haha save time talking with him lolx...
$23,000 in US can get 2012 Camry there. But here already over RM150k lor.

want to know how is his reaction when he finds out the actual price here

This post has been edited by kevintth: Mar 16 2012, 05:24 PM

oi don play play, last time my dad give that car to company worker, i always play also, press clutch rev rev can burn tyre man. very fast also hahahaha.

This post has been edited by Kalist0: Mar 16 2012, 05:26 PM

i bought first batch savvy MT when they put TUV sticker on it, have been driving it for over 6 years now, no major problem. The only problem i noticed is the glovebox handle is so fragile i need to change it during the warranty period.

but of course lah those wear and tear parts i changed when needed.



This post has been edited by faizalmzain: Mar 16 2012, 05:35 PM

Bro, my FLX SE dashboard rattle since day one, CVT mounting noisy, drumbrake noisy since second week, replaced twice, engine jerk like mad in the morning. So dont tell me I underestimate Proton. As much as i like the 1.6 liter with CVT powertrain, it is new tech and all, proton products still leave much to be desired. My car is currently 2 months old, btw.

Good if the P321a proves to be leaps and bounds ahead of their current line of products, I will consider it seriously. But now, with the car that I am driving, you expect me to take a leap of faith and believe that proton has improve drastically overnight?

Like I said, ill believe it when i see it.

mine potong ok aje lol

must be a Toyota u bought... hmm...

Alesi : I Belif....

I was merely stating i dun believe the first batch will be completely problem free. I also said other carmakers have problems with their new cars. I never said proton alone have this problem.

Which part did i underestimate proton?

just test drive when it's available and you can decide later on. After all it's you that will pay for monthly installment.

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I intend to. For the record, i have high hopes for this car, but not high enough to buy the first batch lor.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 05:45 PM

Bro.. how do u foresee it after the car 3 years old still as good like some other manufacturer who have proven record... ?

like wat u said.. overnight... thing not going to happen... esp after such fantastically history of... .. .. ..

Exactly.

Fuuhhh. Dowan to rant anymore. Hope nobody misunderstand me.

too many defensive guy here... cannot help it.. this is proton thread...

if dowan to buy den dont buy. if wanna buy den go book it. so simple. in d end, its you who is payin, not other forumers.

what car is tat??p231a lol!!!!

i sold my proton because they cannot solve the noisy irritating brake problem..not to mention rattling sounds..if no sound i can live with it..

erm, by the way,i'm not powertrain engineer what soever, but beeing informed that, engine is not tune to fuel euro 1,2,3,4,5@6, but according to ron(octane rating). Some engines cant use low euro compliant fuel because it needs to have cleaner fuel to run,not because not being tune to that.

Any euro 5 engine can run using any euro compliance fuel, regardless euro 1,2,3,4,5@6, just the matter of tech n design like gdi is quite a sensitive engine especially for high sulphur content fuel n low octane rating fuel. Prince engine in malaysia, no matter the mpi or gdi version is euro 5, tsi also euro 5. But still can use euro 2 compliance oil. But if euro 2m is not available, vw wont bring their tsi here(yup tsi is euro 5 n 6 capable) coz their gdi need certain maximum sulphur that they can take inside their engine.

Engine management is tuning towards octane rating not fuel euro grade. U still need to know there are many carburator cars that non euro emmision compliance engine, still running well in our euro 2m fuel without any tuning, except to those who needs to run atleast ron97 need to retune to prevent from knocking.

Remember, before euro 2m fuel, malaysian fuel is non euro at all, so, what the hell happened to euro 2 compliance engine available here n bla..bla..bla.. N what happened to the cars that non euro compliance running on euro 2m fuel without any tuning in ems, without changing the catalizer n etc? Why they can run the compliance car with non compliance petrol previously n how currently they also can run non compliance car with compliance petrol?

The question is from me n the answer above is from the engineer, n he actual smile when i ask question about euro compliance fuel n euro compliance engine.

Questions are good, but sometimes questioning something beyond our capacity, yup, can google here, n google there, but u cant develop euro 5 compliance engine or car's engine just by googling or watching youtube or can we? :-). If can,just closed down all engineering course in uni n rnd. Ha...ha... Just joking coz sometimes i also questioning beyond my comprehension. And like people always talking about co2 output when talking about euro emission, but actually is not about co2, its about something else.

About wira,waja pedded dash, i believe that its already been banned by EPA by any new makes, so they used new one like rubbery type soft plastic or new pedded that used fabric,alcantara@leather than pvc, but thats quite expensive. So, many opt for hard, for cheaper alternative.

That why when old lancer mk1 vs lancer mk10, which one has soft material n which one doesnt. Same as civic ef, eg, ek vs civic es, fd, which one has better soft dash?

My conclusion is, people questioning that because it is a proton. Mr littlefire, have u been questioning all other makes about their euro compliance engine in malaysia like currently avanza engine which its power b torque being reduce due to euro 4 compliance? Why they mentioned euro 4 when malaysia jpj rules on emmision is euro 2 n our fuel is euro 2m, what the hell they are trying to do mentioning the engine is euro 4, reduce the output, why just not retain the euro 2 one coz u cannot use euro 4 engine compliance with euro 2 fuel, stupid japs engineer. Is that correct my statement? Ops forget the stupid das auto engineer, we want euro 2 tsi that supposed to have better power than europe version, but why u give us euro 5 engine, stupid german engineers. So,if that the case, then i rest my case :-).

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Added on March 16, 2012, 6:27 pmdun worry dares, u give fair review. N everybody need to see it, drive it to believe it. No need to believe it before u see n drive this baby.

By the way dares, maybe u can share a bit about ur rattling problems so that some of us in here can help in given out some sollution,if possiblelah. Even if it is a small@little prob, sometimes it takes longer times than big ones coz little things hard to find compare to little one. But who knows, in this forum, u can solve ur probs. No harm trying.

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Added on March 16, 2012, 6:34 pmah,for engine jerking in the morning, i dunno whether u do this or not, warm up the engine at least up to normal bar coz it seems like amt n dsg (clucth based coz even this one is cvt,but still clutch based)prob which need the oil of gbox to be warm up properly so that it can have a proper flow. Normally just need to do this in the morning only during cold start@ left the car for long time, maybe more than 24 hours without using it.

If already practised that,maybe need report for further investigation, if not, just try out to do that, look whether the morning jerk problem solved or not.

This post has been edited by mat79: Mar 16 2012, 06:34 PM

"SkyActiv Technology"
isn't that the company that claim their auto gearbox more superior than CVT and DSG

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Added on March 16, 2012, 7:00 pmlast time when i said better quality
its not 1st batch of every FL/release
its the 1st batch of the model
like in saga...1st batch of saga BLM...not FL and FLX
becuz after BLM...they're already starting to cut the cost to maximize profit/minimize cost already
becuz every FL, alot of thing is similar...so they didn't make much changes instead just put new things like CVT into it
so "my recommendation only"...if want buy..buy the 1st batch of p3-21a...not the FL/SE
my saga BLM until now no dashboard rattling
minor problem sure got...but fixed by warranty already

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Mar 16 2012, 07:00 PM

i just saw pricelist for proton p3-21a on mykeretabaru.blogspot. i don't know this will be final price on launch or not?

This post has been edited by Slekerz: Mar 16 2012, 09:01 PM