The 2.0L version is tuned for comfort, thus the suspension is more forgiving on road impurities. However, the 1.6T version is tuned for handling, that's why you felt that it is tighter, or harsher.

just to verify, the long button at the end of the windows switches at driver's door is only to "lock" the windows, and is not child lock?

That is different from 308, where that button is actually child lock button.

I beg to differ on the comfy part. Are you sure 408T is a comfortable car?

Hard suspension. Low profile tires. These contribute to a harsh ride. I am driving a 308VTi, and it has a softer suspension compared to 308T. Yet I am already feeling the car crashes and bangs through potholes. On wavy highway, the car actually hops up and down. On rough road surface, the car actually vibrates.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Sep 22 2012, 02:02 PM

Give and take... my friend. Give and take.

I have accepted the fact that the car has a harsh suspension. BUT, because of this, it handles very good. I just do not want to mislead all the 408T owner-to-be into thinking that the 408T will ride like Altis, soft and comfortable.

If the car has a hard suspension, then admit it.

Peugeot cars used to be super comfortable. Like 306, 406, 407, etc. Somehow, starting 308, Peugeot is going the entirely opposite direction.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Sep 22 2012, 05:21 PM

Sorry if the tone of my post gives you the impression of me being not satisfied with my car. Actually I am quite satisfied with all the other aspects of the car except for the harsher-than-normal ride. But I have come to accept it, and in fact look at the bright side that comes with it, which is the good handling. But, again, I will not tell a lie just because I like my car. So I still want to stand firm on my view that this car, 308/408T, has a harsh ride.

Oh man... you are harsher than a Mini's ride. Tell you what, unless the name of this thread is "408 fans club", or else I will say both the good, and bad of the car.

Thanks for being neutral.

Thanks for being neutral. We are car lovers, and we are here to learn about the characteristics of each car. We are not here to PRAISE a car blindly, just because we have bought it.

Who is Jessie?

my wife once commented that a Civic 2.0 (previous gen) gave her the floaty feeling at only 110km/h, while my 308VTi remains planted at 120km/h. However, at some stretch of NSE, I can actually feel my 308VTi hopping when the road is wavy.

Gotta agree with you on the Elantra's handling. I totally cannot feel what is happening on the road.

BTW, hope this will not attract flaming from Civic and Elantra owners.

cybermaster98... you better go hide your car now. Since people are so serious here, you never know when your car will end up in a river one day.

p/s: just joking.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Sep 25 2012, 07:30 AM

You can forget about DS5. Other than the great exterior look, and premium interior trim, this car is a joke. Ride is stiff, yet handling is lousy. It uses the cheapskate torsion-beam rear suspension (except the Hybrid4 version), even though it is supposed to be a luxury model.

So, now even the Citroen marquee signature ride comfort has been ruined by PSA.

BTW, I did not own the car, have not driven the car before. Those comments about the car are from the various reviewer. You can have a read at the following reviews:

http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/citroen/...atchback/review

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/mo...s5-2374537.html

You are right. 408NA is tuned for comfort, but 408T has a totally different suspension setup altogether.

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Added on September 27, 2012, 4:13 pmbetter put a disclaimer here: I am not saying that 408T is bad, or imply anything like that at all. Different people different taste. Some like it hard, some like it soft. I would prefer something in the middle, like the setup on 407.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Sep 27 2012, 04:13 PM

Common sense tells me to agree with you. Rough road condition requires supple suspension to hide the imperfection.


This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Sep 27 2012, 09:41 PM

not total waste my dear. I can feel the difference in terms of power delivery and engine smoothness. Just that wallet says otherwise.

Last time, when I called Careline for my battery problem, a guy from a shop in Old Klang Road came all the way to my place in Kepong. I asked him how come not someone nearer is coming, because I waited more than 1 hour for him. He told me a reason that I am not going to share, and I think it is valid. You guys take a guess.

P/S: It has something to do with what SKYjack has mentioned, which is the outsourcing of the support job.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Oct 11 2012, 01:16 PM

220 is too low for a heavy car running on a 45 profile tyres. put around 240kPa (cold) should be ok.

It is not only about brightness.

First of all, retrofitting HID bulb to a halogen headlamp is illegal. Secondly, if you really want to use HID bulb, please also modify the headlamp from reflector type to projector type. Reflector type headlamp is simply NOT SUITABLE to be fitted with HID bulb, since it does not provide a clear cutoff of the light beam, and will dazzle incoming traffic.

24km/L, not possible at all.

It is very easy to calculate. You start your journey with a full tank, and after u finish your journey, you pump full tank again. Just add up all the fuel ups, including the last fuel up after you finish your journey. That is how much fuel you have used in total. No need to divide by 2.

BTW, my 308 VTi can survive a trip from KL to Penang and back in one full tank. About 800km for 55L of fuel.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Dec 13 2012, 10:54 PM

For warming up of the engine during cold start, just drive gently before the engine temperature reaches the optimum level. For 308/408 it should be 90 celcius. Mine will take 2-3 minutes to reach that.