HWOAHhhh...vin_ann got some moderator friends... better shut my trap before kena permaban 

dropping an alu frame below 8 kilos might be a though thing to do unless you are mortal enemies with your wallet... wats the weight of your rig now? a good set of wheels like the FR0 might see a 400 gram drop at max from your aksium race.. and that is a RM3k investment easy..

carbonize your cockpit and maybe shave another 300+ grams away.. but another RM2k thinner on your wallet..

at the end of the day... you'll be better off selling yours and getting vin_ann's nobita bullying aluminum giant that is already around 8kilos in stock form and with 105 groupie... or some fancy carbon bike...

haha.... sorry... our lousy acronyms... FR0 (zero) is for Fulcrum (brand) Racing Zero (model)

here's the link.. of course, there are many other wheels out there in the wild... but at least... there are 2 rich kids here owning this set of wheels which you can ask for opinions...

http://www.fulcrumwheels.com/en/collection...cts/racing-zero

btw, my dearest senior, your riding purpose is "Gaya 1st, spec 2nd, feel 3rd, and speed infinity place behind" right?

yeah... i was going to say FR1 (sked offend mr.jgx ) as well cause the FR0 does not offer much difference except for a lighter carbon hub shell and the use of USB ceramic bearings... the problem is that the price difference is not that huge... only around RM300-RM400 if i am not wrong...

the new FR3 (this years model) is also definitely not a bad choice from the view of weight alone... but you sacrifice certain things like stiffness of the FR1 and FR0.. and this is something which you can really feel if you are a pedal stomper...

i think even FR3 is not by any means cheap... around RM1.7k to RM1.8k...

Dura-ace 2nd hand? few months back, there's 1 pair in my bike shop selling around RM3k+++

not sure whether now sold already or not.

walaueh... a bit dangerous leh... never heard of the brand before...

might as well you give the cina mali one a try...

i eyeballed this before, powerway brand... someone sold before on BBS.. but now hilang adi (smell a bit fishy)... i was too chicken shit to try it out...

http://cycleway.cn/products/product-103.html

<1500grams and hopefully if that is USD then price is < RM1.5k for a new set of wheels...

Did my first 20km today. Was riding well then suddenly my left leg cramp and i had to stop beside but then i lost my balance when stopping/unclip i fell down the wrong side, got stuck on the ground as all my muscle suddenly cramp and i cant move. Random ppl stop by to pull me up. nothing big deal apart from minor cut on my left elbow and muslce stiffen up and cramp.

Perhaps need some kind of warm up prior to riding?

Manged to get home safely tho

well... if you are convinced with what you read... the only thing left is to place your faith on it..

that 2 videos has nothing much to convince me about the brand... really..

guys, is polygon helios 100 good? saw one second hand sale for rm1800, is the price expensive?

if you compare FR3 and the Amain-T RD30 black version which is only 30 grams lighter.. i think it's not a whole lot of difference... this is 1 lesson i learned long ago that wheel claim weight is not everything...

if the majority of the weight is centered on the rim... you will find it harder to spin up but maintains momentum like miaopurr says and vice versa... that looks to be the case on the amain-T as it has a 31mm rim compared to the 24mm on the fulcrum...

an example was one of my previous set of wheels... the Xero XSR-1... a funky paired spoke wheel.. claimed weight is well under 1600 grams... but it is hard to spin up as the rim is bulked up due to having 2 spoke holes at the same spot of the rim (unlike most paired spoke wheels, and i do mean exact same spot as in side by side) thus they have to make those places with thicker walls and resulted in a heavier rim...  i think they managed to shave weight using a lighter hub and also helped by the lighter DT revolution spokes... on the contrary, my next wheel the SRAM S27 was listed as heavier but spun up smoother as the S27 rim was practically a set of rebranded kinlin 27mm niobium rims (rumor)... so the weight is more balanced out between the hub and rims making it a set that is considerably easy to spin up...

at the end of the day... it does boil down to what you want to do with the wheel... if you are the aggresive attacking type of climber... the wheel with less rotational mass is preferred... if you ride flats at speed a lot... the amain-T will serve it's purpose since it's more aero and the slight dent in spin up performance can be negated...
seems like you are paying for a totally new bike + healthy tips
you saved someone's wallet today.... honorary hero of the day 

bet you're happy like a kid in a candy store... how much does the wheel cost?

That will be under RM1k already wor..

guys, any reason why exitwat is not good? coz i was confused some shop owner prefer exitway than polygon, the owner claimed he got few of customers claiming warranty for leaking frame of polygon bike and he stop selling polygon brands.

btw the links u gave me is gcshop, the ones i mentioned is this http://www.exitway.com/index.php?option=co...id=86&Itemid=92 that is my soon to be purchased bike. 

  shocking find, but nvrtheless, i am going to ride the bike in trainer mode and hopefully it fits my body well. btw thks very much for this info, really broaden my knowledge of cycling. Wanna ask if want change the cassette need around how much, i will be starting with 8 speed first then if i feel there is really practical need for 10 speed i might save moolah in the future for 10 speed upgrade.

i see, will 10 speed be an overkill? for beginner