there is a problem in terms of sustainabilities as well .. yes, crop oils are greener than the current oil but to produce the amount of oil that we need, the amount of deforestation would be crazy (and with deforestation comes increased CO2 again..)

(just sth i read in science mag lately)

That's not the main concern, if everyone is eager to plant crops for fuel, then no many would be of interest in planting for food or sugar. Thus price for both would spike high due to high demand.

Good day guys.

Since this is an oil n gas career thread,

I was wondering if any one of you is in the line of selling Petronas (or petronas specced) D2 Diesel, for export. I need in the vicinity of 300,000 metric tonnes per month, for one year. CIF to Rotterdam.

If any of you guys are in this line, please do shoot me a PM.

Attitude makes all difference. Everything starts from the heart.

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Added on November 9, 2009, 8:31 amIn fact, I'm pretty terrified by the soon running out petroleum.
I'm 19, now doing Petroleum Engineering(Bachelor's Degree) in UTM, 1st year only.
I would graduate by year 2013. Petroleum would totally run out by year 2011?! =____=

Drilling engineer, reservoir engineer, production engineer, etc, I don't know which is better..

$$$$$$ is initially my greatest motivation. However, my mind changes as I grow.
I don't mind end up as a lecturer. It's kinda fun to teach. If no petro, the course will be down.
Petroleum engineering lecturer will be no longer needed. I become... jobless??? O.O!!

Well, I start losing faith... I need some hope!

This post has been edited by :+:[J]erR[y]:+:: Nov 9 2009, 08:31 AM

U r thinking too much. If the petrol runs out, the whole world will be in crisis (finance, food, transport, everything), not just oil industry. And like we said, there're still the deepwater solution to explore, so there's still "hope". If there's really no more petroleum here, u can apply to go to middle east, lol.

This post has been edited by LeechFever: Nov 9 2009, 09:56 AM

Yes it's true. I myself am directly in the O&G business recently, although I grw up in the Oil Town but moved back to KL after I finished school etc. Tried to avoid getting into the O&G line but in the end also got pulled back in. Overall, I would have to say its about the attitude of the person, the willingness to learn, the willingness to be independant and the drive of the person that make him/her valuable to a company and then only you start raking in the dollars. Overall, My direct exp in O&G started just a few years ago, decided to take a paycut from my previous profession and only after 1 yr of earning only 2k a month, (9 months to be exact) I got offered a 5 figure income and a mgmt position. Took it and enjoyed every moment of it. Now currently on another project with slightly lower income but less working hours although the income can be increased if i have to go offshore but try not to lor. Its not about the money now, its about what I can do from here. Remember just a single drop will create a ripple that spans till the edge of the lake.

SO please gather your experience, then judge yourself how uch you think you are worth. I believe one cannot demand until one is retired and the industry knows you well enough. Or maybe I'm just lucky to have come from a line of O&G family. who knows. I am my own man I make my own waves. And trust me the more ppl hate me the more I know i'm doing my job. I step on people's feet to wake them up. hehehe

who the hell told you that petroleum totally runout in 2011? thats not true my friend!

Hey there. Im selling Petronas HSD2, up to 300mt per month. But we only do FOB

you forgot the situation in O&G.
You got upstream & down stream.

Basically, the oil isnt running out. Its harder to get as you require deep sea exploration & construction of well.Thus the cost getting more expensive.

the shift of the world from gasoline to electricity will take some time, before we will see the full version of Ferrari without gasoline.

You in bcos of money, but do remember.. petroleum engineer do have a future. Especially in the oil exploration & manipulation of the oil input.
You got oil shale, oil rock etc around, just how to make it efficient as typical crude oil...

Haha don't worry have future for us pet. engineers. I'm abt to finish my 2nd year now.
My advise be active in SPE, UTM in my opinion have a SPE student chapter just get involved there and if your chapter is really active in recruiting industrial guest speakers then i suggest you attend in order to get an insight into the industry. I learned a lot from these guest speakers who give you tips and also what the industry is currently facing now and also in the future, and also free BBQs all year round.
As you come across a lot of professionals in the o&g industry you might heard how connection and networking is an important aspect of the industry so yes start networking asap.
Btw carbon sequestration and geothermal industry also need petroleum engineers, so don't worry!
Oil finished still have gas(huge potential). And also oil shale and oil sand are huge prospect for the industry they might be exploited better in the future as technologies improves as was the case when people doubted about offshore exploration potential but now it's an important source for hydrocarbons.
Basically this is what i gather from my seniors:
Drilling - Mechanical Engineers(usually)
Reservoir -Petroleum Engineers(mostly)
Production - Chemical Engineers.(usually)

But you can still go for drilling and production, no problem with that, is just that we mainly concentrate on reservoir and production and briefly in drilling. If you still can't decide then apply for graduate position(duration 3-5 years) mostly offered by big o&g companies, very competitive selection process and also you can gain experience in each 3 streams and by then you can opt to choose which one you enjoy the most. If you want to work in office then go for reservoir engineering, money is really good and close to civilization but you have to have a good and comprehensive insight in geology and thermo-fluids in order to do reservoir fluids modeling, and you will be working closely with the geologists. Btw another problem that many graduates and undergrads faced is which part of the upstream business to go with mainly operator or service companies. Anyway have fun! Probably as you go deeper into the program you will start to enjoy the course as i am currently too.

Wow! Thank you a lot for all the replies!

I am joining SPE-UTM student chapter but I yet be able to enter the administration.
Well, I think as I learn more I will be able to make the choice on my own!
I do see the "hope"! I'm just obsessed with the rumour recently!

Where can I find a listing of all oil and gas companies operating in Labuan? I tried searching online but can hardly find any. Only know Baker Hughes, Halliburton, Slb and Shell operate from there.

Petronas also got one there.. Sabah Operation..

yes, very true...

different qualification has different career ladder to climb, junior to senior technician/engineer etc

however, if u perform very well, despite ur qualification, u will be switch to other scheme ...and company will provide u the training/qualification, to be qualified as manager/ superintendent etc

does anybody knows the allowance rate for offshore workers? hehe...jus wud like to know. i know its a bit P&C to talk abt wages n stuffs...but jus wud like to know.hehe

Depending on company and position u are working. Lowest to highest I heard is between RM50 to RM200 per day (could be higher for higher rankers)

anyone with experience offshore here pls tell me this,

i heard petronas rig, no phones allowed.

shell rig, phones ok as long as u dont use it.

true? so can i bring an iphone there to use it as camera?

btw camera can bring ok?

No. u need hotwork permit. And they strictly forbid camera without authorization. No phones (normally only shell/petronas staffs allowed with given access internet card, and outsiders can call back via permission via designated phone) and picture taking is to avoid possible shutdown due to flashes via sensors, planned terrorism and confidential info leak. I advice u not to use camera as it may lead to blacklist and company image tarnished as they take this safety issue very seriously. Check with ur 'experience' supervisor for more detail.

This post has been edited by LeechFever: Nov 13 2009, 07:13 PM

Ya thanks for the reply. Thats what I thought. They are very strict about camera and phones. But when some dude told me that I can bring my phone on Shell rigs, i was like wtf?

You can, but like you can make any call out anyway....