it may be a 4-speed transmission but it is a newly engineered one. it is called AT8 instead of the old AL4 which most peugeot fans are familiar with. Should me more responsive as well as economical than the old AL4.

Kenso, u very rajin ah creating that C-segment comparison table in your blog.
But i'd like you to re-check one thing in that table, the car width.
Peugeot likes to INCLUDE the side mirrors when they quote their car width.
Other manufacturers measures width at the widest point MINUS the side mirrors.

I realize this odd habit by peugeot & citroen when i was surveying for an MPV.
Peugeot quote 5008's width as >2000mm. That's wider than the Starex (1900+mm)!!!
Impossible right? Peugeot/citroen cheats.

Yes the 408 is here. I was looking to get a used 407, but as soon as I got wind of the 408 and that too at $110k, just couldn't wait to see it in real life. Come launch day I was the early bird googling the 408 as if it was my prise calf.  You know what? I actually got disappointed. The car looked like a pumped up Vios. Man....that was a major setback for me,it was no where near the sleek  looks of the 407. However locked my disappointed emotions and took the turbo for a spin. This is when the smile came back to my face. The power,handling and feel were amazing. The 407 has very good handling, but with this car, Peugeot has raised the bar. The feedback by electro hydraulic steering is so precise, and has been tuned to the right tautness. There's heck of power ready at the tap to kick serious ass! The car is packed with various safety features which is important when you unleash those wild horses. I'm sold, the 407 may be a great looker,but the 408 takes you to another dimension in driving dynamics!Made my booking for the turbo today!

Sad to know that oil leak still not solved, my fren 307 also having this problem.

What did Peugeot says about the oil leak? What did they rectified to stop the leak for your 1st repair? Did they compensate you for this problem as you are without a car for use?

What other potential problem? Please share. Thanks.

Woh! Scary...

I can understanding the oil leaking thing which you can detect looking the the puddle of oil in your car porch, but the rest, how did you detect the valve and timing chain problem? Does the problem happen bad enough to ground your car in the middle of the road?

And also depollution system faulty error, which is what many 308T owners complain, what effect does it have on the car?

My many, many moon ago Wira had a clutch problem, and ground me in the fast lane of LDP...and everyone passes by me stop and stare and make me feel like a mass murderer who has just killed an entire village 

I feel for you man, what a RM170K car, and only 6 months later....

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Added on May 28, 2012, 8:38 pm
Me too, ah...thanks. If they can offer the "sport" mod to the the car (e.g. smoke headlamp, rear spoiler, and diffuser (black) with twin wind pipe) in a white/silver colour bod, I am sold...

Dunno, can get an after market HU upgrade with DVD+AVN, GPS, and 2 more speaker/woofer or not? If yes, I would say the best car of the C-segment in terms of performance vs price, but definitely not going to be low FC...so cannot get best of both worlds I guess...

All the low FC C-segment cars does not seem to have impressive performance at low torque/pick-up (yet to see review on Civic 2012 and Focus 2012 at low to mid-range torque comment)

Hi bro, was told I'll get the car in 3 weeks. No price discount. Free Gamin GPS and $400 voucher for windscreen tint. Didn't ask for anything else!
As far as segments go, both these cars are kind of untraditional. . 407 being 2 litre falls in D but has a rather tight interior. The 408 NA also 2 litre falls in C,but has quite a comfortable and large interior. So want criteria sets the segments,especially when these 2 are concern.
Anyway my choice more than comparison was purely made on financial basis. I had looked at and in mind a 09 407 costing $90k. The 408 NA is priced at $110k. In reality the difference is much less than the apparent $20K and this is how it goes.
 Loan on old cars are higher,thus the monthly payments will differ very marginally. The 407 is 3 years on, no warranty and will have maintenance issues that I've got to stick out on top of the 90k!!! The decision was to get the 408 NA as it is brand new,5year warranty, at the end of loan period the margin would be even more narrow by virtue of lower interest on 408 loan. I know it's apple and orange here, but my point is value for money! 
Now all this was decided behind the arm chair. Inreal life and after the test drive, logic flew out of the window. Just got hooked on the turbo

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Added on May 29, 2012, 12:59 pm
Tks for the warning bro. Yes I did a fair bid of research, am aware of the problems on the former THPs. From that time had decided to bypass the THP and actually go for the NA. I don't think all THPs are problematic and I'm quite surprised with the problem on your 508. 
On the other hand the EW10A engine has been quite reliable and as you know it's been tweaked for the 408 NA.This is the one I had set my eyes on,not the THP. 
However the THP apparently has been give a serious make over and puts out a few more horses than the one in the 508. I understand all the previous issues are successfully addressed, or at least they say! It was the damn test drive of this engine. It was like a bug bit me and I was in a trance,I just wanted it, nothing else made sense! 
Here's my take on the whole story. It's not the same THP. 5 year warranty is comforting.I've taken the plunge,hopefully all goes well. I am prepared for the unexpected! I think if you are not prepared for some pain then a conti is not your game! Plenty of plain Janes in the market! Nevertheless I appreciate your input and hope the same fate does not bestow upon me,touch wood! Hope you plug your leaky fella!

Peugeots are good to drive! You're sooooo damn right on this one!

What is ESP and what is 4 speed?

I drive pretty fast with my 308T, corner like crazy and the ESP only once lite up when I was going 30km/h (!) in Tesco parking after it rained.

4 speed is very crude compared to 6 speed, but then, what is 6 speed? I can only say it gives smoother acceleration/deceleration. The FC between 308T4 and 308T6 are very similar, cornering is also a problem with 6 speed...since they are so many gears, you will be changing it like crazy to find which is best for what. Tiptronic isn't actually similar to a manual stick....far from it. 4 speed cornering is easier, just drop 1 gear. And most importantly, 6 speed gearbox service cost is 10X more than 4 speed.

Could it be a test drive car?

Peugeot has invested heavily in Malaysia putting up a state of the art robotic assembly plant in Gurum. The intention is to make Malaysian assembly plant cater for the whole of ASEAN. Certainly this spells a lot of product confidence. With the parent company having a strong foot here, things should only get better for Peugeot brand of cars.
As for the THP, I understand it's been given a serious make over addressing reliability issues. The new Prince seems to be behaving!

Is your the 156THP 6 speed?

I live in Ampang too, why didnt u bring your car to KL Volcare? Much nearer.. Or they cant do it?

You mean those type R wiper lifters? I also wanna know.

Anyway, during car wash, I've seen ppl purposely on the wiper until it is vertical and quickly off the engine, that way can clean the bottom windscreen easier.

Dont forget that your 2.0L model doesnt come with ESP. Any emergency at that speed will render your car uncontrollable. Not worth the risk in my opinion. But doesnt mean you should speed with ESP either.

I think it's price factor.People are still wary over THPs bad reputation. Hopefully that's all in the past.Had I known about the 508 turbo deisel,I would have waited!

I believe there's about 30 of here,NA & THP. Everyone is pretty good with sharing info! How many 508s?

What i meant was the risk of someone losing control increases as the speed increases. Yes incidents can also happen at low speed. ESP works at all speeds and if ure in an emergency situation, the ESP will help but the reason why u still see cases of cars going out of control despite having ESP is simply because ESP has its limitations and will not navigate for u. You still need to control and manuever the car and if u dont do it the correct way then ure still gonna crash.

But making a general statement that ESP wont work at higher speeds is totally incorrect. Btw, does the Lancer come with ESP? I dont think so.