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akira de aimbuster
post Jan 11 2008, 04:29 PM

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what is tsutaetai mean? always heard this word in japanese songs xD
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post Jan 11 2008, 05:29 PM

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Want to tell/convey
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post Jan 13 2008, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(xess @ Jan 8 2008, 09:35 AM)
btw, the suggestions for sumimasen / gomen, etc. on top are a bit odd imo.
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Be specific if you want to be helpful, onegaishimasu...

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post Jan 14 2008, 03:37 PM

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Well, this is what I think. Sumimasen is considered more polite and more of an 'excuse me', type of word, but can also be used to as an apology word. Gomen is just to apologise. Sumimasen is more appropriate when apologising to strangers.

As for shitsurei shimasu and shimashita, the earlier is present/future tense and the latter is past tense. While or before you'd do something, you'd use shimasu. And for a mistake that you'd done last time, you'd use shimashita, otherwise they might think you're excusing yourself to go home or something.
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post Jan 19 2008, 04:13 AM

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Sorry if information overload for the original questioner.... but of course you realize Jpns is well, sorta DIFFERENT from most languages, ne?!?

QUOTE(xess @ Jan 14 2008, 03:37 PM)
Well, this is what I think. Sumimasen is considered more polite and more of an 'excuse me', type of word, but can also be used to as an apology word. Gomen is just to apologise.
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@ xcess, TQ agree with you about everything. JIC questioner wants more... Sumimasen e.g. to pass other people when getting off train. Gomen (nasai) if packed and you bump into or step onto someone while doing so.

Sumimasen is usually first choice. If in doubt, sumimasen said sincerely slowly and more than one time is fine. When I used some other phrases all at once, concerned JP frenz asked which situation exactly I was apologizing for.

QUOTE(xess @ Jan 14 2008, 03:37 PM)
otherwise they might think you're excusing yourself to go home or something.
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Again, sumimasen is enough for going home. You wouldn't go home halfway through a business meeting or formal reception unless it's an emergency, for which then you'd use shitsurei shimasu to the chairperson/host and an explanation.

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Can check whther the translation for this sentence is correct ar?? thx..

Its either i go for it or i forget it=その私はそれのために行くまたは私はそれを忘れている

Is ohaiyo means hello? Coz i read the MYC magazine and it means hello..Should be good morning right?

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post Jan 21 2008, 07:48 PM

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It's generally safe to answer such greetings the way they're said to you smile.gif

"ohayou gozaimasu" (おはようございます) is the more polite form for strangers, teachers, bosses, elders etc.
If you're talking to friends, family etc (people you know) then just "ohayou!" (おはよう) is fine.
These of course are only "Good morning!"

"konbanwa" - good evening
& of course
"konnichiwa" - good day/general hello during the day

and yes, as he said, "moshi-moshi" is only for the telephone, nowhere else. smile.gif
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post Jan 22 2008, 05:43 PM

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Wow, Takashi you know so many languages..... blink.gif
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post Jan 23 2008, 05:20 AM

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@eisenmeteor

その私はそれのために行くまたは私はそれを忘れている to me would mean:

Talking about that me, talking about that purpose of the again going, talking about me, i forgot that.

"Its either i go for it or i forget it"
maybe you can try, "頑張らないとダメだ" for something simpler
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post Jan 27 2008, 01:00 AM

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thanks for the guide guys ^^
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post Jan 27 2008, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(takashishinohara @ Jan 21 2008, 07:48 PM)
It's generally safe to answer such greetings the way they're said to you smile.gif
"ohayou gozaimasu"  ..... "ohayou!"
These of course are only "Good morning!"
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Small note: Some people say it when they meet someone for the first time on that day, even if it's at NIGHT!

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post Jan 28 2008, 12:16 AM

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aaa mou asa da...ohayou minna~ biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2008, 11:33 PM

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Question -- where in Gmail are those e-books?
I really can't find them.
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post Jan 30 2008, 12:11 PM

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rclxms.gif wow........this is cool.....looking forward to learn jap....maybe i can get a japanese gals....huhu
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post Jan 30 2008, 03:08 PM

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What does madoromu kimi ni sosogu means?

The kanji would be まどるむキミにそそぐ.

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QUOTE(slasherbaven @ Jan 28 2008, 11:33 PM)
Question -- where in Gmail are those e-books?
I really can't find them.
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Log into the email account mentioned in the first post. They should be there. Just download the attachments.

OMFG the files are missing! Someone deleted them! T_T

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post Jan 30 2008, 05:04 PM

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wow all lessons complete?

mmm so now lets turn this topic to full japanese speaking thread biggrin.gif
but no kanji la..i dunno to read..lol blush.gif
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QUOTE(jhcj @ Jan 30 2008, 04:21 PM)
Log into the email account mentioned in the first post. They should be there. Just download the attachments.

OMFG the files are missing! Someone deleted them! T_T
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So that's what happened.. so hey, if you or any other people wouldn't mind uploading them again, could you?

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post Feb 2 2008, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(slasherbaven @ Jan 31 2008, 03:32 PM)
So that's what happened.. so hey, if you or any other people wouldn't mind uploading them again, could you?
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I deleted the ones on my HD. T_T

I'll try to see if I can find them again. Sigh.
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That would be really great.
Thanks, jhcj.

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