of course there r differences between hiragana, katakana(except for "he" char), well i started from hiragana 1st bcoz i think i can see many hiragana words like in japanese tv shows(although there r also kanji) or in some beginner japanese lessons, and there are also kanji words that come with furigana(izzit?... the small word they put on top of kanji to help wit the pronunciation, correct me k!), which usually hiragana(maybe bcoz the origin of the word, which is japanese word)..... but thats depends... some say hiragana more difficult to memorize same say katakana (for me katakana is more difficult ), try to make a table for those words, .... i cant tell more bout kanji coz i myself hv hard time memorizing them ... all this is base on my experience and thought , sorry if it didnt help a lot

so u mean here have to learn both also?

interested in the language and be able to read, write, in japanese, you must know all 3 kana.... you can learn/memorize all 3 at once if u want, or u can concentrate on 1 kana 1st(for katakana n hiragana)....

but for me, its better to know hiragana 1st becoz, along the way u might also learn bout the grammar, the particles,which is written in hiragana(although many japanese beginner lessons comes in romanji),.... ... n many japanese words are written with the combination of kanji and hiragana...

This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Nov 6 2007, 05:00 PM

hmm..thanks..jz wonder y japanese got 3 types..mandarin jz got 1 type only.hmm make me confuse only @.@

yea loh,btw where can learn japanese?

I can teach you, here, or find a language school. A lot of them in Klang Valley alone.

Don't get worked up on trying to memorize Kanji. This is something non Chinese ed ppl have a hard time to deal with.

i thought more easy
u wont confused as those ady learn cn...
till now i still mixed some of the kanji

u must go through their history....

do you hav any other way to work wit kanji?

I have no idea. I was wondering if there is other ways to read kana without looking at every word. Would a stronger vocab makes reading easier?

i doubt thats going to work, bcoz i hav a chinese friend, can speak fluent chinese, but he cant read chinese

-edit- nvm i found my answer

This post has been edited by soitsuagain: Nov 29 2007, 09:11 AM

haiyo.... how come same case like me except that is me.....lol.....i also cant read chinese.. T.T

same... my friend can speak but cant read chinese words...


btw, how to differentiate the usage of "sumimasen" & "gomenasai" ?

both are interchangeable...

however - to apologize "gomennasai" or "gomen kudasai" is preferable i.e when you cheated someone...

"suimasen" or "sumimasen" is used to excuse yourself, i.e trying to get yourself away from the crowd or getting to the loo...

You can add "domo" at "sumimasen" to give the most sincerest form of usage.

Kinda unusual.

I'd suggest:

"sumimasen" for most general purposes, even thanks sometimes if you caused inconvenience

"gomen" etc if you bump into somebody

"gomen kudasai" to call staff in a shop or call outside a house

"shitsurei shimashita" if you caused serious problem or extra courteous to a superior or client

"shitsurei shimasu" if leaving or excusing self from business client or meeting


some more, "moshiwake" etc but too complicated!

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hi err maybe my question is abit out of the threads track, but I've been wondering for a long time now, what does "ochinko" means? Thanks btw

i think "ochinko" = penis...

btw, the suggestions for sumimasen / gomen, etc. on top are a bit odd imo.

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