Recently, SAAB conducted test series on ethanol-fueled car. Its dubbed cheap fuel, since derived from alcohol. Power wise, performs better than the normal RON 95-97 petrol-fueled car.

I have seen discovery channel. I have learn what I can about renewable energy via courses, articles and documentaries. I have seen car running from hydrogen to nuclear. Even the attempt to harness solar power and transmit them wirelessly to earth from space. Frankly it is still very far in the future for a renewable energy to actually be commercially produced. Problem with renewable energy is the low amount of energy output from them. Take hydrogen car for example. Sure, there are already hydrogen pump station for it. But considering the amount of people driving it and the power it takes to separate hydrogen and oxygen via solar power......very low. Until I see a functioning consumer plane or a cargo ship that actually runs on this clean energy, I would have my doubt on its impact on economy globally.

Hybrid is actually a simple concept that has been thought out long before. Only problem is the battery design which usually like laptop battery doesnt last long, heavy and to replace em actually consume more money that saving gas in the long run. In the end it still depends on gas to run and recharge the battery. Even a fully electric car concept is pointless if the charging source came from a petroleum power plant. Have anyone thought of the toxic effect from the battery itself if it is to be thrown?

"Biogas typically refers to a gas produced by the biological breakdown of organic matter in the absence of oxygen." So where does this organic matter came from? Shits? Food wastage? How much amount of wastage do we need to obtain sufficient enough power to power the whole world? Sure biogas is cheap now, but in the future once demand soar, price increase, source drop and in the end, pretty much the same as petrol.

Geothermal, wave, wind? I think they forgot hydro. Sure it is clean, but consider the amount of deforestation, land, wild habitat destruction and money needed respective to the amount of energy produced.

But not to say it's impossible since there is already a 'sport' car fully powered by a battery, but lets face it, it would take another half a century for renewable energy to be fully technologically utilized. Until then we still need petrol.

This post has been edited by LeechFever: Nov 3 2009, 10:46 PM

Well, actually what you said is believable. I know that most of our resource were exported due to its high quality. I can agree with you if you said Malaysia will be net importer soon, but i just doubt with 'that our oil is critically going empty' statement.

Do Oil and gas companies hire biochemist?

the statement "by 2013 Malaysia will become an oil importer country" <--is damn funny man. FYI, even now Malaysia's one of the oil importers. as well as exporter.

From ur point of view, whats te point of executing deepwater drilling now if we are going 2 b out of reserves for the next couple of years? for what its worth awarding Talisman and Carigali 2 blocks in Sabah waters last week if te oil is critically going empty? and what about gumunsut biggie field development plan?

even saudi doesnt reveal the estimated reserves that they have cause they hv to keep it on the low (they have been reporting the same number of reserves from last few years - isnt it weird?ofcos!nobody wants to tell te whole world how much oil they actually hv!).

same goes to malaysia.

cheers!

Yup, agree with u. It is obvious recovery that Vietnam offshore recently is very busy building platforms for producing oil. I'm engaged in those projects too

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Added on November 5, 2009, 2:25 pmyup, there are still a lot of potential in discovering reservoirs under deepwater area... There is breakthrough of deepwater drilling technology.
What I heard last time provided support to Kikeh DTU platform run by Murphy Oil, there would be more deepwater platform develop around Labuan offshore...
But I forgot what is the future platform name given for the coming project

This post has been edited by Stephen80: Nov 5 2009, 02:25 PM

sifus, i want to ask you about working in the fabrication yard... (mmhe, kencanca etc) a friend of mine used to work in mmhe in pasir gudang but he quit saying the job load is too high while the salary doesn't compare to it (2~3 yrs ago lah).. care to comment?
how about now what's the expected salary for yard engineers (mech background)..

can i ask a Q
if i got marketing and finance background in studying, can apply for O&G career?
thanks!

Please tell me which job has light load and pay high I would like to sign up.

dealing drugs? the ridiculous pay is because of the risk.. in O&G usually the heavy work load + risky + no life (at least not on land) is the reason for the high pay... but in the yard even though the workload and responsibility is high but the pay doesn't really compare to it (so i've been told).. so that's why i'm asking.. if you happen to find a job like you said do let me know.. but i dun believe in getting high pay for goyang telor..

Ever heard of high pay, light load but extremely high accountability? Normally a sure kick out if 1st time mistake could cost millions of loss to the company..

BTW, you can still get high pay on land...

I heard MMHE offers great amount of training. Whether it's beneficial, I'm not sure.


Esp when you drilled off course. They're still kind enough to kick you out without seeking for compensation. The rig is no playground.

about the oil importer issue, it's true...we'll be net importer in the next 5 years or less. The last time i read it was 2011...

But that doesn't mean we'll run out of oil or anything it just means the amount of oil we produce cannot meet the local demand for oil, so we have to import more than we export.

All the shallow stuff have already been found, and now we are moving on to deeper areas but these costs $$$, the deepwater projects over at Gulf of Mexico needs $70/barrel just to break even, so you can imagine how much investments that would need...

btw, looks like things might turn around by mid of next year and last i heard some service companies are starting to hire again...

ethanol is energy intensive to produce .... so it kind of comes down to the same thing ... yes ? no ?

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Added on November 7, 2009, 6:22 amif you know any job that has a light load and high pay i would also want to sign up lah

OnG pays alot because it demands alot from you (kiss your normal life goodbye)
Nothing free in this world lah, no easy money

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Added on November 7, 2009, 6:27 amive been to the kencana yard ... its hard, heavy, risky work ...

imagine like being in a gigantic construction site but instead of building houses or condos youre fabricating giganic platforms; instead of bricks and cement you use heaps of metal

my opinion ?
might as well become maintenance tech or maintenance engineer in a service company

i hear halliburton and BJ is hiring . . . .

This post has been edited by pinkdalmation: Nov 7 2009, 06:27 AM

this is what i mean...

I thought all these while, our sweet petroleum was exported out for sour petroleum? No doubt our crude oil quality is good, but based on the last TV interview with Hassan Merican, he claims we produce more diesel than petrol. Which is why we're getting gasoline from other nation to cope the current demand correct me if I'm wrong.

This is true. But here's the thing. Oil will still play a major role in producing energy. Even if the deepwater projects gonna cost a bomb, people will still demand for it regardless. It's basically an essential commodities. Heck when oil break >$100 per barrel mark, people still paying for it albeit the lower usage to save cost. As world population grows so is gas consumption, so I don't think they would worry about the profit generated if they ever need to dig into deeper water in the near future. In the end, expensive or not, surely they will be forced to explore deepwater alternative sooner or later.

Sour=more sulphur
sweet=less sulphur so happen our oil Tapis is among the best in the world in terms of low sulphur content which is also easy to refine as fuel.
We export to other countries since they have tougher and tighter fuel and environmental regulations especially for diesel.


Deep water exploration is a promising future and it is possible just look at Brazil, they made numerous discoveries this past years and more investment is coming, i would not be surprised if Brazil will be an important oil exporting country soon.
In 1960s nobody believe offshore exploration and production was feasible, but now it is an important aspect of the petroleum business.
Any i always believe that we need oil now in order to get and obtain renewable energies in the future, just as we used coal to power the industrial age.
Just like what Ahmed Zaki Yamani (Former Saudi Oil Minister) ones said

Ethanol fuel started mas production since few years back, mainly in the states, Brazil and China. Some r using either sugar cane or corn as the raw ingredient.. however, the SAAB testing was using alcohol based ethanol. Not sure whether it wud be at the same level of energy concentration for extraction as corn or sugar cane for the fermentation and distillation processes... but it cant be lauded as cheap fuel for no reason...

This post has been edited by depster666: Nov 7 2009, 07:51 PM

You know the good thing about labelling Malaysia as net oil importer as soon as possible? That way government have an official reason to remove the oil remedy even further.

I believe there's still alot of oil in Malaysia just haven't detected or not worth the investment yet.

Anyway there are lots of fuel alternative but most are or will be controlled by the big oil companies which will tend to slower the alternatives in order to milk as much oil money before moving to alternative energy sources, where obviously they will start milking cash like they did with oil.