i manage to get 190 though...


Added on November 16, 2012, 7:23 am
what is ur current fc?
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Pickup and RPM stable are stable, but not the top end performance. I never feel struggle to accelerate a Preve from 110km/h to 150km/h, and that's on a flat surface.


FC equally bad still.
13l/100km for city driving.

Still too early to judge the ECU/TCU mapping performance, its not even first tank after the remap, as I dun trust the average fuel consumption on the SID, will only use fuelly stat.
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:36 AM)
saja tak mau jadi TS.... tongue.gif  cool2.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

in my opinion, SA wont know anything/any update unless the technican told them...cause those SA not involve in repairing cars...
when i goto eon sungai pinang, those technicians seems like they know what i want to do there ady...
probably famous among them that "this fat guy always know about the internal buletin that havent release out to customer yet"
this i have to thank allen... rclxm9.gif
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Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.


For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h



Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.

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edwans, low speed sluggish is normal. DSG/Wet Clutch CVT, common issues. You are not alone.

Its a heavy car, perhaps after 5000km service, things will get better. I'm getting 13l/100km for full city driving.....
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 16 2012, 11:26 PM)
Your full city include hills? Mine with old ecu/tcu travels hill everyday with 11.7L/100km. Not sure after ecu/tcu update.

Any moderators who can check my membership registration in prevoc email? can't waited to be official member  rclxms.gif
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My mileage still very low, around 4k.
Hills? not really. Involves all sort of short distance travel, hardly a trip more than 5km.
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metaled and ben3003,

Please refer to this guide below.

Preve Engine Mounting Mod

Credit to Lim Eu Bian for preparing the slides.
This mount can be done to many cars, as long as you can slip the fuel inside in between the gap. thumbup.gif



Do check Prevoc.Org and Prevoc Facebook Group for the latest updates.

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post Nov 18 2012, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Nov 17 2012, 11:55 PM)
so does this ecu update is officially announced by proton edar? and can it be done at any proton edar service centre? im from melaka and has anyone hear update their ecu here?
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Melaka

26. Melaka Service Centre (Proton Edar)

27. Edaran One Step (Proton Edar)

28. Dynamic Lure Service Centre (Proton Edar)

29. EON Melaka


Do google for the address and phone number, all the best bro in making an appointment for new ECU/TCU/Radio mapping
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Nov 18 2012, 09:08 AM)
Does Proton engineer database have info on getting Preve going up Genting during bad jam conditions?
ANS: No Peve can go up to Genting under this condiotns?
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Read the first post of this thread. It's possible to go up genting even under drastic condition.

Just have to know when to engage or not to engage any gears. Common for most cvt gearbox, not just preve
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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 AM)
just experience a serious road accident today. that why cannot get asleep now.

my 5-years-old proton saga crash very terribly front and back - it is a multiple car accident, and i am 1st car in middle, lorry hit me. gear also jam and faulty. lucky enough i am still safe in a proton saga (iswara), just some minor injuries. so even after all the repair, i think the car will give me many many problem.

so, may be it is time to get a new car, and proton preve is my first choice.

could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?
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What insurance of your car with?

If the damage is very serious, might well move the car into any nearby Proton Edar body & paint centre for repair, perhaps can ask for total lost.
As you mentioned the damage was terrible.

A simple 4 angle photos, I will be able to suggest you whether the car can total lost or not.
5-year-old Saga, I assume is LMST version?
BLM only available at year 2008 if I remember.
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Which insurance company you with?

To me, just a normal accident though. Market value 12k.
If send to Proton Edar for repair, might get all original parts equip with.

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