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 ㊕ ㊕(≧◡≦) ♠ ♠ ♠Proton Prevé V3♠ ♠ ♠(≧◡≦) ㊕ ㊕, ► Official Discussions for Proton Prevé

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dares
post Apr 8 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:50 AM)
For turbo, yup, as long as its reach 2k-4k rpm, it doesnt matter, only depend on what speed u want to reach. If want to reach 100kmh@century sprint, yup just press at 2k-2.3k rpm is just enough to gauge the century sprint coz torque us max, n if not mistaken, cfecvt@2k rpm=96kmh+- while 2.3krpm=110kmh+-. Only cfe manual, then pedal to metal rules apply, but since the torque is flat from 2k-4k rpm, to gauge century sprint, just need to rev up to 4k rpm, then shift coz even after shifting rpm is drop, but it still above 2k rpm which all maximum torque is available. Unless for na@ old type turbo, dont have flat torque, pedal to metal is the best method.

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post Apr 8 2012, 11:59 AM

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So we buy some sort of rpm controller to block throttle at max 4100rpm fuh...Better Fc and ex5
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 8 2012, 11:59 AM)
So we buy some sort of rpm controller to block throttle at max 4100rpm fuh...Better Fc and ex5
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Hack ECU to rev cut at 4.1k ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:05 PM

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hmm, looks like lowest is around 2.8% for 7yrs 10% DP

HLB - 2.78%
PBB - 2.8%
MBB - 2.83% always slightly higher than other bank
AMB - 2.85%

any other bank i left out?


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:50 AM)
ha..ha.. Your friends driving turbo with cvt ??? If u read closely, all above is for na version of cvt.

For turbo, yup, as long as its reach 2k-4k rpm, it doesnt matter, only depend on what speed u want to reach. If want to reach 100kmh@century sprint, yup just press at 2k-2.3k rpm is just enough to gauge the century sprint coz torque us max, n if not mistaken, cfecvt@2k rpm=96kmh+- while 2.3krpm=110kmh+-. Only cfe manual, then pedal to metal rules apply, but since the torque is flat from 2k-4k rpm, to gauge century sprint, just need to rev up to 4k rpm, then shift coz even after shifting rpm is drop, but it still above 2k rpm which all maximum torque is available. Unless for na@ old type turbo, dont have flat torque, pedal to metal is the best method.

Yup, it is 15 inch disc. Knp, xpercaya ke :-). Rim is 16 inch.
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wow mat u are the man... if you have a workshop everyone here will go support you thumbup.gif

then need to educate my gf once i got this car.


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:10 pmbtw can TS prepare a checklist for car collection.

this gonna be a long list, due Prevé has so MANY features.

This post has been edited by stargate8: Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:12 PM

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ohh yea.... the banker told me the 2.8% is islamic financing and for conventional it will be slightly lower ~ 2.79 or 2.78%


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post Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:12 PM)
ohh yea.... the banker told me the 2.8% is islamic financing and for conventional it will be slightly lower ~ 2.79 or 2.78%
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oh so 2.78 possible
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 10:58 AM)
the Preve car alone with standard equipment weighs 1.3 tonnes, not 1.7 tonnes  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:21 PM

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Any buyer from Penang?
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM)
1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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nvm only few hundred kg, 1.6CFE = 2.0 performance no problem at all.

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post Apr 8 2012, 12:24 PM

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If ppl dun believe the power of Turbo, try to out run VW Jetta first 300meters laaa . 1400cc engine only weight 1.4tons, your $100K T&H 2000cc engine also no power arr? see which engine will konk or condemmn first?
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM)
1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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It is a larger car than the Waja, in fact, it is one of the largest in it's segment. And all those features (ABS, ESC, Turbo, Etc. etc.)? they all add weight to the car.

Plus Waja is about 100kg lighter only and runs on a 1.6. The Preve's turbo, once engaged, is claimed to be equivalent to a 2.0 engine.

That's why people keep saying, get the CFE, forget about the IAFM variant.

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 8 2012, 12:32 PM
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:28 PM)
It is a larger car than the Waja, in fact, it is one of the largest in it's segment. And all those features (ABS, ESC, Turbo, Etc. etc.)? they all add weight to the car.

Plus Waja is about 100kg lighter only and runs on a 1.6. The Preve's turbo, once engaged, is claimed to be equivalent to a 2.0 engine.

That's why people keep saying, get the CFE, forget about the IAFM variant.
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equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif


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post Apr 8 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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Under 2k RPM (Before the turbo boost), it still runs as a normal 1.6 engine. 2k RPM with the CVT, according to mat79, can go up to 93 km/h. So for city driving, most of the time you won't be boosting, except for overtaking, slope climbing and the occasional spirited driving.

In my experience with my Saga CVT, I can drive the car under 2k and reach 85-90 km/h, even during mild acceleration I can still keep it under 2k, so it is perfectly driveable in urban settings.

Of course once you reach highway speed, you will be boosting all the way, but running on turbo doesn't mean it is not fuel efficient.

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post Apr 8 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 8 2012, 09:07 AM)
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why even you dont have confidence in proton? you also think they will cut cost so fast?

my opinion,
1st batch = iron out engineering problems based on user feedback / improvement based on feedback
2nd batch = more polished product, not low cost watered down version doh.gif.

if even supporters have doubt in the quality of second batch and beyond product from proton, i must say, proton has a tough time ahead.
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its not proton at all...every business did business the same way
the cost for 1st batch is always more expensive than other batch with lowest profit....2nd batch onward, they will start to cut cost/localize part to lower the cost to maximize the profit
every business did it the same way
1st batch parts are always better and more imported than localize
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post Apr 8 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 11:50 AM)
respect, i just wanna wait till car come out then test then book
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Hahaha..last time i booked my Forte also before the launching date without seeing the actual car in the flesh..even the full specs for the Forte 2.0 also yet to be announced that time. But i'm not simply gambling buying this car (Forte) that time, i actually did a lot of research & read many reviews from US, Aussie & Singapore before i make up my mind to got for it. I booked very earlier that time in order to secure the first hundreds of CBU unit directly from Korea thumbup.gif

But for Preve, it's more like a gambling to me..be like a white mice. No reviews..nothing..really put my faith again on Proton this time after the Wira aeroback & the Waja. Hopefully the Preve will prove itself...


Added on April 8, 2012, 1:10 pm
QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 11:53 AM)
as i was saying last time ,u  probably take the preve ur wife takes the forte
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whistling.gif ...hehe

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post Apr 8 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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If you use the torque, then yes it is equivalent to 2.0. If not, then it is 1.6 FC. So, advantages to CFE against the 2.0 NA.
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post Apr 8 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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A engine spining at 2,000 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve 205Nm Torque

OR

MIVEc 2.0P engine spinning 4,250 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve MAX 197Nm Torque


which engine need more fuel? Which engine will fly faster INITIALLY?

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post Apr 8 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA
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post Apr 8 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Apr 8 2012, 01:18 PM)
A engine spining at 2,000 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve 205Nm Torque

OR

MIVEc 2.0P engine spinning 4,250 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve MAX 197Nm Torque
which engine need more fuel? Which engine will fly faster INITIALLY?
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well...if u compare it like that
i would say the CFE is faster but the mivec will be more fuel efficient
after all, mivec is a more advance engine...campro is like old fashioned outdated engine with a low boost turbo afterall
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 8 2012, 01:28 PM)
well...if u compare it like that
i would say the CFE is faster but the mivec will be more fuel efficient
after all, mivec is a more advance engine...campro is like old fashioned outdated engine with a low boost turbo afterall
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4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1. tongue.gif

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