get a mainstream brand wheels to be safe. i went here n there in search of xero freehub body. couldn't find any.

Xero as in xero wheels? i don't think they make hubs.. they actually partner with formula engineering to produce their hubs as far as i know...

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Added on August 9, 2012, 9:50 amthat or some warm up / heat spray...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 9 2012, 09:50 AM

that's right. back then the didn't make it known.

BUY BUY BUY~~~~~!!!

http://www.baikbike.com/one-time-offer-sil...t-only-myr9988/

1185g

And why not? I've seen pros use CAAD10.

Actually a Mavic mechanic van full of Ksyriums and Cosmic Carbones came to my friend's bike shop and let people try them out. I puasa but still rode 26 miles on these, the dehydration is worth it

My only warmup last night is riding at slow speed but high gear (leg rotating fast but speed is slow). Is that the wrong way?!

Is heat spray substitute for warm up or just reviler when the muscle suddenly cramp?

My left leg muscle abit sprained edi, today is a rest day for me

This post has been edited by minizian: Aug 9 2012, 11:18 AM

typical cinaman ma... if you sue xero... at least they dun need to close down formula..

yeah... the CAAD10 is quite a frequent sight in the US crits... envious of you man... i got a wheel that is a fraction of my bike which is already a cheap ass one... and you have a wheel that equals the price of your bike or maybe even more...

Mavic van... WHY U NO COME TO MY SHOP!!!

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Added on August 9, 2012, 11:19 amohhh...megabike ah... ah keong.. here i come...

anyways... i no like shimano.. no go for me even if it's cheap...


This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 9 2012, 11:19 AM

buy liao swap with your favo ASSLAM la~

Buy Merida...good brand hehe same as specialized one

i no like silverback... sound like brokeback mountain li tat... and wat is silverback... i know diamondback la...

dowan... i pay RM5k more... i get RaceMachine + SRAM Red + Easton EA90SL...

wrong statement wei (nanti kena copyright infringement)... they might have made some specialized bikes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverback_%28disambiguation%29

lookit that sexy ass...definitely some brokeback mountain shit goin on there...

wonder if "back dat azz up" means anything to tis fella...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 9 2012, 03:50 PM

Yea I'm surprised they trusted me not to 'disappear' from the group with their RM11,000 wheels.

The Mavic van very clever, they like to poison people. No way I could afford them. I'm still with the 1576g, $260 Vuelta Corsa Lites. Even with S-works tires and tubes it feels sooo heavy now.

Recently I checked out your suggestion of building my own wheels and came across some KinLin from this website: http://fairwheelbikes.com/rims-road-rims-c...fbf2d055cad78a7

Maybe hubs from: http://c-4shop.com/

This post has been edited by Eokboy: Aug 9 2012, 04:20 PM

the same i told miaopurr... the choice for me is between bikehubstore.com (in US, think north carolina or something like that) and bdopcycling.com (in taiwan)...

but since you are in the US... bikehubstore, fairwheelbikes, wheelbuilder.com, prowheelbuilder.com is all within your reach...

i think fairwheelbikes have a lot of fancy stuff like extralite and tune hubs...if you like fancy spokes like white sapim cx-rays and DT aerolite.. they have it too... practically boutique stuff if you ask me..

in terms of cheaper options, i'd say bikehubstore... free delivery within US as far as i know.. not sure if all states...the good thing with them is that they have this crazy taiwanese hubs... the front is called superlight wide... very light @ under 85 grams and very wide... even wider than the Zipp 88's.. something like 78mm wide vs 74 or 76mm on the zipp...

i would have preferred lacing them spoke elbow out on my set, but i struggle (or too chicken) to force the spoke into those angle... and my specially bought DT spoke head puncher was wasted as i didn't know how to use it properly...and they use Enduro bearings too... don't think it's the highest grade... but hopefully something like the ABEC5 grades... definitely a try if you are on a budget... they don't build your wheels though...

the only complaints is their hubs don't have thicker axles like 17mm on the king hubs... i think they still run on 15mms... it should make for a stiffer hub...

and reputation... i would say wheelbuilder.com... they are very famous for professionally built wheels...i've had some mail conversations with them before... unfortunately their price was a bit too stiff for me and they only have the more famous and expensive hubs like CK, White Industries, DT 180/190/240s (and this are the cheap ones) which are too costly for me...

all 3 i believe have kinlin rims as kinlin is quite a famous rim for being cheap and lightweight... if you are light enough and need a shallow wheel... they even have a XR-200 i think that drops below 400grams per rim... i prefer the middle ground XR-270s...

only advise i can give is to buy nipples washers to use with the kinlins since they do not have eyelets in them... this should make the rim tougher to crack under high spoke tensions...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 9 2012, 04:50 PM

i remember an article done by Lennard on wheelbuilder and it's owner Rich Sawiris... a very interesting article if you appreciate hand builds...

Technical FAQ with Lennard Zinn: Wheelbuilder extraordinaire Rich Sawiris

don't even understand why the BMX is an olympic games event all of a sudden...


all i can say is the man knows his wheel building.. nipple cream (don't think naughty things here), park tools, spoke punchers, levering the spokes to sit the elbows and spoke heads...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 9 2012, 05:09 PM

not so sure, looks standard. here is the links http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/view_item.php?id=135282 this is the links

Ohh... sorry.. Helios 100.. i misread as Helios F100, the flatbar hybrid...

not sure if the price is like that.. but a new one definitely will only costs around RM1.8k - RM2k...

give rodalink a quick call to check the retail price of a new bike...

Rodalink Hartamas - 15 Jalan 23/70A, Desa Sri Hartamas, 50480 Kuala Lumpur. 03-6201 0422
Rodalink Putrajaya – No 22, Jalan Diplomatik, Presint 15, Putrajaya. 03-8889 2822
Rodalink Bangsar - 56, Jalan Telawi, Bangsar Baru, 59100, Kuala Lumpur. 03-2287 1022
Rodalink Bandar Botanic – No 93 Jalan Mahogani, 5/KS7 Ambang Botanic,, 41200 Klang. 03-3325 9403

make your decision after you find out the price of a new bike...

even then.. there is 2 problems to it.. you are not sure if the size is right for you... and bike is in kuching... you don't want to bet on long range transportation for bikes.. not cool if the owner does not know how to pack a bike for transportation...

even then... try to spend a bit more to get the 10speed tiagra if possible... 9-speed is just a bit too yesteryear for me...

i am located in kuching haha, there are only 2 shop so far here, i will ask about their price at rodalink. thks very much for the information.

This post has been edited by nightzstar: Aug 9 2012, 08:38 PM

Wow.. One bloody gooding write-up & detail explanation.. I really dunno how to differentiate between a 31mm rim & 24mm rim at all.. coming from MTB days.. I only know 1 size 26" common MTB rim haha ...Wehn comes to road bike, rims jargong changed to 700C-23 pulak and got myself confused and thereafter sumore blur-blur on tnhat 31mm & 24mm measurement..damn noob man..paisehh

ohhh.. ok... they say assumption is the mother of all fakups... now you know why

still.. give it a check and see... you dun wanna be overpaying... maybe the price in kuching and KL is different and that is the reality that you have to expect... RM1.8k would get a sora equiped new bike here in KL at least i would say...


haha....can't believe the crap i wrote actually made sense to anyone, can't even understand it myself when i read it back... that's the blardy difference work does to you 7-8 hours later, brain turned into mash potatoes (waiting for the milk and lumps of butter to be poured on and stirred to creamy consistency, evidence that i am quite the hungry at this point in time of posting that i will gnaw on my own brain)

24mm and 31mm???... 7mm difference lar... a ruler will tell you that... jus kiddin..

as i say.. it all depends on what you ride more... flats or road going skywards? and choose your wheels accordingly.. that is why there are climbing wheels and aero wheels as differentiation... and a kind of wheels known as the "not up not down" category like the Zipp 303... not aero fully... but also not the lightest possible... and totally meant for the un-decided and fickle minded riders... or was designed by the bastards who are sick and tired of their mates always complaining of losing touch with the group due to bringing the wrong set of wheels to the wrong route... anyways... bike stuff is as confusing as women... i wish there is a instructional guide too... but there is jus none... and that is plain frustrating... ain't it hard enough to court girls... now we have to deal with life choices when choosing a damn hoop??? WTF!!! (ok... too dramatic... tone it down)

if you find no clear directions.. jus go with the force your heart...

actually.... measurement always exists... like the recent MTB 29" / 29ner fad... and then the 27"/650b or something like that... jus those asswipes using different measurement system to make shit sound more sophisticated...

sheldon brown distilled quite most of his knowledge onto his site... he might be gone today.. but his knowledge new or outdated continues living in some server somewhere in "god knows where"

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/

not the most techno junkie material... but... it'll do fine for now...