Thanks for pointing that out Jessy. My mistake. I didnt know. I thought 6 speeders was pretty normal these days for European makes. OK that explains the higher RPM.

Whats the RPM readings for the 408T?

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Added on December 30, 2012, 12:50 pmU fully agree with her and yet she is talking about gearbox while u are talking about engines?

And is it also kindergarten knowledge that when a car judders while braking, that means there is a tyre defect as you claimed before? Not sure which kindergarten u went to but i think the general knowledge is that when u have juddering during braking then its obviously due to something thats coming into contact with the brake pads. The tyres themselves dont come into contact with the brake pads rite? Or did your kindergarten teach u this as well?

Im glad u turned down the offer to represent the 408 owners here. Nasim would have walked all over you guys with you as a leader and your limited knowledge. If u want a good leader with decent knowledge about cars (even though he isnt driving a 408), then ask Sleepy. He drives a 508 but still should be a much better choice. Even EnergyAnalyst seems a decent enough guy to represent your group.

Leaders for such groups should not just be ppl with time on their hands. But most importantly must be ppl with strong technical knowledge about cars in general. Check out the K5 Facebook Fan Club page. The group of guys there know almost A-Z about the K5 even to the wiring details. They are even able to provide possible solutions to Naza Kia mechanics on problems. Many of them there are from professional backgrounds and some are quite senior as well. You need charisma, strong commitment, sound technical knowledge and the ability to argue technically and maturedly to deal with organisations like Naza, Nasim, etc or else ure just gonna get blown away.

Even as i speak, a group of them are on the way to Red Cube PJ to help a member whos K5 is stuck there with some poor repairs done. 1 of those members actually drove down from Penang solely for this purpose.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 30 2012, 01:02 PM

Thats our 408 owners matter, does that really bother u?

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Added on December 30, 2012, 12:55 pmGuys~ wanna ask, after I turn off my engine, the fan still running. Then i will hear a huge "TAK" sound, is that normal?

This post has been edited by jfcheong: Dec 30 2012, 12:55 PM

I dont need to be bothered in order to comment and i will comment as i see fit.

i guess its normal since that sound happen to mine too.

by the way, automobiles peugeot invested nuts here. all the money came from the local guys. not like the germans who built their fame on lots of euros.

You are becoming a second Rooney to me.

I agree with cybermaster98 on this. Trying to match their speed isn't a big problem if they are staying at a constant pace. It's a matter of how fast they can pull away from you if they want to and whether if its safe to continue driving at such high speeds. Driver courage is also another factor, I think people would tend to tense up more once they hit 180km/hr and above. Trying to maintain such speeds on our highway is definitely not advisable, if I were any of those drivers, I would simply just let you pass rather than having you tailgate me at such speeds.

What about the robotic assembly plant in Gurun?

nasim's investment.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Dec 30 2012, 10:37 PM

Meaning?

At some point I saw Rooney's face on some potato chips brand and have completely stopped buying it since then (being an Arsenal fan myself).
All this talk about K5 in this thread (of which I have 0 interest in) is putting such a negative association in my mind that I won't consider buying it in the future.

I dont think the potato chips brand would have minded losing 1 buyer the same way Kia wouldnt mind losing 1 potential customer. Btw, its Liverpool who are arch rivals for MU not Arsenal.

send it for tunning to get abit more outta the car

go test a K5 or try having 1 over the weekend...

the engine and gearbox is so crude and un-refined. the throttle input is so laggy and the car needs time to get up to speed.
you cant just floor the throttle as the engine will make alot of racket up front and yet you are not going anywhere despite the racket...
(granted the one i have was the one with the theta-II engine, yet to be given a NU engine version)

the ride and handling is rubbish even when compared to the preve i had the week earlier...
body roll is so uncontrolled...
the steering is hydraulic but i cant feel the road... weird..


heck even the paddle shifters felt flimsy... when u look deeper, things like exposed subwoofer and mechanical parts in the trunk, tactility of the buttons comes to fore...

cant comment on the tyre noise as it is subjective because u can always change to a quieter tyres to lower the noise...
but the one i have is stock nexen with roughly about 20% used and boy the tyre is noisy..

apart from space, nope until they improve on it, this will not be recommended to my friends or family. this is precisely why camry is still selling so well despite sporting such a low spec...

personally, i find it the best way to drive the K5 is to slowly get it up to speed. this car is for u to take your time and enjoy the journey as the seats are truly supportive. just dont get anywhere in a hurry.

i am getting a 408 NA for use over the weekend in the coming weeks.
lets see how it goes.

nuts i tot u said K5 godly

Is there any engine mods for the 408T/308T?

Eg. Stage 1 ECU remap etc? Stage 2 etc... That sort of thing.

What kind of power can you expect after a remap is done?

Wow, fallen ill with fever the last 2 days and just come online this morning and astonished to see so much activities have gone while I am shivering and sweating out the GERMS. I dunno what u do for living kcng, but boy fascinated by your ability to get cars over weekends like that to test drive. Mind sharing what is your secrets? But looking at your brutal comments on the award winning K5... I am really really afraid what u may say about 408NA. Have mercy?!?!

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Added on December 31, 2012, 11:05 amOk, thanks . Good to know.

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Added on December 31, 2012, 11:10 amAt the risk of making my frens my foes . I am afraid Cybermaster98 has a point. Pls don't shoot me I am still sick

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Added on December 31, 2012, 11:19 amLook people. just as how he has called me a decent bloke. I can say the same for Him. He has the decency to admit his mistake when he had made one... So just chill, you should be chilling----you are the one at the driving seat of none other then PUG408. Yet he is the one that is behind the wheel of the award clinching k5.

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Added on December 31, 2012, 11:25 amAgree, it is mostly Nasim's dough and sweats. Peugeot may be just the QC and Initial Training? VW puts in more dough and sweat but they are responding differently country by country with their DSG gearbox Issues and to smaller extend even the TSI engine from what I have read.

No offence for my Turbo Engine Bros, that is why I dare not risk it with VW Turbo or Peugeot Turbo engine just yet, heard far too many of stories of prematured carbon built up problem, some even call it kencing , I still cannot cast both VW and Peugeot vote of confidence in having upgraded and fixed the problem but VW seemed to have not quite achieved that despite all the call backs and updates and Peugeot/BMW/Mini Prince Turbo Engines is similarly having a lot of ill feedbacks but...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/faulty-v...rope-46766.html

http://www.chinaautoreview.com/pub/CARArticle.aspx?ID=7459

http://www.autolatest.ro/auto-editorial/pr...-petrol-engine-

http://www.justanswer.com/uk-car/6ys33-peu...dtm-engine.html

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Dec 31 2012, 12:39 PM

How come I don't feel the aboves when I test drove the K5 many many times over?

Drive feel is subjective. But Korean engines does indeed sound rather harsh when you push it hard. Engines from the Japanese still feel more... smooth? and the sound also isn't as rough when you push it hard.

They both get the job done in the end though, but really - what you pay is really what you get.

I think you better stick to talking about cars.