Just now I saw a trailer loading 6 Peugeot 408 on Prai Highway.... Suspect they will be delivered to Peugeot Auto City....

408 launching soon ?


The back side really look nicer than the weird 508.... Tail lights is also nicer....



This post has been edited by masz94: May 18 2012, 10:45 AM

they frequently testing the car now.
especially around gurun-guar chempedak- and the PLUS highway.
followed two - black and silver - mildly taped Pugs at high speed a fortnight ago

seemed comfortable at 180kmh. wonder who pays their ticket..hurmm

I edy saw 1 last week otr with plate number... No photo taken..

Yup..... The one i saw is unmasked.... ready unit.....

Go check out Peugeot showrooms tomorrow

I just saw 2 408 (black and white) at klang bukit tinggi branch...check it out..official launching on 21/5

i prefers 407 sexy body

yea, the design is everlasting.

I was in balakong service center yesterday to fix my 508 (yes new car, now already need repairs ) and there's 2 units of 408 there, hiding at the back of the service bay

CONFIRMED: Peugeot 408 to be finally launched next week

Yup .... and I just did an article on it:

http://www.kensomuse.com/2012/05/peugeot-4...hy-or-nice.html

Nice specs...but must wait for the price...

I really hope there is a sub-RM100k option for the THP

That will never happen...hehe

Got ... 2nd hand

One can dream....

But that said, we can assume that the price would be close to the 308 Turbo. If it come out with all the bells and whistles that the 308 Turbo has at a similar price, we can start to wonder who would want to spend about RM60k extra to get the 508.

Look nice..how much issit?

Don't know la, maybe it's just me. I like the "misai" design on 308 more haha.

Brochure at www.arenakereta.com

Last Night, I was at Juru AutoCity.....

Went to Peugeot Showroom, & saw 3 408, ready for viewing...

Basically looks like a "308" sedan...

Interior also the same...

Exterior wise, 308 look more fierce & nicer....

Took a comparison pic too...

Pics.....

Haha.. me too... The 308 looks more sporty than the 408....

Anyway, hatch always look hotter than their sedan bro's...

Still no indication on the pricing yet. But rumor has it, it's around 130k. I did find things funny though in the brochure. Combined fuel consumption is 8.2L/100km vs 7.1L/100km on the 508. Same engine, same gearbox, weights similar to the 508, but higher FC. 508's FC has been over-exaggerated I guess.

Too bad the 2.0L model is still running on dinosaur 4-speeder gearbox, else it'd be a better choice in terms of reliability

Last night I peeked through the window of the car.... the at the Turbo models gear lever, got sticker... AT6...

Six speeder...

No need to peek ler .... All the interior shots can be seen in my blog

haha.... idk bout that...

So i peek ler.... Interior, very classy.... but somewhat exterior looks bland... But not plain boring like VW....

it may be a 4-speed transmission but it is a newly engineered one. it is called AT8 instead of the old AL4 which most peugeot fans are familiar with. Should me more responsive as well as economical than the old AL4.

Well, hopefully the gear ratios are suited for cruising speeds. The old AL4 has unusually high rpm cruising at 110kmh. Not so economical.

Kenso, u very rajin ah creating that C-segment comparison table in your blog.
But i'd like you to re-check one thing in that table, the car width.
Peugeot likes to INCLUDE the side mirrors when they quote their car width.
Other manufacturers measures width at the widest point MINUS the side mirrors.

I realize this odd habit by peugeot & citroen when i was surveying for an MPV.
Peugeot quote 5008's width as >2000mm. That's wider than the Starex (1900+mm)!!!
Impossible right? Peugeot/citroen cheats.

The 308's width, as mentioned in brochure, didn't include side mirror. Don't know about other models though

Actual width is only 1837mm. The 2000mm+ is inclusive of the wing mirrors. Like I mentioned in previous post, peugeot's brochures dont tally among models.

Owh sorry I didn't read your previous post. So are the 308 and 408 really the widest C-segment, exteriorly. From my crude visual inspection, they don't look much wider than the rest. Not that it matters much, just curious.

To love a pug, you must love tea.

My 308T worst..

Actually, driving below 50km/h start stop is the worst, you might think you are saving fuel going slow but actually you are not.

Thanks bro for the compliment. Actually, the table is a one time effort .... from then it's just adding more and more info to the table as newer models are introduced. There are also some data that are still missing and would appreciate anyone to provide and verify the data for everyone to see.

http://www.kensomuse.com/2012/05/breaking-...page-views.html

Am happy to have achieved a new milestone in the development of the site.

so, what's your dig on the jetta vs 408turbo? i think many have this burning question in mind.

Welcome back from your break, bro!

Can't really say from the short test drive I had of the 408T this afternoon (updated it in my 408 blog review).

One thing I can say for sure ...

in terms of cabin design, the 408 wins hands down.
rear legroom, Jetta wins
performance, ride and handling - need to test the 408 more extensively. Got courtesy car ar?

i sat inside 408...its nice....

max, what's your take on the space and interior?

its good, leather interior and nice design

it has rear aircond vents too

no price stated yet

This is everyone would like to know. Compare between Jetta and Peugeot 408 turbo

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Added on May 20, 2012, 12:13 pmThe price I just ask .$128k for 1.6 turbo and $138k for 2.0

This post has been edited by jyyoong: May 20 2012, 12:13 PM

er, actually it is the other way round. turbo with more power and spec is the more expensive model.

Back looks sad. Droopy tail lights, similar to sylphy

seen the real car yet? they're in showrooms already

RM128k for the 2.0? REALRY?!

yup. but that's just an estimate. nobody knows for certain until it is revealed tomorrow night for both cars.

This post has been edited by lowpro: May 20 2012, 10:22 PM

Around rm115k for 2.0

wow! fantastic if true! this will really give those 1.6 to 2.0 cars around the rm100k - rm120k price range a real run for their money.

Saw preparation works at the new Blue Box building in Glenmarie just earlier...... will just drop to view. Ady placed a 1% booking for a pre-reg 323i 2012 with AB............. but hopefully they have 320d for me....

The 408 has been officially launched and priced at RM109,888 for the 2.0 NA and RM125,888 for the 1.6T. What do you guys think?

Also, kensomuse.com has moved house and the earlier 408 link no longer works. Here's the new one:

http://www.kensomuse.com/peugeot-408-are-y...gthy-or-nice-2/

holy crap! what a great pricing! goodbye elantra sales.....

back still looks frankenstein-ish lols, but good pricing.

It's not that bad la, bro .... certainly better than frankenstein 207. Peugeot did a good job at elongating the rear doors and added a 3/4 window behind (the 308 does not have this "small" window at the back). Here's my full opinion about it based on price:

http://www.kensomuse.com/the-peugeot-408-o...8-for-the-1-6t/

naza
this 408>all C segment

This post has been edited by maverickng: May 21 2012, 11:31 PM

err...sorry to say...for me 407 looks better anytime

damn. this car looks nice. i've always like french car.

when you drive it, you'll always feel smarter than other people.

Yup... The front will look nicer with 308 bumper....

The rear looks too bland.... but interior is superb....

Haha... for me, the 'smartest' so farthat i sat in, is Citroen C4 Picasso....

Seriously high tech....

with price 100k for a 2 litre conti ... this is gonna blow alot c-seg cars away

110k not 100k

At rm110k i think it´s really value for money. Only concen about quality n reliability ..

The 2 litre uses the well proven 407 engine mated with a 308VTi gearbox. Both are proven to be reliable and fuss free

I heard the 4 speed gb used by the 2.0 na is prone to problems , no?

If you're comparing against the AL4 that's found in the 407, yes, it has jerk issues, especially at low speeds. But the 408 2.0 shares the same gearbox as the 308VTi which is AT8 and we don't hear much complaints about gearbox jerks from VTi owners

I see, but i thought i saw a sticker written AL4 sticked on the gear knob when i went to see the car

so which will be a better buy? 2.0 or 1.6?

It depends .... on whether you're Naughty or Nice

^^Prince engine is really that unreliable huh? Naughty girl=exciting=unreliable, right? That's too bad since the engine output is really gooding.
So now we have a reasonably priced C-Seg conti in the form of 408, I wonder what CKD Jetta's price going to be like. RM130k a good price?

Difference between the 4AT and the 6AT is 4AT is super cheap to maintain but crude, 6AT cost 10X more to maintain but have more gears to play with and is much smoother.

This post has been edited by azbro: May 22 2012, 06:51 PM

Go to the 308 owners club, and u will find out that tons of them are hving problems

Nice car but damn unreliable.if ur a light user maybe its ok for u, but definately no for heavy users like me.



This post has been edited by kevin23: May 22 2012, 07:48 PM

The 308THP 4 speeder, yes
The 308THP 6 speeder, maybe
The 408 2.0 NA 4 speeder, probably never

Did a test drive just now.
Tested the turbo version,it was powerful and impressive with the NVH
Comfort wise so so...becoz of the sportier suspension setup,but I m ok with it
Overall is a valuable choice.
Wondering the cost of maintenance forgot to ask..
is anyone know roughly how much it is?

You can actually floor it more for immediate Turbo...seems like the accelerator is two steps type. Try it...but make sure the road is clear.

Tried ady, the pulling feel really strong man
So shiok

actually kenso77 has tested both models back to back today. why not check out what he wrote here in his updated blog:

http://www.kensomuse.com/the-peugeot-408-o...8-for-the-1-6t/

anyway, the new 408 turbo has an updated engine with new pistons, turbo, engine map and a few other enhancements to iron out the issues faced by 308 turbo owners. as a result it is also more powerful than before.

but if you're really risk averse, the rm109,888 2.0 makes a pretty good presentation of itself too.

This post has been edited by lowpro: May 22 2012, 09:16 PM

Peugeot 408 is a pretty nice car, only the rear design is a letdown to the rather handsome exterior design.

Check out the night where the 408 is launched! http://www.simonhar.com/2012/05/peugeot-40...ty-or-nice.html

really nice car

I am interested in getting the car (turbo) and before test drive, maybe I can help to test out certain features or issues not detected previously. Since you are the first to test drive, do you mind sharing where you test drive the car, distance of test drive and when you mean comfort wise so so, can you elaborate a little bit on the statement?

I like the front more than the back, but I am not looking for sporty design, else I would have selected elantra already. But, looking at 163hp and maximum torque is 240 Nm at 1,400 rpm...I bet the pick-up at traffic light is fantastic and would beat all C-segment drive. Further more top speed at 215 is no slow couch either and even on par with some D-segment drive.

Might not win on the best spec and cabin design, but sure the hell beats all the Jap cars. Furthermore, conti drive and handling wor, at RM126K, fuh yoh...

Now just wanting for someone to convince me on the reliability of the engine and after sales service...

simon, vw quotes their power in PS rather than HP so in reality the 160PS relates to roughly about 158hp only. So the gap in power is actually greater for the 163hp 408Turbo and the Jetta.

Oh thx man, corrected the figure

no probs! nice blog you have there!

by the way, you can get a test car by speaking to the corp comms dept and showing then your blog and credentials. final decision is still up to them tho but no harm trying.

This post has been edited by lowpro: May 22 2012, 10:03 PM

If anyone else is checking out the car anytime soon, can check whether the rear tail light having same issues with elantra, where only the most outer rear tail light is lighted and the inner part of the tail light is just a deco (no light).

At least elantra can go for mod with shops in Klang Valley to light up the entire rear light...

As for the rear, some after market mod can sure go a long way

Unlike 207 which is puke-invoking design!!! No offense to current 207 owners :-)

Haha hope so, still working on the credentials and visitor statistics part, these two are what the company is looking at. Thanks for the advise man

sport mod...

this definitely looks cleaner, perhaps bodykit will give the 408 a sportier looking exterior.

I was tested at bukit tinggi klang branch.
In fact I tested 308t b4 but I felt that 408t is more powerful.
The suspension is stiffer n some more due to the low profile tyre,thus, it was a bit bumpy..
The distance is about 5-6 km,there is 2 straight road for me to test the power in fact I can request for 1 more round but due to time constraint so didn't go for it
I personally think that black color is a good choice, looks very nice matching with the chrome lining at the front n rear bumper.

Cool! Bro did you ask the SA other questions like car delivery time, colour selection (which colour delivery time faster, etc.)?

You comment the NVH was very good, so when you were shooting down the straight road, at what speed were you driving? At the speed you were driving, you did not hear any wind or road/tyre noise?

Did you get to check the sound system? Is it 6 speakers or more like 4+2 tweeter?

Sorry ah, ask so much questions...will try to go for a test drive after the school holidays so want to do a checklist for comparison...

I guess now it's elantra 2012 vs 408 vs (coming soon) focus 2012 for me to confirm my new ride...

is there any sign of 308T to reduce its price?

The SA told me 2.0 using same gb as 407, i believed because i saw AL4 sticker on the gear knob.

it is just a sticker. the transmission is called AT8 (which is a development over the older AL4).

I see, they should have used the right sticker then. Not sure how is the service n maintenance cost

so looks lik a better deal than 308thp?

2L should be like the 407 while the turbo should be identical to the 308turbo. both of which are not expensive.

I don't much feel good about the conti handling....where got conti handling these days? You drive 200+km/h on Malaysia roads with bumps seems like not worth the effort to make a car so fast.

Since I'm driving 308T I can tell you it beats almost all C segment you will find on the road...and most ppl after getting smoked seeing the Turbo badge will bow down to it...except if you encounter a Turbo Kancil..hehe..that one becareful.

Yes. can go 215km/h but not as easy as flooring the pedal. If you wanna know, there are many cases it can go only until 170km/h...this is because you always drive slow in traffic jam and very seldom do highway driving...so the car will adapt to it.
Some extreme cases you need to reset back the adaptive gearbox and hentam kaw - kaw then only can get 215km/h.
But seriously...215Km/h is really too fast for Malaysian highways for a standard car. Lorry, bus and slow moving cars always suddenly change lanes and travelling so fast, you will not have time to react. Even when travelling very fast on the back lanes, going up and down hill also you need to slow down because not sure on the road ahead.

The cabin is very nice..pictures don't do justice to it...so far no owner of the 308 have even negative comment of the dash...

Bro, thank you for your comment. This is my 1st time considering buying Peugeot car. Have never driven one, only see on the road. But price vs performance, I believe 408 offer the best. As for conti driving, only see from forum users many give good comments on conti cars handling, true or not, dunno yet.

As for highway driving, I use the MEX highway for daily driving from home to work (2-way), and I occasionally travel to North and South via NSE, traveling alone mostly, means to stay awake, I like to drive fast. Manage to borrow company's 323i recently and travel to North doing between 140km/h to 200km/h, great feeling, so alive! But, if one value their live and wants to drive fast, consideration like ESP, EBD, BA, etc. and 6 airbags can be a lifesaver. All presence on the 408T.

Driving in KL, you be lucky to be able to do 110km/hr (constantly) in the city center, and as I work nearby KLCC area, I fully agreed with your point. I assume you are driving a Peugeot now, can you let me know what is "reset back the adaptive gearbox" means? Is it a lever, button, or menu which you can configure? Interesting...

You see, I am driving a current gen CRV (before facelift) and looking for something more powerful to trade car with the HM

CRV is a good family car, but performance, road handling (esp. body roll) and NVH to me just ... sucks!

Anyone can share 308T FC? Since I believe 408T sharing the same engine, might give good indication of the FC. China market 408 says 8.2L/100km...dunno how true? My current FC on CRV with 50%/50% city/hw works out to about 10.1L/100km...(I am heavy footed)

How is the service n maintenance cost? Expensive ? SA told me major service cost 1 - 2k?

when we talk about conti handling in such cases , we are comparing to same segment car at the same speed, for conti cars the faster you go the more stable it is even on bumpy roads (in my case and my car works this way) , but it all boils down to weight , tires , suspension etc.

but of coz i cant tell if i've not driven it b4 , owned a 405 Gti b4 thou ... loved the suspension ... 408T looks appealing ...

Normal serv every 10k cost rm300-400. Major dunno. Btw got quoted nearly rm400 for front wiper lolilol.

408T good for 150km/h~170km/h cruising. I think for NKVE thats fast enough.

My 308T is about 8~9km/l (11~12l/100km)...I drive in the worst place...most of the time below 50km/h in jam
In that situation, its even worst than having a heavy foot....can even go up to 5km/l in jam!!

Depends on which you take...6speed ones cost more because the gearbox oil...4 speed ones lesser.
Yes, major service cost that much...but currently I'm on the 3 year warranty and 3 year free service/parts plan...I might additional another 2years warranty by Nasim

It's not a lever, button or menu. When you switch off the car and wait till everything becomes dark on the ODO meter, simply depress the gas pedal until the end for a few seconds. You will then hear a faint click sound. When this happens, you have effectively reset the GB and the ECU will start recording a new drive pattern.

To me, a conti feel is not just about how the car feels at high speeds (which, as some forumers has pointed out not often in KL's jam packed roads). More often is how the car tackles corners, especially at high(er) speeds. A conti's galvanized chassis feels tout, tight and coupled with good suspension settings and steering weight provides excellent feedback to the driver on how the car is behaving at all times. It is this amalgam of fine tuning of various components of the car to work as one that differentiates an Asian made car from a continental.