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Design flaw for example the CVT overheat issue in the early batches of FLX. Some may be harmless annoyances, some could be major inconveniences or even life threatening. Warranty or not, they have caused the owners grief and possibly bodily harm.

This is not limited to Proton, mind you, many carmaker have teething issues with early batches of new cars. It is not a QC issue.

I admire those who have faith in Proton and DSZ. But the truth is their track record is tainted, and that's a fact. If you say that their first batch will be flawless, I will believe it when I see it. I would gladly eat crow if I am proven wrong.

Yeah.. I'm almost 80% sure of getting a 09' 407 until I saw the recent spec and video of the new proton ( I'm fell in love with turbo car torque after i test drive 308T but due to lack of boot space, i have no choice to divert to a bigger 407)

http://paultan.org/2012/03/16/proton-p3-21...#comment-646908

Another proof that Proton only give oversea ppl better spec...

Australia spec..

The entry-level GX gets a naturally-aspirated engine and manual transmission, with a continuously variable transmission (CVT) available as option. The high-spec GXR will feature the turbocharged Campro CFE engine and will be CVT-only.

The CarAdvice report adds that the GX will come with six airbags and electronic stability control (ESC). The GXR adds on a leather-wrapped steering wheel with paddle shifters, among other features..

Now i know why ANCAP teorily can get 5-star, it got 6 air-bags!!! While we Malaysian only get 4 for highest spec & 2 for low spec + no ESC.. 

So now i can bloody shoot the Proton Marketing ppl de.. Coz confirm bluffing ppl.. The safety spec for Australian market is even advance compare to local! WTF!

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Design flaw for example the CVT overheat issue in the early batches of FLX. Some may be harmless annoyances, some could be major inconveniences or even life threatening. Warranty or not, they have caused the owners grief and possibly bodily harm.

This is not limited to Proton, mind you, many carmaker have teething issues with early batches of new cars. It is not a QC issue.

I admire those who have faith in Proton and DSZ. But the truth is their track record is tainted, and that's a fact. If you say that their first batch will be flawless, I will believe it when I see it. I would gladly eat crow if I am proven wrong.

quoted for future use

407?  I am waiting bro ar188 come in to tell the story... 

How to prove "flawless" even merc/bmw etc also got lemon.

What's the horror story???

turbocharged, yeah.. I know 407 is good.. but only cons is I'm getting a 2nd hand unit with unknown issue and expired warranty..that's the reason holding me back now

relax i just want him to eat a crow and not underestimating malaysian product

same la, new car got ??? issue, old car got ??? issue

but 407 is proven la, not bad.

I know.. if new car got issue can claim warranty.. old car got issue with warranty expired need to repair sendiri and i know 407 spare part ain't cheap
Err.. better stop mention 407 here else later bash by others from diverting the topics.. I post my concern in autoworld peugeot forum... if you have any advise, do drop by there and comment

the 407 pakai apa gear box?

AL4.. 4 speed tranny  tats also another minus point

AL4.. 4 speed tranny  tats also another minus point

same la, new car got ??? issue, old car got ??? issue

but 407 is proven la, not bad.

eh.. so how?  Waja is B segment or C segment? 

                      P3-21A Waja        Persona
Length            4,543mm 4,470mm 4,477mm
Width            1,785mm 1,740mm 1,725mm
Height            1,524mm 1,420mm 1,438mm
Wheelbase            2,650mm 2,600mm 2,600mm
Front Track    1,542m 1,475mm 1,475mm
Rear Track            1,542mm 1,470mm 1,470mm
Luggage                506L 408L 430L
Kerb Weight      1,340kg 1,235kg 1,245kg

eh.. so how?  Waja is B segment or C segment? 

                      P3-21A Waja        Persona
Length            4,543mm 4,470mm 4,477mm
Width            1,785mm 1,740mm 1,725mm
Height            1,524mm 1,420mm 1,438mm
Wheelbase            2,650mm 2,600mm 2,600mm
Front Track    1,542m 1,475mm 1,475mm
Rear Track            1,542mm 1,470mm 1,470mm
Luggage                506L 408L 430L
Kerb Weight      1,340kg 1,235kg 1,245kg

is it the one assembled by NAZA? omg their JBL speaker is sex!

u go test drive already right?

the car handles better than 308.

and the 4 speed doesnt feel like a limit as well.

this is a car that when you see a bump, u step on accelerator.....and, just 2 faint sound, pup pup.

One more thing, Waja had to be developed over 5 years 

P3-21A took only 2 years 

I was hoping to get some poison from Peugeot forum in autoworld but end up being injected poison from proton P3-21A forum pulak!! 

Bufung.. you mean AL4 is much cheaper cost in long run than AL6?

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Added on March 16, 2012, 4:47 pm

Not yet... but i sat in it before and the seat is like OMFG!!!
Will go to 2nd dealer and test drive this few weeks if possible