Huh... following Hyundai Elantra footstep?
Normally by end of the years most of the car brands will give promo as people will wait for next year manufacturing date, no?


This post has been edited by Kanasai79: Aug 30 2012, 11:45 AM

Hi, am a new owner... Just got my car right before raya.. going to have my 1st inspection by this Saturday.....


2.0
1. kejusan - blue
2. Poyoguy - blue
3. Gill71. - blue
4. AHY20 - bronze
5. prody - black

Turbo
1. SKYjack - blue
2. sbd - blue
3. kevinboey - white
4. din5353 - black
5. shyguy_shah - white
6. chinana - white
7. Kndfz. - Black
8. Termibait - white
9. OrangBiasa - White
10. Rick.st.lim - blue
11. Jfcheong - Black
12 Austin -Silver
13. Bearheart - black
14. net_mave - blue
15. klteoh - blue
16. parasolx - black
17. mojonish - grey
18. jonathkhoo - grey
19.orangkpg - white

Yeah, forgot to list in since the list was few page back before.

2.0
1. kejusan - blue
2. Poyoguy - blue
3. Gill71. - blue
4. AHY20 - bronze
5. prody - black

Turbo
1. SKYjack - blue
2. sbd - blue
3. kevinboey - white
4. din5353 - black
5. shyguy_shah - white
6. chinana - white
7. Kndfz. - Black
8. Termibait - white
9. OrangBiasa - White
10. Rick.st.lim - blue
11. Jfcheong - Black
12 Austin -Silver
13. Bearheart - black
14. net_mave - blue
15. klteoh - blue
16. parasolx - black
17. mojonish - grey
18. jonathkhoo - grey
19.orangkpg - white
20. JessYeo - Silver

And about the PERMANON, which seller provide the best price and service? Shall we make a FB Fan Page to discuss more?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2487293
Good review that worth to read.

Unbiased review. This model was designed for the China market,hence a lowered standard. Certainly finess is missing in many areas. I like the writer have owned several contis, so many areas were alarmimg for me too. Would certainly like to see an update on the TCU from Peugeot to solve the adaptive gearbox issue. While it works silky smooth,FC could be better! Peugeot has to initiate this from Aisin ( gearbox manufacturer ).

I hope NASA has the will or capacity to understand the issue at hand! This actually is an opportunity for NASA to better public opinion! I hope they take advantage and not exhibit 3rd world mentality!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 30 2012, 08:10 PM

The points actually not much affected me. This is more to the fineness while assembling the car. They should giving more care on these tiny miny things~ The most attractive to me is the point number 3

I totally agree that the 6 speed gear is not SMART enough, it drag till around 2500rpm to change to the next gear. Its ridiculous it dragging the gear at 2200rpm while I am moving at a slow speed!! End up I was like the commenter changing the gear manually!

I noticed this too comparing my car with wife's forte. Forte changes gear below 2k rpm...unless of cos u revv the engine in order to reach century speed.

As for point no. 3, I didn't give much observation on at what rpm the low gear shift take place on my 4 speed 408 but if I'm on light footed mode, the gear change seems to occurs at lower rpm, not like when I rammed the pedal. The only thing I notice is it will be quite 'jerky' when gears are shift at lower gear when I'm in light footed mode. Is it because the adaptive gearbox has adapted my aggressive way of driving?

Anybody can elaborate more on 'BUMP STEER' as pointed out in point 5 of the thread?

Elantra's price increased already? I thought it was just a sales gimmick.

This post has been edited by kejusan: Aug 31 2012, 01:38 AM

yes, i agree. when at D mode. it rev >2.2-2.5 in order to change to next gear. i think with this condition. fuel consumption will also increase but it is really good when u overtaking other car. Now, most of time i'm driving with M mode. i do agree it will good for fuel consumption cos i change to next gear with >2k rpm every time.

Elantra price increase by RM3k

This post has been edited by jfcheong: Aug 31 2012, 09:09 AM

Hmm, I find it weird that 408's 6-speed gearbox is not "smart". I own a 508, and I suppose it uses the same gearbox as any other 6-speed peugeots out there. Mine can shift at any point it wants. In fact, it has the hill descend control thingy also. Everytime I let go the throttle on a downhill slope and step on the brakes it will downshift on its own to help slow the car. Quite useful coming down from places like genting as I dont have to play around between D1-D2-D3 like I used to do in previous cars

I'm actually quite surprised about your jerky gears. You did mention this earlier. By now the adaptive gearbox should have settled in to your style of driving. Mine a 6 spd,was not jerky from the start,but has now settled to my driving style with silky smoothness. To be frank, I really don't know when my gears are changing. I only realise gear change if I happen to notice the drop in RPM. However, your is not a serious problem. Might need a TCU remap. See the SC at your convenience.

BUMP STEER effect is simply the vibration and jerks you feel on the steering wheel when run over speed bumps. These speed bumps are usually laid continuously to slow down vehicles at accident prone areas. 

The vibrations and jerks appear more pronounced on the turbo models due to the sports tuned suspension.  I'm sure even the NA models will feel this,but being a softer suspension,it may not be as pronounced. The writer however suggests a defect in the manner the wheels are fitted on the 408s. Will be interesting to see if it is so!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 31 2012, 10:53 AM

Like I've mentioned before, the slight 'jerky' only happens during heavy traffic when I ramm the pedal slowly until it shift from 1st to 2nd gear, otherwise, if driven normally with not much obstruction on the road, the gear change would be smooth. Other 2.0 owners would like comment on this matter?

Anyway, a friend of mine who owns a 1.8 FD1 Civic comments that the gear change on my 408 is smooth. It's somehow comforts me but will highlight this during my first service. I'll 'reset' the gear box and will observe the gear change from an unlearned gear box after that.

For the BUMP STEER, I didn't feel any vibrations on the steering.

If you don't feel any vibration running the speed bumps,then there may be something wrong with your car. Some of these speed bumps ( speed breakers ) are quite vicious. The intention is to force the driver to reduce speed.

What I mean is there're no vibration on the steering. For sure there's vibration on the car, that's the time when the annoying rattling sound is more obvious

well, just back from ford showroom after test drove again pug 408 1.6t.

ford are launching all new ford focus sport. and sport plus mid of sept.

with RM115888.00 for Ghia titanium and
RM128888.00 for Ghia titanium plus

with so many features like ford always do.

but the SA claim that this 2.0L Petrol Direct Injection l4 DOHC 16v, FC can do somewhere 6.5L/100km 100% highway and mix 5050 about 7L/100km. cos it's direct injection.
but now i just noticed pug 408 1.6 thp also using direct injection what....

any comment on the handling wise?

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Added on August 31, 2012, 6:55 pmbtw, i went to mazda showroom to see mazda 3 2.0 again.
oredi sien with the mazda interior which i feel not bad b4.
no offence to m3 fans. cos the judgement may vary for anyone.

beside that found that there's torque vectoring control in new focus.
do 408 have this feature? or it's similar to traction control?

This post has been edited by ken_twh: Aug 31 2012, 06:55 PM

They've already announce the selling price? And its very close to elantra's price. SD surely have a lot of confidence on elantra. If the price for titanium is 116k, it would be quite a hard decision for me to make between 408 2.0 or ghia titanium. But then, ghia titanium lacks some of the spec that's available in 408 2.0 and the good gadget is only available on plus spec. But then, the safety features is abundance on the focus and very much worth it IMHO.

go test drive bro. in mid sept. then u may know u bought the right car. lol

F Focus is well known for it's good handling. As to whether it is better than the 408t, I have to test drive it to say. It being a smaller and possibly lighter car, I would expect the FC to be slightly better. However the FF is a compact car and too tight for my liking. The drivers side feels rather clusterfobic,especially with the huge centre console panel. Instrument panel is not as classy as the 408t.

My choice will still be the 408t. Maybe if FF TDCI were to get to Malaysia,then I would have a hard time in choice between the TDCI and 408t.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 1 2012, 12:36 AM

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...=RT.ATC.CAR.BTW

i think it's fair enough the comment of both 308 and ff. (old model)

As the contest progressed, we found that the Focus to be a far smoother car to drive than the fidgety 308. When we showed the car some twisted roads, we had inadvertently opened the door for the Focus to mount a spectacular comeback into the contest. As far as ride & handling is concerned, the Focus completely outclasses the 308.

Now, this is not to say that the 308 isn't a competent handler. It is. Shod with 225/45 R17 tyres, and with a stiffer suspension setup compared to the Ford, the 308 can, on some occasions, corner harder and faster than Focus. But this comes at a serious price - comfort.

While it is probably fair to assume that the crowd looking at a 308 Turbo is likely to put cornering prowess above comfort in their list of priorities, but the fact is that the Focus sacrificed a lot less comfort than the 308 to achieve similar levels of handling levels.

Ford's insistance on using the renowned Control Blade multi-link rear suspension instead of the 308's torsion beam setup sees the Focus reaping handsome dividends in its ride and handling balance. Surface irregularities that are dismissed with nonchalant ease by the Focus are transmitted, undiminished, into the cabin of the 308.

No doubt, the 308 is more addictive to drive on the straights, but on twisted roads, the car you'd want to take is the Focus. Where the 308 launches itself from corner to corner with the mountain of torque at its disposal, the Focus just flows along with remarkable smoothness. The only complaint on the Focus is that its steering lacks weight compared to the 308 - which is great for parking, but a little less inspiring when cornering hard.

Our pick between the two is that the Focus is the better driver's car. Its torque deficit against the 308 did not prove to be an issue, but its transmission certainly did. The Focus still wins this portion of the contest, but the hesitant and dimwitted nature of its gearbox prevented a more emphatic victory.

at the end. still pug 408 win our heart.

btw. my fren tell me 308 is still consider cbu france but 408 cbu china.

the SA sales talk 408 ckd gurun and import part from france is bull shit?