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QUOTE(sleepy @ Dec 18 2012, 02:09 PM)
About malaysians demanding highest spec at lowest price, I dont think this applies. Malaysians are all about badge recognition, ie Toyota and Honda. There are quite a number of different marque which gives higher spec at similar price line, but still people go back to T/H laugh.gif Just take the first batch of Vios J for example with no airbags, no ABS etc etc and it still sells like hotcakes. I'd imagine if Toyota came out with a bicycle with the Toyota and Camry emblem on it, our streets will be flooded with bikes now laugh.gif
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yup true about t & h buyers but for emerging brands, the customer expectation is different.

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Dec 18 2012, 02:09 PM)
About malaysians demanding highest spec at lowest price, I dont think this applies. Malaysians are all about badge recognition, ie Toyota and Honda. There are quite a number of different marque which gives higher spec at similar price line, but still people go back to T/H laugh.gif Just take the first batch of Vios J for example with no airbags, no ABS etc etc and it still sells like hotcakes. I'd imagine if Toyota came out with a bicycle with the Toyota and Camry emblem on it, our streets will be flooded with bikes now laugh.gif
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I suppose it also boils down to marketing. Just open up a newspaper or go to any website, you'd see adverts by both T&H just about everyday. On top of that, they really do have a number of service centers around the country that can be seen prominently. From personal experience, Toyota really does offer very good customer satisfaction when you send in your car for servicing, I only had 1 mediocre experience with them during my 7 year of Toyota ownership which speaks volume. It's the same with Honda, the overall experience is smooth. Most people whom I speak to are largely ignorant in regards to the engine or features of the car and those are the people who represent the silent majority who rely a lot on word of mouth and experience from parents & friends and no surprises, a lot of them hold T&H in very high regard.

At the moment, Peugeot or VW or any other marques will need to invest more into their service infrastructure and customer service if they hope to break stranglehold held by T&H. A huge marketing blitz is required as well to improve the perception of these marques in regards to reliability and resale value.

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3 news that makes it hard for Peugeot to make any future plan in near horizon, which means the time for 208 arrival in Msia and 301 launches any where in the world may be delayed ???

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE8...121024?irpc=932

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.c...s-peugeot-india

http://www.freep.com/article/20121113/BUSI...ions-break-down
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post Dec 18 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 18 2012, 02:44 PM)
I suppose it also boils down to marketing. Just open up a newspaper or go to any website, you'd see adverts by both T&H just about everyday. On top of that, they really do have a number of service centers around the country that can be seen prominently. From personal experience, Toyota really does offer very good customer satisfaction when you send in your car for servicing, I only had 1 mediocre experience with them during my 7 year of Toyota ownership which speaks volume. It's the same with Honda, the overall experience is smooth. Most people whom I speak to are largely ignorant in regards to the engine or features of the car and those are the people who represent the silent majority who rely a lot on word of mouth and experience from parents & friends and no surprises, a lot of them hold T&H in very high regard.

At the moment, Peugeot or VW or any other marques will need to invest more into their service infrastructure and customer service if they hope to break stranglehold held by T&H. A huge marketing blitz is required as well to improve the perception of these marques in regards to reliability and resale value.
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marketing alone wont help much. what is needed are cars that have less issues that people can and will talkabout leading to a 'fear' syndrome and to really improve the service network. only by having enough service centres where people can just drive in to get service will be a big help without the hassle of making appointments months ahead. that and word of mouth alone (and word of mouth these days means the internet) will definitely raise the profile of the brand. as it is, the faster they launch new cars (if the new cars are sound, you can even have monkeys working on them and they will still be fine) that erase the memories of those afflicted with past issues, the better. but changing mindsets takes time, lots of time combined with constant positive messages from owners.

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The forth piece of not so good news...http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/bmw-claiming-psa-owes-it-50-million-ar136752.html
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 18 2012, 02:44 PM)
I suppose it also boils down to marketing. Just open up a newspaper or go to any website, you'd see adverts by both T&H just about everyday. On top of that, they really do have a number of service centers around the country that can be seen prominently. From personal experience, Toyota really does offer very good customer satisfaction when you send in your car for servicing, I only had 1 mediocre experience with them during my 7 year of Toyota ownership which speaks volume. It's the same with Honda, the overall experience is smooth. Most people whom I speak to are largely ignorant in regards to the engine or features of the car and those are the people who represent the silent majority who rely a lot on word of mouth and experience from parents & friends and no surprises, a lot of them hold T&H in very high regard.

At the moment, Peugeot or VW or any other marques will need to invest more into their service infrastructure and customer service if they hope to break stranglehold held by T&H. A huge marketing blitz is required as well to improve the perception of these marques in regards to reliability and resale value.
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T&H&N has a lot of service center *around Malaysia*. The products are well know both my motorists and *mechanics*. The problem with Peugeot, Ford, Renault etc is that they do not have much presence outside of Klang Valley.

When people think about these Euro brands, they think about:

1. high spare parts price (some are high, some are similar to Japs)
2. problem with spare parts availability (a bit true for those outside Klang valley)
3. problem finding expert about these cars (very true outside Klang valley)

The solution, I dunno. It is like chicken-egg thing.

The best these Euro brands can do is what they are already doing. Giving quality, value for money products compared to the Japs. You see a lot of Korean cars around KL and Klang valley. However, outside of Klang valley many a still very worried about Korean cars. But with many KL ppl driving balik kampung with Korean cars, the perception will change, albeit slowly. That is what the Euro brands must do. Give quality service and quality products and your customers will be your best marketing tool.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 18 2012, 02:44 PM)
I suppose it also boils down to marketing. Just open up a newspaper or go to any website, you'd see adverts by both T&H just about everyday. On top of that, they really do have a number of service centers around the country that can be seen prominently. From personal experience, Toyota really does offer very good customer satisfaction when you send in your car for servicing, I only had 1 mediocre experience with them during my 7 year of Toyota ownership which speaks volume. It's the same with Honda, the overall experience is smooth. Most people whom I speak to are largely ignorant in regards to the engine or features of the car and those are the people who represent the silent majority who rely a lot on word of mouth and experience from parents & friends and no surprises, a lot of them hold T&H in very high regard.

At the moment, Peugeot or VW or any other marques will need to invest more into their service infrastructure and customer service if they hope to break stranglehold held by T&H. A huge marketing blitz is required as well to improve the perception of these marques in regards to reliability and resale value.
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Well, toyota is certainly cutting corner here and there. Having owned the previous vios, I have to say it has really solid build-quality and has zero rattle after 6 years on the road. Sound insulation is quite impressive also for a sub 80k car (E-spec). The same cannot be said about the current Vios. A 2009 car and it's already a rattlesnake now, and not to mention you can hear the engine so loudly sometimes you'll wonder if there's any insulation at all.

I also noticed a similar trend in Altis and Camry as well. The previous Altis has some soft touch material on the dash, but the current one is hard cheapo painted plastic. The Camry 2 generations back (the one with unnecessarily huge butt) is probably the best of the bunch. Built quality and sound insulation is top notch. Before I got the 508, I went to a T showroom to have a look at the 2.4V, and while fiddling around with the interior, the cover for the cup holders just snapped. Pfft. Gone are the days when T is associated with quality shakehead.gif

The only valid selling point for T now is probably the network of service centers. Resale value will probably be top notch because most local buyers chose to burrow their heads and anything that's not T or H will automatically be dropped off the consideration list. They dont even have to do any marketing because the perception of "quality" is pass down from generation to generation laugh.gif


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QUOTE(sleepy @ Dec 18 2012, 04:42 PM)
Well, toyota is certainly cutting corner here and there. Having owned the previous vios, I have to say it has really solid build-quality and has zero rattle after 6 years on the road. Sound insulation is quite impressive also for a sub 80k car (E-spec). The same cannot be said about the current Vios. A 2009 car and it's already a rattlesnake now, and not to mention you can hear the engine so loudly sometimes you'll wonder if there's any insulation at all.

I also noticed a similar trend in Altis and Camry as well. The previous Altis has some soft touch material on the dash, but the current one is hard cheapo painted plastic. The Camry 2 generations back (the one with unnecessarily huge butt) is probably the best of the bunch. Built quality and sound insulation is top notch. Before I got the 508, I went to a T showroom to have a look at the 2.4V, and while fiddling around with the interior, the cover for the cup holders just snapped. Pfft. Gone are the days when T is associated with quality shakehead.gif

The only valid selling point for T now is probably the network of service centers. Resale value will probably be top notch because most local buyers chose to burrow their heads and anything that's not T or H will automatically be dropped off the consideration list. They dont even have to do any marketing because the perception of "quality" is pass down from generation to generation laugh.gif
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Added on December 18, 2012, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(sanadi @ Dec 18 2012, 04:34 PM)
T&H&N has a lot of service center *around Malaysia*. The products are well know both my motorists and *mechanics*. The problem with Peugeot, Ford, Renault etc is that they do not have much presence outside of Klang Valley.

When people think about these Euro brands, they think about:

1. high spare parts price (some are high, some are similar to Japs)
2. problem with spare parts availability (a bit true for those outside Klang valley)
3. problem finding expert about these cars (very true outside Klang valley)

The solution, I dunno. It is like chicken-egg thing.

The best these Euro brands can do is what they are already doing. Giving quality, value for money products compared to the Japs. You see a lot of Korean cars around KL and Klang valley. However, outside of Klang valley many a still very worried about Korean cars. But with many KL ppl driving balik kampung with Korean cars, the perception will change, albeit slowly. That is what the Euro brands must do. Give quality service and quality products and your customers will be your best marketing tool.
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Service networks have a lot to do with the distributorships. It works hand in hand. Behind T and Perodua is UMW. Behind Honda, Proton, Suzuki and even VW is DRB-Hicom. Behind Ford and Hyundai is Sime Darby. Behind Peugeot, Kia, Chevvy is Naza. Catching up on service and spare parts is hence depending on not just how rich are these local partner but how willing these companies are to put in the dough and the sweat to makes the whole deal works. A lot of that has to do with is firstly...is motor biz these companies core business or at least big contributor to their revenue. So UMW is, DRB-Hicom...yes but...Proton just going to eat in too much of their time and they will probably leave both honda and vw to their capable hand and Suzuki to their own device. Naza? I think so especially when it comes to motor biz being their core and how they have invested in Peugeot and Kia ventures but can't say the same for Chevrolet . Sime Darby ? don't bet your socks in it! The worst of the lots. They have not done Ford justice IMHO.

Behind Mazda is Berjaya a working partnership that has sell numbers ---from 991 units sold in 2008, Bermaz (a convenient combi of both companies' name i.e. BERjaya-MAZda) shifted 6,131 units in 2011, not a small feat by any account. So much so that it led to this :
http://paultan.org/2012/09/11/mazda-malays...d-cx-5-in-2013/

Sounds like a second Naza story? My worry is only as
Berjaya is kind of like Sime Darby...too diversified of biznesses and motor is not their core...but still i will bet on this partnership as THE ONE TO BEHOLD.

Mitsubishi with EON is... Well their declining sales is testament to how well THAT works!


Added on December 19, 2012, 1:58 am
QUOTE(lowpro @ Dec 18 2012, 03:20 PM)
marketing alone wont help much. what is needed are cars that have less issues that people can and will talkabout leading to a 'fear' syndrome and to really improve the service network. only by having enough service centres where people can just drive in to get service will be a big help without the hassle of making appointments months ahead. that and word of mouth alone (and word of mouth these days means the internet) will definitely raise the profile of the brand. as it is, the faster they launch new cars (if the new cars are sound, you can even have monkeys working on them and they will still be fine) that erase the memories of those afflicted with past issues, the better. but changing mindsets takes time, lots of time combined with constant positive messages from owners.
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Like the way you put in... Get new car in fast... If they are solid even monkey can service and not break it... Hahaha

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 18 2012, 05:48 PM)
Service networks have a lot to do with the distributorships. It works hand in hand. Behind T and Perodua is UMW. Behind Honda, Proton, Suzuki and even VW is DRB-Hicom.  Behind Ford and Hyundai is Sime Darby. Behind Peugeot, Kia, Chevvy is Naza. Catching up on service and spare parts is hence depending on not just how rich are these local partner but how willing these companies are to put in the dough and the sweat to makes the whole deal works. A lot of that has to do with is firstly...is motor biz these companies core business or at least big contributor to their revenue. So UMW is, DRB-Hicom...yes but...Proton just going to eat in too much of their time and they will probably leave both honda and vw to their capable hand and Suzuki to their own device. Naza? I think so especially when it comes to motor biz being their core and how they have invested in Peugeot and Kia ventures but can't say the same for Chevrolet . Sime Darby ? don't bet your socks in it! The worst of the lots. They have not done Ford justice IMHO.

Behind Mazda is Berjaya a working partnership that has sell numbers ---from 991 units sold in 2008, Bermaz (a convenient combi of both companies' name i.e. BERjaya-MAZda) shifted 6,131 units in 2011, not a small feat by any account. So much so that it led to this :
http://paultan.org/2012/09/11/mazda-malays...d-cx-5-in-2013/

Sounds like a second Naza story? My worry is only as
Berjaya is kind of like Sime Darby...too diversified of biznesses and motor is not their core...but still i will bet on this partnership as THE ONE TO BEHOLD.

Mitsubishi with EON is... Well their declining sales is testament to how well THAT works!
It isn't that simple. The distributors also have to answer to the marque headquarters or regional office if they don't meet sales quota or is getting a lot of negative feedback from customers. Of course this also depends on how active these car marques are themselves in pushing their distributors.

Toyota is very active in the region. They determine the spec, variant and conduct all the necessary research needed before launching vehicles. For example, the latest Camry 2.0 and 2.5 spec are virtually identical throughout the ASEAN region, differences come with variant types offered, naming and of course pricing. It's almost the same story with Honda. Both companies have their regional office and factories in Thailand, so countries around the region will report there. UMW is the distributor, so they determine pricing but it is likely they also need to conform to the standards set out by Toyota in order to keep their distributorship.

For the Koreans, I think KIA has a more active direct influence here compared to Hyundai while Ford has recently only started taking a more active interest here because of the success of the Fiesta and the launch of their new Thai assembly plant. Volkswagen, probably same story, they've only started becoming more active in the region themselves in the last few years hence all the aggressive push. The previous distributor didn't do too well with the marque and got kicked away, that's the reality of the business.

At the end of the day, it really still depends on how active and how directly involved these car companies are themselves. To be frank, the bigger focus around ASEAN will be on Thailand and Indonesia, everywhere else is pretty much chum change or just another training ground for them.
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QUOTE(sleepy @ Dec 18 2012, 04:42 PM)
Well, toyota is certainly cutting corner here and there. Having owned the previous vios, I have to say it has really solid build-quality and has zero rattle after 6 years on the road. Sound insulation is quite impressive also for a sub 80k car (E-spec). The same cannot be said about the current Vios. A 2009 car and it's already a rattlesnake now, and not to mention you can hear the engine so loudly sometimes you'll wonder if there's any insulation at all.

I also noticed a similar trend in Altis and Camry as well. The previous Altis has some soft touch material on the dash, but the current one is hard cheapo painted plastic. The Camry 2 generations back (the one with unnecessarily huge butt) is probably the best of the bunch. Built quality and sound insulation is top notch. Before I got the 508, I went to a T showroom to have a look at the 2.4V, and while fiddling around with the interior, the cover for the cup holders just snapped. Pfft. Gone are the days when T is associated with quality shakehead.gif

The only valid selling point for T now is probably the network of service centers. Resale value will probably be top notch because most local buyers chose to burrow their heads and anything that's not T or H will automatically be dropped off the consideration list. They dont even have to do any marketing because the perception of "quality" is pass down from generation to generation laugh.gif
Well said. I agree completely! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 19 2012, 12:04 PM)
Well said. I agree completely!  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Dec 19 2012, 11:19 AM)
It isn't that simple. The distributors also have to answer to the marque headquarters or regional office if they don't meet sales quota or is getting a lot of negative feedback from customers. Of course this also depends on how active these car marques are themselves in pushing their distributors.

Toyota is very active in the region. They determine the spec, variant and conduct all the necessary research needed before launching vehicles. For example, the latest Camry 2.0 and 2.5 spec are virtually identical throughout the ASEAN region, differences come with variant types offered, naming and of course pricing. It's almost the same story with Honda. Both companies have their regional office and factories in Thailand, so countries around the region will report there. UMW is the distributor, so they determine pricing but it is likely they also need to conform to the standards set out by Toyota in order to keep their distributorship.

For the Koreans, I think KIA has a more active direct influence here compared to Hyundai while Ford has recently only started taking a more active interest here because of the success of the Fiesta and the launch of their new Thai assembly plant. Volkswagen, probably same story, they've only started becoming more active in the region themselves in the last few years hence all the aggressive push. The previous distributor didn't do too well with the marque and got kicked away, that's the reality of the business.

At the end of the day, it really still depends on how active and how directly involved these car companies are themselves. To be frank, the bigger focus around ASEAN will be on Thailand and Indonesia, everywhere else is pretty much chum change or just another training ground for them.
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That may be true, I agree that it depends on how the marque themselves put in the equal if not more effort. It still takes 2 to tango, marque + local distributor, so the local distributor is undeniably part of the influence.

History has shown how some local distributorships changed hand because the local partner was blamed for not playing their willing parts. take the recent case in point:PSA Peugeot Citoen with Brookland.

However the automaker themselves being in Auto industry is first and foremost a very challenging field to be in. Being automaker, they are very vulnerable to economic downturn, Nissan + Renault Alliance ,Peugeot (now having a somewhat debatable alliance with GM) has all been through that and when the automaker themselves are facing issues, and can't inject more fund in marketing or whatever, the perseverance of the local partner can makes a lot of difference. Exception : VW did it all by themselves... still doing it now and hence a harder road to make for themselves, but what to do when you have the busy DRB Hicom having something else on their NATIONAL agenda.

Of all the old established local car distributor company, Tan Chong was the one that has persevered, owing partially to how they have perservered and wheathered the storm. In comparison, the Penang based equally old Boon Siew/oriental (now surviving only as Kah Motor) has to surrendered its sole distributorship entirely since 2011 to allow formation of JV of DRB-Hicom and Honda Japan. Holding merely 15% of the new Honda Malaysia, now they only survived as Kah Motors being one of the many Honda dsitributors.

What is the reason?

Step into any Tan Chong's Nissan showroom, SA will welcome you with very above the market trade in value for your old ride, give you further discount/tinting, some time thrown in some gadgets, etc. etc. Is Nissan the one giving them or is it Tan Chong, who is placing the dough and sweat it in? Nissan? all they have thrown in may be just the standard warranty like all japs do.

Boon Siew/Oriental? possibly a victim of political agenda but they have also been resting on their laurels , i.e. counting solely too much of Honda doing all the hardwork, but who can blame them? in Malaysia Honda sell fast, just slower then Toyota.

Now look at SD-Ford, and Naza or Nasim-Peugeot. Do you know the 5 year warranty UNLIMITED MILEAGE from Nasim for Peugeot car is actually 3 year by Peugeot and +2 by Nasim? although no free maintenace. Did SD do the same? i think not, so instead give combi of 3 y warranty+3 year main free LIMITED to 60km

First 3 years/60 km maintenance is perhaps 3-4k for Ford (focus) and Peugeot (408), so SD give u that 3-4k, stick with standard 3 years /60k warranty (possibly by Ford anyway) while Nasim give you 5 years unlimited mileage.

Considering the chances of warranty claim for the next 2 year after 1st 3 initial years is higher, i will gladly maintain my Peugeot from my own pocket than leave it at risk of any warranty issue after the 1st 3 years, why, with Msian high car price, we tends to take long pay back in car loan, and the hot+humid weather here has strange effect on durability of our ride.

All the above of coz is only IMHO. Cheers tongue.gif wink.gif



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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 19 2012, 02:26 PM)
That may be true, I agree that it depends on how the marque themselves put in the equal if not more effort. It still takes 2 to tango, marque + local distributor, so the local distributor is undeniably part of the influence.

History has shown how some local distributorships changed hand because the local partner was blamed for not playing their willing parts. take the recent case in point:PSA Peugeot Citoen with Brookland.

However the automaker themselves being in Auto industry is first and foremost a very challenging field to be in. Being automaker, they are very vulnerable to economic downturn, Nissan + Renault Alliance ,Peugeot (now having a somewhat debatable alliance with GM) has all been through that and when the automaker themselves are facing issues, and can't inject more fund in marketing or whatever, the perseverance of the local partner can makes a lot of difference. Exception : VW did it all by themselves... still doing it now and hence a harder road to make for themselves, but what to do when you have the busy DRB Hicom having something else on their NATIONAL agenda. 

Of all the old established local car distributor company, Tan Chong was the one that has persevered, owing partially to how they have perservered and wheathered the storm. In comparison, the Penang based equally old Boon Siew/oriental (now surviving only as Kah Motor) has to surrendered its sole distributorship entirely since 2011 to allow formation of JV of DRB-Hicom and Honda Japan. Holding merely 15% of the new Honda Malaysia, now they only survived as Kah Motors being one of the many Honda dsitributors.

What is the reason?

Step into any Tan Chong's Nissan showroom, SA will welcome you with very above the market trade in value for your old ride, give you further discount/tinting, some time thrown in some gadgets, etc. etc. Is Nissan the one giving them or is it Tan Chong, who is placing the dough and sweat it in? Nissan? all they have thrown in may be just the standard warranty like all japs do.

Boon Siew/Oriental? possibly a victim of political agenda but they have also been resting on their laurels , i.e. counting solely too much of Honda doing all the hardwork, but who can blame them? in Malaysia Honda sell fast, just slower then Toyota.

Now look at SD-Ford, and Naza or Nasim-Peugeot. Do you know the 5 year warranty UNLIMITED MILEAGE from Nasim for Peugeot car is actually 3 year by Peugeot and +2 by Nasim? although no free maintenace.  Did SD do the same? i think not, so instead give combi of 3 y warranty+3 year main free LIMITED to 60km

First 3 years/60 km maintenance is perhaps 3-4k for Ford (focus) and Peugeot (408), so SD give u that 3-4k, stick with standard 3 years /60k warranty (possibly by Ford anyway) while Nasim give you 5 years unlimited mileage.

Considering the chances of warranty claim for the next 2 year after 1st 3 initial years is higher, i will gladly maintain my Peugeot from my own pocket than leave it at risk of any warranty issue after the 1st 3 years, why, with Msian high car price, we tends to take long pay back in car loan, and the hot+humid weather here has strange effect on durability of our ride.

All the above of coz is only IMHO. Cheers tongue.gif  wink.gif
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Really? I stand corrected then . thanks for pointing it out. But err why limit to 200k km ? SD also limit its 5 year warranty /capped at 300k km for Hyundai when Naza gives 5 year unlimited for both peugeot and Kia? anyway Competition is good!!!!!

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29.RON408 - Aster grey
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:27 PM

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Tomorrow will be my 1st 2500km inspection. Anybody can share their experience (what should n what shouldn't).

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28. samchia - White
29.RON408 - Aster grey
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tell them anything you are not happy about, e.g. rattling noices, jerky gear, any button that does not work, can/cannot synchronize your smartphone? They may not fix all the issues and you may not have the time to wait. .. what you will normally get is just some basic fluid checking/top up. but getting them to put in all those raised up issue in their working/service order is good as a record of complaint that may be useful later. Make sure whatever they owes you (if there is still any) pending not delivered when you get your car first time is also obtained. Do share with us if you are happy after your experience tomorrow. smile.gif tongue.gif
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tell them anything you are not happy about, e.g. rattling noices, jerky gear, any button that does not work, can/cannot synchronize your smartphone? They may not fix all the issues and you may not have the time to wait. .. what you will normally get is just some basic fluid checking/top up. but getting them to put in all those raised up issue in their working/service order is good as a record of complaint that may be useful later. Make sure whatever they owes you (if there is still any) pending not delivered when you get your car first time is also obtained. Do share with us if you are happy after your experience tomorrow. smile.gif tongue.gif
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Hi there,
Thanks for the advice.

My bulb (RHS) burnt on the same day I collect my car. Just realized it on that night. Ask my SA and she told me the SC will replace it for free. I don't know wether it's covered under warranty or not.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 19 2012, 03:03 PM)
Really? I stand corrected then . thanks for pointing it out. But err why limit to 200k km ? SD also limit its 5 year warranty /capped at 300k km for Hyundai when Naza gives 5 year unlimited for both peugeot and Kia? anyway Competition is good!!!!!
Nasim is 3+2 right?
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[quote=cybermaster98,Dec 19 2012, 05:25 PM]Nasim is 3+2 right?
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Added on December 19, 2012, 5:41 pm[quote=RON408,Dec 19 2012, 05:13 PM]
tell them anything you are not happy about, e.g. rattling noices, jerky gear, any button that does not work, can/cannot synchronize your smartphone? They may not fix all the issues and you may not have the time to wait. .. what you will normally get is just some basic fluid checking/top up. but getting them to put in all those raised up issue in their working/service order is good as a record of complaint that may be useful later. Make sure whatever they owes you (if there is still any) pending not delivered when you get your car first time is also obtained. Do share with us if you are happy after your experience tomorrow. smile.gif tongue.gif
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Hi there,
Thanks for the advice.

My bulb (RHS) burnt on the same day I collect my car. Just realized it on that night. Ask my SA and she told me the SC will replace it for free. I don't know wether it's covered under warranty or not.
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If they charged u for the light bulb for 1st 2500 km inspection. Then tear down their 5 year warranty claim banner before u pay them. Some folks here have their battery change FOC because it is unnaturally to have light bulb burnt so fast and battery so per-maturely burnt out


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:25 PM)
Nasim is 3+2 right?
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I believe 3+2 is for early birds like me, even have to top-up to get it. Haha. So unfortunate of me, this is what I get by purchasing their flagship model at launch. Tsk tsk tsk

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