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december88
post May 3 2008, 01:38 PM

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hey guys i'm just wondering, do o&g companies offer internship or summer job(during academic break) for 1st year students?Currently i'm doing petroleum engineering. I want to build my career portfolio and also to experiences life on the rig. Actually a management guy did offer me and my friends summer jobs in Aussie, just wondering would it be better if i finish my 2nd year or is it better to start early?

christine85, thanks for your posting in this topic, really appreciate your feed-back and opinion.




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post May 4 2008, 07:29 AM

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hi there, first of all, welcome, its my pleasure to share my experience and opinions. Bout the internship, i would advice u to go for it. Actually last time when i was shell there's a intern from holland who actually did the internship twice in Malaysia here. i dunno why, but i think its because her dad is in shell, and she could gain more experience and try new things in different department to reveal her interest in oil and gas industry. Today, u're given a chance to start it early, so, i think it will be good for u to try it out. I mean, u can also have it for the second time if u like it after u experience it for the first time. frankly it will be a good thing to be written in ur resume because at least it reflect that u're a kind of person who likes to learn new things. Trust me, though i havent start to work, i believe tat nobody wan to involve in technical thing for the rest of their life. perhaps after 10 or 20 years, many ppl would like to switch to the management side which is less tedious and could earn even more money. Also, u could get a picture for urself of which line tat would make u interested in more. Believe me, ppl with more experience is always more precious than book worm because it could make u look further into the future and ideas given by experienced ppl is always more concrete and useful as well. So, my advice it, start to involve in the society earlier, get the experience, and never stop learning. all da best! laugh.gif
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ok thanks for the advice, i guess i have to stay back in aussie during the summer. Shell Malaysia is really an aggressive employer in a sense they hire the best, my prof. told me the top student last year was employed by shell sarawak with generous pay-check, accomodation paid for and also not to mention business class return trip back home. anyway all the best to you too, i hope you will continue to give info to those who wants to venture in the oil industry, and thanks for the advice. notworthy.gif

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post May 23 2008, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(mikhail @ May 22 2008, 05:25 PM)
Christine, i'm office based too, Production Engineer. btw, never mentioned that you'd be at SLB the whole of your working life, just saying that you will get jaded working here.

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hey can you tell me what you do as a production engineer, do you work on site or office? Can you work offshore? What major did you do( mechanical, chemical , etc?). I have heard abt drilling and reservoir engineers so far, thinking about going into production. And is it true for petroleum engineering grads that most of them branch out in reservoir? Coz my senior told me that drilling will go to mechanical/mining engineers, and production to chemical engineers. Thanks.

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post May 23 2008, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(mikhail @ May 23 2008, 10:21 AM)

Hahahhahha! Panjangnya! Macam takde kerja! tongue.gif Anyway, hope that answers your question! smile.gif
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wow, that was a good summary rclxms.gif . ok thx alot man. probably i will venture out in drilling or reservoir now.

QUOTE(mikhail @ May 23 2008, 11:00 AM)


Side note: Another reason why I didn't take the field job is because of the attrition rate for FEs in SLB. 70% of FEs and FSs quit / fired within the first 3 years. Needed something a little more stable, although turning your back on 4.8k USD a month was pretty tough! Plus, rotation at the time was 8-2, 8 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Working 56 days in a row, 18 hour days is not something that I want to do! LOL! Now of course, its much easier, last I heard was 6-3 or 6-4, not so sure.
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5k USD man ....... but the working hours are crazy 18 hours perday ....... and 8-2 man that sucks, i prefer 4-4.
Anyway thx man for the industry insight really appreciate your time and effort in this. Cheers man.
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post Aug 15 2008, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(bebee @ Aug 15 2008, 11:13 AM)
i wonder what 2 company would it be
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oil and gas?
lolz.
yeah plz state clearly, alot of oil&gas companies out there.

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post Aug 27 2008, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(reign226 @ Aug 27 2008, 10:28 AM)
I'm going to be looking for industrial training in Australia, specifically Melbourne. I'm not sure if Australia has an OnG industry, but does anybody know if they have OnG companies operating out of Melbourne? I know its a long shot but I have tried googling to no avail.
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Australia does HAVE a o&g industry and trust me it's bigger than in malaysia!
A lot of o&g companies here albeit super small than those supermajor.
basically most of the major are here having their own project or joint-ventures with local smaller/independent companies, i know exxonmobil is active in melbourne especially in the Gippsland Basin off the coast of Victoria. Most of the onshore jobs which is remote are in the Eromanga-Basin(borders btw Queensland,Victoria and South Australia).
Most of the service companies are here too, Halliburton, Baker, Schlumberger, Ensign and etc.
Companies that i know with Aussie background:
Stuart Petroleum - super small company.
Santos- quite a big company by aussie standard definitely the top 3 local o&g company in aussie.
Beach Petroleum
Woodside Petroleum
and further more info go link down here:
http://www.subsea.org/company/allbyregion....egion=Australia

Why not just go for your industrial training on other states??
i've an offer to go for drilling experiences with Ensign in the middle of no where (outbacks)

I know santos also have industrial training for 3rd and final year students.

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post Sep 12 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Sep 12 2008, 04:25 PM)
well, from the guy i usually work with who has that title, they work primarily with the formation pressure testers SLB has e.g. wireline MDT/FPWD (a.k.a StethoScope). Mainly interpretation of the test results, sometimes barosteering, etc.

if it's the same group interview i did couple of years ago, it should be some group exercise. Just show you're a team player - speak up, back up your ideas or ideas you support, etc.
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what's the scope of this job?(reservoir engineer), is it true you will stay/work in the office, modeling with the computers. Any chance of working offshore? I'm asking since my degree is closely related to this thing.
backspace66 u graduate with what degree? (mechanical,petroleum or chemical or something else?)
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post Sep 12 2008, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Sep 12 2008, 04:51 PM)
this one only slb (early in your career), in operator companies you're the one who decides how much oil/gas is in the field. maybe visits offshore, but definitely not offshore for long. office type. good pay though.
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thanks for the prompt reply zeusu, still undecided abt this, i'm doing petroleum engineering but my course specialize only on reservoir, as far as i know, petroleum engineers can branch out into 3 main paths ,which are reservoir,production and drilling. Is it true that the majority of the drilling engineers are mechanical grads while production are chemical grads? And how abt production for offshore job? I'm leaning more into production and drilling, reservoir is not really that exciting although i can have a stable life.

QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 12 2008, 04:58 PM)
@december88
i did petroleum engineering.

zeusu,thanks for the reply.May i know whether they do reservoir simulation?or just primarily concentrating on reservoir formation pressure using MDT,RFT....etc..?
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Hey good luck for the interview, maybe you will be my boss one day ( who knows).
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post Sep 14 2008, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(ooi_jy @ Sep 14 2008, 03:40 AM)
Are graduates frm Uni Petronas, easier to enter Petronas , right??
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I think it really depends on your results and also some feedbacks from your lecturers on you.

Consider this, even a scholar which is sponsored by petronas to study overseas does not have a guarantee to work in petronas even though they're sponsored by them, it depends on the interview and also either you can even get an interview based on your results in the 1st place.

kslee79, i heard now also the ME countries wanna ditch US dollar since it's not that strong and go with the euro but somehow US managed to exerts its political power over them since if the US dollar is not the currency of the oil industry then the US dollar will be quite useless compare to the euro.
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post Sep 23 2008, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(kslee79 @ Sep 23 2008, 08:57 AM)
Guys, take a look or visit them: http://www.petrominwork.com
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Oh, my school forward this website earlier this year.
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Career opportunities for Malaysian students AEI Newsletter, 
> Wednesday, 26 March 2008
> Petrominwork, a provider of comprehensive recruitment solutions for 
> the Oil and Gas, Mining and Petrochemical industries in the Asia 
> Pacific region, has immediate vacancies with leading multi national 
> companies for graduates looking to start a career in Oil and Gas 
> through The Graduate Initiative program (TGI).
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> TGI is a specially developed program to help Malaysians studying 
> overseas build a career in the Oil and Gas industry.  TGI offers 
> professional counselling and technical training, competitive job 
> placements with competitive salaries and long term career development.



But most of the jobs there asking for people with experiences.


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post Nov 13 2008, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(balz @ Nov 11 2008, 10:50 AM)
to enter o&g filed
wic engineering field shdu i choose??
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mechanical,chemical,petroleum, even geology also recommended.

QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Nov 11 2008, 12:54 PM)
is it true that oil and gas career prefer males than females?what needs to be done and need to be improved in order for a female to succeed in O&G field?

asking on behalf of my gf. she's taking degree in chemical engineering and is nearing graduation so she starts to worry about her career.
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Yes slightly depends on the nature of the job, since o&g has a lot of scope s(downstream and upstream), the most challenging would be the upstream since that is where you get the oil pump up.



QUOTE(exploited @ Nov 12 2008, 06:03 PM)
can somebody explain here why in the down of world economic, oil price

should take high but ironically the oil price continuous decrease...
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World Recession= Less demand for crude.
Unless OPEC is crazy enough to cut quota in order to balance their fiscal, and bring down the world's economy with it, which i think they will.


QUOTE(hajime86 @ Nov 12 2008, 10:35 PM)
hie all seniors and friends, i'm new here so please go easy on me hehe

mind i ask a quick response from the knowledgable seniors here?

i'm a final year students, and i currently got an offer of internship in Perth, Australia, which requires me to depart from Mas this 26 November... till 25 December, a month internship. the company is Down Under GeoSolutions
http://www.dugeo.com

so may i ask, what kind of company is this? and i've been to their site, which i'm not too sure what i'm reading there... sad.gif
the manager called me today and i only got time till tmr morning to fax my offer letter and final decision. thanks a lot.

P.S oh, they did mention that i'm gonna get job employment offer as well after the internship... izzit good choice?
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Hmmm, they will only offer you the job if you're an Aussie PR or citizen. If you're then i guess it could be true.

QUOTE(qhaireelz @ Nov 12 2008, 10:36 PM)
wanna ask, does physics graduate have job oppurtunity in O&G? i'm really2 interested in O&G field
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YES you do, if you specialize in geo-physics, my physic's professor is earning $$$ doing consultancy for oil companies.
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post Dec 8 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 8 2008, 09:27 PM)
Guys, may I ask a question?
as petroleum is depleting, will there still be jobs available for petroleum geologists? (and PE too).
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If you're worried then i suggest you take geologist course as a general degree, then you can still work in o&g and also the mining industries. of course you can take petroleum geoscience, almost 2/3 of the course is geology based with 1/3 dealing with the petroleum side.
even if petroleum depletes, other opportunities exists for petroleum engineers such as the geothermal industry(renewables) and carbon sequestration both of which have a great future ahead when petroleum is no longer needed.
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QUOTE(poilam @ Jan 11 2009, 02:36 AM)
which university do you think is their own target University ? mind to share with us ?

what do you all think about UMS (Sabah U )chemical engineering ?


Added on January 11, 2009, 2:39 am
i'm also interested to undergo internship in chevron (caltex) , can i know what is ur CGPA ? how long is ur MONASH internship ? did u ever meet chemical engineeirng students from local public university ?

and normally what do they take in consideration when receive internship ?
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How to know if you university is a target? I don't know about unis in Malaysia but they should have an event called "Career Week", where all the companies headhunt future graduate, so make time for Career Week to scout around and ask them what it takes to be in their company, btw Schlumberger give a lot of nice freebies during Career Week.

Regarding Internship i would say most of the factors would be your CGPA and also your curriculum activities in uni.




QUOTE(balz @ Jan 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
mechanical engineers r chemical engineers..who have better oppturnity 2 enter o&g??
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Both have good prospect, most mech eng go to the drilling side while chemical eng goes for the production side.


QUOTE(vincentngws @ Jan 11 2009, 07:52 PM)
u got to have visa to work there.. as i know saudi is a tax free country.. i am jus wondering how much can i save per month over there.. is it worth going?
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Ask yourself IF you can cope in a rather foreign country, Saudi is SERIOUSLY a different country.

QUOTE(farid_cool @ Jan 11 2009, 10:31 PM)
ada tak kes orang yang berkelulusan agak rendah diterima bekerja dalam industri ini?
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YES, during industrial lecture a guy who didn't even finished high school work from the bottom to become manager of a drilling rig, but is pure tough work to be honest.

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Feb 25 2009, 10:43 PM)
seems like this industry have very good job prospect.. but i wonder any college offer degree in oil and gas course?
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UCSI also has a degree in petroleum engineering, just started last year.

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QUOTE(Michael4711 @ Mar 1 2009, 02:16 PM)
hi guys, are most of the O&G companies from KL? what should i say to the interviewer that i intend to work offshore?
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Just ask if there's any opportunity to work offshore with the job that you're applying for? Is that simple.
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QUOTE(depster666 @ Mar 2 2009, 02:28 AM)
yep, yep... 2 deepwater fields in malaysia are under development/construction rite now... and lotsa subsea well clusters..
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Yeah but the Mega projects are in Brazil for deepwater, Tupi oilfield is among the largest field discovered in 30 years and it's a deep water reservoir.
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QUOTE(yewjhin @ Mar 11 2009, 10:06 AM)
I suppose Subsea Engineers perform PVT analysis, tie-ins as well? Or is that a separate role handled by Reservoir Engineers (which branch do these Res. engineers come from anyway? Mech? Chem?)
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Usually reservoir engineers comes from petroleum engineering background, and they work in office and in-front of the computer. The software for reservoir modeling ain't cheap.
And yes reservoir engineers have to know their PVT analysis and read all those funny diagrams.
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Reservoir Engineers mostly from petroleum engineering background, but most petroleum engineers have an option to branch either to drilling,production or reservoir. Reservoir mostly deal with simulation and sit in office use computer to model reservoir behavior. Pay is good and you're based onshore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_engineering

QUOTE(anniewf87 @ May 7 2009, 04:13 PM)
yea i would say meche is the most versatile among all eng....you can basically do some civil/chem/pet jobs with meche...downside is it might be too general that you'll need further education to specialize in a specific area of interest...
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Yeah but one of the hardest too.


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QUOTE(anniewf87 @ May 7 2009, 04:51 PM)
Hmm, i thought petroleum eng is even harder...plz correct me if i'm wrong
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Well compare to mech. it's alright. Doing 2nd year undergrad now, of course you must have a strong background in physics and maths. Only hard part is the geology side of the course. But anyway i enjoy doing this degree.
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QUOTE(:+:JerRy:+: @ Jun 25 2009, 08:17 PM)
Hi all!

I'm a Chinese.
I heard a rumour saying that:
In Malaysia, the o&g field is fully dominated by Malays and Chinese hardly get a job in that field. Is that true?
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Well considering that Malay make up the bulk of the population then it is no surprise they formed a majority in the o&g industry.
IMO regardless of your race, competence and performance will always be the no.1 priority in the industry.
If you're good then good jobs are coming your way. Btw there is a serious shortage of petroleum engineers in the industry so your chances of being employed is good. Don't worry too much just try and enjoy your course.

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