Hi All,

This is what I observed :

1) After collecting my car on Friday, I fill up oil myself since the SA said he didn't pour oil for my new car ( I didnt demand on this anyway). So once I pour oil , I saw the panel showing faulty engine error and also the engine sign still in amber light. I was actually shocked to see this and wanted to return the car. But the it was too late actually (almost 6pm) , So the SA told me to come the next morning to check. But after reaching home and later I start the car again and suprisingly I dont see this anymore. Then the SA called me the next morning to inform that this is due to the oil change. I poured the RON 95 but the engine was originally designed for RON 97 it seems. So thats why the error message appear for the first time but it wont appear anymore after this. This is what mentioned by the SA. I believe many here didnt notice this probably due to initial oil was poured by SA for you guys and the SA should have noticed this but not you.
2) The second observation was the brake.While driving back after collecting car, I found the steering is shaking whenever I brake. I told the SA and he mentioned that this is due the new brake and need to check if need to put some oil. So I m going to the centre later . At the same time my brother's father in law who also bought peug 308 turbo had the same problem. He bought the car earlier in the year and also had the same issue of steering shaking when he brake. According to him , the brake became normal after reaching 1k mileage. So I m ahooping the same. Did anyone have this issue?

So far this 2 things I observed so far. The rest I m just learning by refering to the manual. Too many things to digest on the electronic part

As such , what is the rating for the 408T? Any better what you have highlighted in your video?

You filled oil at the engine or tank? Why need oil change on brand new car? Who told you this engine is tuned for RON 97?Who told you brakes need oil,brakes and oil are like fire and water!

Sorry to say that your SA probably need to get back to school and do more homeworks. We been pump Ron 95 since we get our car and its still works fine.

Hi Skyjack,

Let me clarify here. The oil I mean was petrol. This is what I observed when I pour petrol in the tank on friday. I got the error message of "engine fault" when I first time pour petrol. My car mileage was 30km and there was already indication that no fuel in the car.
Anyway, I just came back from the SC just now and this time I spoke to the mechanic there. He said for the first time , u will see this error but not to worry. This is due to petrol poured was RON95. But he said I can remain pouring the RON 95 after this and the error wont appear again. And yes indeed no error appear since then(since friday)

For the brakes, the mechanic told me that my car was in the garage for quite long time and was not used and hence the brake was quite rusty. He showed me the brake and I can see some rust in the brake. And he said I can drive for some time and the brake should get back to normal. If not he said , he will change the brake related parts

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Added on December 24, 2012, 6:14 pmYes you are correct . My SA does not know much technicallty of this car. He admit that he does not know because he just joined Peug 4 months back. So I am not taking his words much.Thats why I refered to the mechanic over there just now and start to questions all my doubts. I got his number too to call directly rather than the SA

This post has been edited by sivananthan: Dec 24 2012, 06:14 PM

Honestly I don't have answer to that . When I posted the link I never say 408 scoring better... I said it is interesting thing when Toyota Camry and Prius have such low safety revelation. I only know 408 is not sold in us and Europe so they don't get IIHS or E-NCAP rating or test. However in china they do have a CNCAP scoring and 408 appeared at the top
http://www.japanautopages.com/blog/peugeot...by-chinese-ncap

For further reading for 408 safety features and what have been done extra or reinforced differently to it, read this

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/peugeot/2010-...08-ar84131.html

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Dec 26 2012, 07:43 AM

I'm having problem to connect my I phone 5 via Bluetooth, anyone facing the same issue? any situ can guide me? thanks yah

Already shared somewhere in the earlier pages on iphone's bluetooth prob which is to ask the SC to update the bluetooth firmware of the 408 (iirc)

Anyway i didnt have much leisure time to go to the SC for such small probs so my workaround was i disabled the a2dp streaming protocol and only use the handsfree protocol. Did this for my jailbroken 4s using a cydia app, but i dont think u can for urs..

First of all, the 408T is NOT designed for RON97. If the mechanic actually told u this then he too doesnt know much about the car. Even if u use Ron95, there shouldnt be any engine check light appearing whether its first time or otherwise.

Secondly, rusty brake disks are normal especially for cars that have been left in the open long. So you get a rough idea that your car wasnt all that new. Anyway it aint a problem. Juddering while braking is an indication of either wrongly positioned brake pads or warped disks. If its a quick fix, then it was probably the pads. But if u continue to experience juddering while braking, then get the disks replaced.

Actually, I've known a few new Puggies who encountered this .... and all of them does not report the same issue cropping up again after the first pump

Hehehe.......for a moment I thought you have cooked your engine by pouring oil into your fuel tank or RON 97 into your engine!Glad it was just a misrepresentation. As for the brake judder,it could be defective tyres. It is possible you were unfortunate yours came from a bad batch. Check the tyre pressures first.

The brake disc are made of high tensile steel,unlike stainless steel, they are prone to rust. Stainless steel is too smooth and has poor brake action. The rust that you see on the disc is only surface rust which will brush away very quickly upon braking. Under no circumstance let the SA oil the disc! This will lead to NO brake action!!!

Welcome bro,enjoy your ride!

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Added on December 25, 2012, 9:52 amBro kenso,now that you have divorced your Pug,is VW more satisfying?Btw good to see you come here once a while to give suggestions! I'm sure your years of Pug experience is valuable.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Dec 25 2012, 09:52 AM

+1 from me, Dear Mr Kensomuse!

How could under inflated tyres cause brake juddering?

There is no connection between tyre inflation and juddering. Juddering problems are either related to the brakes themselves or the disks.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 25 2012, 06:41 PM

by the way guys, the peugeot club of malaysia is looking for someone who owns a 408 to be a rep for the 408 group in the club, anyone keen to sign on?

Hi Cybermaster,
Thanks Dude...U cleared my doubt..For the petrol issue,I think what u say is correct. Whether first time or otherwise , the warning error shouldn't appear. Anyway, I just hope I dont see anymore same warning error after this.
On the second issue, yes I believe my car was old stock but of coz I dont mind that as long the car is performing as the new one. And I believe the only problem here was the brake juddering only between old stock and new stock ( by the way old and new different is few months only). The mechanic told me if the juddering continue for more than 1K mileage , he told me to send to SC and get replaced. So it is related to pads and disks. I will keep an eye on this . Even if the judddering stops , I still want the replacement when doing inspection at 2.5k.
Besides that , what can be anticipated for the old stocks car? Actually I was a bit upset when I know the car given to me was old stock after the SA told me the car was in the garage for quite some time. But as long the car never give any problem , I wont have any complain. So far I didnt encounter anything else except the 2 issues discussed earlier

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Added on December 25, 2012, 10:06 pmSo I m not the first driver to face this issue right? I knew about this that someone earlier should have face this based on the SA and the mechanic input

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Added on December 25, 2012, 10:18 pm

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Added on December 25, 2012, 10:19 pmYes I agree with u too on this

This post has been edited by sivananthan: Dec 25 2012, 10:19 PM

Hi Siva
No problem in doing high speeds before 1st inspection. Even the manual does not give any 'break in' speed. These new engines are designed to run right away. Yes the car is so stable that is easy to do those speeds without realizing. On top of that,turbo is very additive,the more you push the she wants......hehehe! Even 200kmh comes on effortlessly! Truly a marvelous engine!

If the brake judder persist,have it inspected and update us. In the mean time check the pressures as a precaution. If the tyres are defective,you possibly could land into more problems with an over inflated tyre!

i was in the impression nowadays all new cars don't really need to do 'break-in' and 'engine warm up' in the morning

Following up on that thread... here's the C-NCAP page for 408.

http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/app/cncap/eng/pzs...g.jsp?pzid=2848

There is another Latin NCAP which I thought should have 408 crash test result there but nope it is not there either.

Someone suggested looking at Europe NCAP and AN NCAP from down under for 308 as a rough guide. But not sure that will suffice ?!

Breaking in a car is not whether u drive fast or not. You can drive fast (but surely not at speeds exceeding 150kmph for the first 1,000km at least). But whats important is to avoid rapid acceleration and sudden stops. Gradually build up speed and gradually brake when required. Its the high sudden revs which harm the engine. Yes modern engines dot really require a breaking in period compared to older models, but fluctuating sudden high-low revs are surely not recommended for any car. Break in the car well the right way for the first 1,000km and you will have really good engine response for the longer term.

As for warming up the engine, well that actually does more harm than good.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 26 2012, 11:34 AM