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post Apr 20 2013, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 20 2013, 03:05 AM)
hrm. my machines 24/7 on, no shutdown itself pun. sure not BIOS issue?

those recovery / shutdown are Windows settings. smile.gif that's more like tweak Windows for any drive rather SSD specific, no?
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frankly speaking, i don't know
perhaps it is windows settings, just like tell the window do not go into sleeping or hibernate mode
don't think has anything to do with tinkering the ssd itself

see, i just joined the ssd club days ago, and the first thing i did was read the 1st post, and just follow what i saw blush.gif
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post Apr 20 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 20 2013, 04:01 AM)
i saw your post. your problem is one thing but I'm referring to the URL in which the tweaks required to run well.

my SSD so far all don't need tweaking and run fine.
I saw the M5S but when I was shopping 2 weeks back, went for Kingston for a few reasons

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2. known brand

furthermore I had no time to research on Plextor.

now the question is - just because they're on OCer forums / anand - are their comments reliable? sometimes it's just n00b users.

both my SSD are Sandforce, no issues. I don't think Intel would go Sandforce on their SSD if it was not reliable to begin with.
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I agree with you on reading the other and all but that's the only way to know whether the M5S is either a stable SSD or a piece of dung. There're some reason why I chose M5S over the other brand like OCZ Vertex, Kingston 3k, Crucial M4 and Intel 520.

You may or may not agree, but these are my POVs.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 20 2013, 04:05 AM)
hrm. my machines 24/7 on, no shutdown itself pun. sure not BIOS issue?

those recovery / shutdown are Windows settings. smile.gif that's more like tweak Windows for any drive rather SSD specific, no?
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As for this I'm not quite sure all of the tweaks are working, As for now I din't experience any unwanted shut downs any-more, but my SSD are quite slow on terminating my programs while I want to shut-down. But no biggie. I can always click on Force Shut-down tongue.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 19 2013, 01:21 PM)
Funnily my old wifi adapter is the one that keeps DCing during its time in Win7... In Win8 with W7 drivers seems to be working fine hmm.gif
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Hmm i have not tried yet, thier stable driver and the recent beta driver also gave me the same problem, it's realy pain in the arse, right now i'm on windows 7 and facing frequent lagging problem, most of my application always hang and it took a few minutes to recover, im not sure if its a SSD problem.
I save/load large TIFF files frequently.

My w7 on Kingston HyperX, W8 on Plextor mp5. getting real tired of my sh1tty system sweat.gif
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post Apr 20 2013, 05:19 PM

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About the pricing, difference is not much I find. 120GB Intel 330 vs 120GB Kingston 120 V300 and 128GB Plextor.

During the time of my purchase, the Kingston is the one without setup kit. priced similarly to the Plextor while Intel is a bit more but with kit.

Stability wise, my Kingston V300 is on Windows 7 work rig. Intel 330 is on Windows 8 gaming rig. Till date no problem whatsoever.

Those facing problem could be just confined to particular batch perhaps.
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post Apr 20 2013, 05:22 PM

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Well the pricing are different now...everything went sky high.

That's probably the main reason why I chose Plextor. :\
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 20 2013, 05:22 PM)
Well the pricing are different now...everything went sky high.

That's probably the main reason why I chose Plextor. :\
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Really thought current pricing now seems cheaper

Used to pay Rm800 for 80gb just a year ++ ago. while now u can get a m5s 128gb for rm299??
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:05 PM)
Really thought current pricing now seems cheaper

Used to pay Rm800 for 80gb just a year ++ ago. while now u can get a m5s 128gb for rm299??
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IKR, probably due to the floods in Thailand or something. For what I know right now is that never buy new released hardwares. The hardware sellers mostly gonna slit your throat dry.
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post Apr 20 2013, 07:34 PM

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haha...flash flood affect HDD not SSD... if majority hardware enthusiast say hardware price is expensive...then how about game peripheral/accessories price... do check price history for SSD before make any shout loud..just compare to last 24 month price..sure huge drop..
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:17 PM)
IKR, probably due to the floods in Thailand or something. For what I know right now is that never buy new released hardwares. The hardware sellers mostly gonna slit your throat dry.
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Read below. No idea where u got that idea. Hardwares are actually cheaper compared to previous gen offering. On all aspect.. Cpu, mobo, ram, psu, gc, only thing unchanged is casing n fans. N hdd has returned to normal levels but externals now are cheaper than ever.

QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Apr 20 2013, 07:34 PM)
haha...flash flood affect HDD not SSD... if majority hardware enthusiast say hardware price is expensive...then how about game peripheral/accessories price... do check price history for SSD before make any shout loud..just compare to last 24 month price..sure huge drop..
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:53 PM)
Read below. No idea where u got that idea. Hardwares are actually cheaper compared to previous gen offering. On all aspect.. Cpu, mobo, ram, psu, gc,  only thing unchanged is casing n fans. N hdd has returned to normal levels but externals now are cheaper than ever.
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:/ Yeah, silly me. True, most of the 3RD GEN hardwares are indeed cheaper than the previous one, which makes me regret for deciding to build a rig on 2011.

As for the SSD price, I compared between 2012 December and 2013 April, most of the SSD price increased RM4x~8x.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:51 PM)
:/ Yeah, silly me. True, most of the 3RD GEN hardwares are indeed cheaper than the previous one, which makes me regret for deciding to build a rig on 2011.

As for the SSD price, I compared between 2012 December and 2013 April, most of the SSD price increased RM4x~8x.
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y?? it was cheaper than the gen before.

its always getting cheaper.

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post Apr 20 2013, 09:40 PM

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yeah.. please compare price per gb plus speed/i/o read write of the drive...

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:35 PM)
y?? it was cheaper than the gen before.

its always getting cheaper.
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Er...which part are you implying? That I bought the 2nd GEN Rig or the SSDs?

QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Apr 20 2013, 10:40 PM)
yeah.. please compare price per gb plus speed/i/o read write of the drive...
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Like Corsair Force 3 for instance, last year a friend of mine bought it for RM38x, but now the price increased to RM450. Which means, it cost about RM3.75/GB, the price were bloody outrageous. mad.gif
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for 128/120 gb the price are stagnant plus minus RM 50-70 for the last 12 month...look for bigger capacity u will find price are going down per gb.. plus now many SSD come with great reliability great NAND and great controller that give more value to end user.. but dun compare with enterprise standard which still expensive for individual use..

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Apr 20 2013, 11:59 PM)
for 128/120 gb the price  are stagnant plus minus RM 50-70 for the last 12 month...look for bigger capacity u will find price are going down per gb.. plus now many SSD come with great reliability great NAND and great controller that give more value to end user.. but dun compare with enterprise standard which still expensive for individual use..
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Could you define enterprise standard ? hmm.gif

Apologies for the trouble.

Edit:
Do you mean SSD for company use? blink.gif

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:52 PM)
Er...which part are you implying? That I bought the 2nd GEN Rig or the SSDs?
Like Corsair Force 3 for instance, last year a friend of mine bought it for RM38x, but now the price increased to RM450. Which means, it cost about RM3.75/GB, the price were bloody outrageous.  mad.gif
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U do know theres a few force 3 versions right.

QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 20 2013, 11:10 PM)
Could you define enterprise standard ? hmm.gif

Apologies for the trouble.

Edit:
Do you mean SSD for company use?  blink.gif
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no servers etc. not to be define as company. they require long term reliability. todays performance same as tommorows
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 21 2013, 12:23 AM)
U do know theres a few force 3 versions right.
no servers etc. not to be define as company. they require long term reliability. todays performance same as tommorows
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2 version for each capacity?

CSSD-F120GB3A
CSSD-F120GB3

For what I've heard both of them having some lifespan issue...
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 20 2013, 06:05 PM)
Really thought current pricing now seems cheaper

Used to pay Rm800 for 80gb just a year ++ ago. while now u can get a m5s 128gb for rm299??
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Q1 Q2 2012 paid RM430 for Intel 320 Series 80GB
BTW congrats for elite tag,just got mine too tongue.gif

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 21 2013, 12:59 PM)
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Q1 Q2 2012 paid RM430 for Intel 320 Series 80GB
BTW congrats for elite tag,just got mine too tongue.gif
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Never knew that the price could drop so much in a year. ohmy.gif
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