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post Aug 7 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 7 2012, 03:20 PM)
holy shit.

im now just aware my favourite run with chicks mountain chicks sea are just 14 hours apart with my KOM race!

dammit! if i committed, after run with chicks race, need to depart immediate to Ipoh... dont know i will still can survive my KOM cycle up to Cameron Highland the next day or not...

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Nike? haha Nike will be full of chick, KOM will be full of cock
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post Aug 7 2012, 06:18 PM

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Dang woke up at 5 to ride in wee hours oh morning. Damn, gonna expect no ppl but the whole road is full of cyclist and construction workers. Mind you the temp was about 6/7 degrees.

Is the frame consider stiff if i can feel vibration from all kind of road condtion the bike ride on (in a way not comfy)? What define stiff as in lateral stiffness? How do i feel it?

Tweak the front brake to align it toward the braking track, now the brake zap the speed much better. Is normal that the rear brake is much more mushy compared to the huge stopping power of front brake?

*Gotta woke up at 3 am to cycle at my fav area less automobile traffic. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 7 2012, 06:33 PM

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Nike? Chic?

Le Butthead mark your calendar holiday here we come~~~ weeeeeeeeeee
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post Aug 7 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Aug 7 2012, 06:18 PM)
Dang woke up at 5 to ride in wee hours oh morning. Damn, gonna expect no ppl but the whole road is full of cyclist and construction workers. Mind you the temp was about 6/7 degrees.

Is the frame consider stiff if i can feel vibration from all kind of road condtion the bike ride on (in a way not comfy)? What define stiff as in lateral stiffness? How do i feel it?

Tweak the front brake to align it toward the braking track, now the brake zap the speed much better. Is normal that the rear brake is much more mushy compared to the huge stopping power of front brake?

*Gotta woke up at 3 am to cycle at my fav area less automobile traffic.  biggrin.gif
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stiffness has nothing to do with road resonance... stiff is when you stand on the pedals while you pull on the opposite side of the handlebar and feel that there is no torsional flex between the front end of your bike and the rear... that is an example of stiff...

in carbon bikes... stiff does not necessarily mean that it will be massively unforgiving... that is why through development and proper carbon layup methods... they can still achieve compliancy where it matters in a stiff carbon frame..

QUOTE(hianboy @ Aug 7 2012, 06:33 PM)
here we come~~~ weeeeeeeeeee
with chicks involved...didn't think of including you in my plan...



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post Aug 7 2012, 07:50 PM

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Do i need to stock myself gatorate or equivalent energy drink when ride for 1 hours non stop?
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post Aug 7 2012, 08:39 PM

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Darn.. pedalspot telling me Fulcrum R3 better than Kysrium now... He said got momentum not like mavic...

Mini-mini mini more.. I think I choose Dura-ace 2nd hand much better liao
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:02 PM

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Thanks again Butthead biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:12 PM

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Dear sifu. Which is a better among this 3?? Fulcrum racing quattro, 5 or 7?? For first time wheelset upgrade??
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Aug 7 2012, 07:50 PM)
Do i need to stock myself gatorate or equivalent energy drink when ride for 1 hours non stop?
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jus plain water will do...if you can take cold even better... cold water gets absorbed quicker..1 hour is just not long enough a sustained effort to require immediate replenishment of what you body needs...

the other reason is just in case you want to douse yourself on a hot day... you can do so with plain water... else, you will end up sticky and stuff...

jus replenish with sodium + carbo + sugar post ride...

QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 7 2012, 08:39 PM)
Darn.. pedalspot telling me Fulcrum R3 better than Kysrium now... He said got momentum not like mavic...

Mini-mini mini more.. I think I choose Dura-ace 2nd hand much better liao
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of course la... because they sell fulcrum ma... you go to kh cycle... i bet they even tell you ksyrium elite is better than Fulcrum R0...

it is totally down to who you trust at the end of the day... if you can sneak a ride on a friends bike having those wheels to get a quick feel... even better...

the only reason like i mention to take fulcrum for myself is because i know that i will have backing in case my wheel goes kaput... not for any value or performance reasons... for you... the factors might be varyingly different...

QUOTE(yuanyi @ Aug 7 2012, 10:12 PM)
Dear sifu. Which is a better among this 3?? Fulcrum racing quattro, 5 or 7?? For  first time wheelset upgrade??
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depends on what you want... do you want low profile or slightly aero wheels?

Racing 5 and 7 are low profile wheels with only 24mm rim height, considered a different lineup to the quattro... while the racing quattro is fulcrum's try at alloy aero clinchers...and they are 35mm in height which is very hard to produce rims of such height and quite unheard off..

looking at on the sheet performance (i haven't ridden the quattros yet, but i owned before a set of 1st gen R7s) it could possibly be a stiffer wheel than either R5 or R7 due to bulkier rim...and at 1700 grams.. they are surprisingly lighter than the R5 too...

Quattros have 4 spokes less on the front wheel than the R5 and similar 21 spokes at the rear... this part baffles me as i am not sure how they saved the weight using a rim with more mass... i didn't really taken note to see if the quattro is using exactly the same hub as R5... but it does give some features like anti spoke rotation which is not on the R5 but the higher end model R3 2-way fit....

aesthetically.. i think the quattro is much fancier as well as you can clearly see the branding more with a taller rim... and the white "fulcrum" lettering looks good when the wheel is spinning... i am a sucker for spinning white letterings...

price wise.. i think the quattro is roughly around the range of R5 pricing at RM1.1k... the R7 is around RM700.. which is cheaper, but also a heavier set of wheels...

i guess your choice if you can afford is either the R5 or quattro.. and the R5 being a more expensive model if i am not wrong despite the quattro looking to beat it on paper... this in effect makes the quattro quite a worthy purchase....


Added on August 7, 2012, 10:58 pmi got a shock of my life.. wanscycle is selling the quattro at RM880 and R5 at RM710...DANG

racing quattro
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/634

racing 5
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/609

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post Aug 7 2012, 11:12 PM

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fulcrum got more momentum coz it's slightly heavier than ksyrium. and fulcrum hub is cone n cup type. mavic use sealed bearing, got seal drag. that's why la fulcrum rolls much better. but both have pros n cons.

i brought my slightly dented fulcrum to ksh (now pedalspot) to replace the rim. they said no replacement. must buy new complete wheelset. hmm....
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post Aug 8 2012, 01:56 AM

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the true believers will say that fulcrum will not roll better as it uses the cartridge type cup-and-cone system... they believe the one that rolls faster is the older shimano loose ball type cup-and-cone system... whether true or not... no scientific evidence...

one thing for sure is faster with the fulcrum one is .... servicing time... jus dig old one out, take new one... aim and wham it in and you are done... shimano ones you will end up spending the time chasing each ball all over the bike shop (if you are not careful and there is a wild ball on the loose, they are loose wat)....

regarding rim replacements... i am gonna part zip (pardon the pun) my lip on this...

i believe there is replacement rims for fulcrum wheels...it's just an evil ploy that the bike shops don't want to bring them in cause it does not benefit them...

you've raised a very darn good point with this one especially in the long run...

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post Aug 8 2012, 09:21 AM

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replacement is available. i went to another bike shop, the owner just asked me for the model, year, and the part number would be a big plus.

i went on the internet and found replacement rims on sale.
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post Aug 8 2012, 09:47 AM

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haha... wish you good luck in rim searching...

maybe give godzilla cycles a try... since they got sell fulcrum smile.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 09:50 AM

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asked godzilla too, but yet to receive reply. minor dent tho
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Aug 7 2012, 07:50 PM)
Do i need to stock myself gatorate or equivalent energy drink when ride for 1 hours non stop?
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hehe, i think u should stop worrying and start cycling, worrying alone will get you nowhere, with cars or not you will still have to cycle. After all traffic condition in Aussie is much forgiving than Malaysia's. Australia is quite flat in comparison (depends which city you live in)
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 8 2012, 09:50 AM)
asked godzilla too, but yet to receive reply. minor dent tho
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malaysia bike scene is getting worst for the old farts... .WHY!!!

i should start a cycling ranting blog tongue.gif

rant everything from too many boutique bike shops to girls not wearing shorts short enough...

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 8 2012, 10:48 AM)
hehe, i think u should stop worrying and start cycling, worrying alone will get you nowhere, with cars or not you will still have to cycle. After all traffic condition in Aussie is much forgiving than Malaysia's. Australia is quite flat in comparison (depends which city you live in)
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haha.. say like you want to migrate there li tat...

i agree... worry so much... might as well use computrainer at home.. safe, got scenery and get to exercise...
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 7 2012, 08:39 PM)
Darn.. pedalspot telling me Fulcrum R3 better than Kysrium now... He said got momentum not like mavic...

Mini-mini mini more.. I think I choose Dura-ace 2nd hand much better liao
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Dura-ace 2nd hand? few months back, there's 1 pair in my bike shop selling around RM3k+++

not sure whether now sold already or not.
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 8 2012, 11:14 AM)
Dura-ace 2nd hand? few months back, there's 1 pair in my bike shop selling around RM3k+++

not sure whether now sold already or not.
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wahlau... RM3k for 2nd hand... tak boleh la... people aim for RM1.5k only...

maybe that is C50.. but still not so expensive...
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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 8 2012, 11:35 AM)
wahlau... RM3k for 2nd hand... tak boleh la... people aim for RM1.5k only...

maybe that is C50..  but still not so expensive...
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i dont know d model le... but that's what being told ma.
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post Aug 8 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 8 2012, 12:04 PM)
i dont know d model le... but that's what being told ma.
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nanti your senior come and pancung your kelapa for recommending him something so expensive... me guarantee no go adi...


Added on August 8, 2012, 12:26 pm
new twist clic applicator on motorex lubes for more precise application of lube.... not expected anywhere near your bike shop soon....

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wish i had this on my tube of ky jelly... won't be squirting it all over the place tongue.gif

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