wanna ask, must use AHCI mode with SSD? IDE mode cannot? (SATA)
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The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need
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Apr 15 2013, 03:12 PM
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wanna ask, must use AHCI mode with SSD? IDE mode cannot? (SATA)
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Apr 15 2013, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM) AHCI supports TRIM and faster than IDE. thanksIDE mode : read seq. : 255,1 write seq : 91.61 read 512k : 169.3 write 512k : 91.11 read 4k : 23.80 write 4k : 64.17 AHCI mode : read seq. : 268,8 (+ 5.37%) write seq : 90,43 (-1.29%) read 512k : 205,2 (+21,20% !!!) write 512k : 90,82 (-0.32%) read 4k : 24.02 (+ 0.92%) write 4k : 66.41 (+ 3.49%) so TRIM also require AHCI mode... so sad my P35+ICH9 board no AHCI mode |
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Apr 16 2013, 04:14 AM
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Apr 18 2013, 09:35 AM
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hello everyone
just got my hands on the M5S 128gb, now selling slightly below 300 i think it's a good buy atm installed everything into it, plugged back old hdd but now storage only. feels quick, now the slowest part is the BIOS during boot up still using intel e8400 + p35 combination, so no ahci mode for now, but checked "fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify" it returns "0", which means TRIM is enabled |
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Apr 18 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 18 2013, 04:21 PM) Hello guys, i fresh install into my m5s yesterday, face same problem too soon after thatSo I've bought the Plextor M5S few days ago, the installation was fine, same goes to the OS. The speed was good as I expected as well. But there's slightly some problem which I don't know whether it's the OS or the SSD. So here's the problem: 1. I left the PC for 30 minutes, when I came back, my PC was completely shut-down without my knowing. 2. After I realized the PC was shut-down, I turned it back on, when it log in to my windows, my whole Window Start Bar froze...the Antivirus and stuff won't load up which made me forced to re-start it. After restart, the problem was gone. But I'm sure it'll be back soon. Is there anyway to fix these issues? just because i forgot to do this: The SSD Optimization Guide http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimiz...zation-guide-2/ after i did that (not all, only necessary ones), it's smooth sailing This post has been edited by ralph_d: Apr 18 2013, 04:28 PM |
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Apr 19 2013, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 18 2013, 04:40 PM) Thank you for the fast reply, up to your own preference, like enable/disable boot gui, shutdown time, etc..I'm glad that It can be fixed without RMA it...you said only the necessary one, could you define necessary one? QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2013, 12:58 AM) It's damn cheap already, but Singapore still selling it at RM350 (149SGD) don't think the price is an issue for singaporean 128GB is sweetspot imho, i bought the 256GB version but can't really utilize the space much, even installed 3 OSs on it , unless install games, now The SSD is left to collect dust until i bought a new Wifi adapter(Windows 8 serious driver problem lol) Back then the Kingston 96GB cost almost same price as the 256GB m5pro lol. disposable income for singaporean should be more than an average malaysian (at least in my mind) i am going to install windows 8 soon, what's with the serious driver problem? QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2013, 01:39 AM) ehhh, why did you have to do that? some things like enable/disable recovery, enable/disable hdd shut down after some time should be tweakedmy Intel 330 and Kingston 300 series both need not have me do anything. Just booted Windows CD and install away just like any other drive. yes, just direct install windows w/o tweaks also works one problem i face is it'll shut itself down (ssd) after some time, which should be 'tweaked' inside windows settings. QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2013, 02:34 AM) There are easier way to do that, its a software called "SSD Tweaker" lol. is it? will try that s/w l8r Yeah by default no need to tweak anything, Windows 7 will regconize SSD and optimize it right way after installing. Unless user cloned the OS from HDD to SSD, then may be tweaking is necessary. |
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Apr 19 2013, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2013, 11:48 AM) For me it's not, im malaysian working on there lol mine was tplink too, wifi adapter, plugged into pci-e on my mobo, yours too?Thats the specific wifi adapter issue, TPLINK, even the stable version of driver will cause windows 8 to reset the usb hub everytime when uploading some large file, every damn time, 100% reproducible, windows 8 has been out for 6 months already they have yet to fix the problem. if that so guess that i'll be using win7 for now |
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Apr 20 2013, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 20 2013, 03:05 AM) hrm. my machines 24/7 on, no shutdown itself pun. sure not BIOS issue? frankly speaking, i don't knowthose recovery / shutdown are Windows settings. perhaps it is windows settings, just like tell the window do not go into sleeping or hibernate mode don't think has anything to do with tinkering the ssd itself see, i just joined the ssd club days ago, and the first thing i did was read the 1st post, and just follow what i saw |
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Apr 23 2013, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 23 2013, 01:09 AM) If Crucial one is cheaper, just buy loh, performance wise Samsung SSD are faster, but also more pricey if i recall correctly. agree, no need to think so muchNormal user should always chose cheaper with larger capacity, no need to go for extreme performance, it's not like 5 or 10 second faster could change your life or something. just get the best RM/GB ones |
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Apr 24 2013, 08:31 AM
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ran as ssd benchmark last night, my ssd bottlenecked by my hardware: P35+ich9 mobo, got sata/300 only, and on ide mode
read: 230 write: 200 my ssd is plextor m5s 128gb but still faster than my hdd wd green 1tb: read:90, write:70 portable hdd: read:28, write:20 |
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Apr 24 2013, 10:07 AM
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Apr 24 2013, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 24 2013, 04:28 PM) i seei do not mean that ssd is useless with p35, or "hey no point switching to ssd because only tat much difference", i'm just trying to say it will not perform at it's max transfer speed as advertised, which of course, i know im not on sata3, which it is supposed to be on sata3 but still, booting, alt-tabbing, and all other windows operation is significantly smoother than before, this, no need benchmark s/w also can see one ssd all the way from now on (well, at least the boot drive |
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Apr 26 2013, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 26 2013, 08:30 AM) Unless you connect the drive on a SATA II port, otherwise there's no bottleneck by using the mobo you've stated...well not that I can think of. only for read speed i supposejust saw at the box of my plextor ssd, the sequential write is 200, which is exactly what i got with my sata II port |
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