then u should have said performance, your statement could easily point toward the physical sensor is the same.

what do i need to defend, what did i said wrong? i never said DXO is wrong, and you are just create those words by yourself. i also can make statement of you myself, "why not you defend urself saying because fuji can make fujinon's (MF lenses) then they able to make MF sensor". but i dont need to, its pointless. accusation is pointless.

ever since early this year, some spokeperson from fuji said fuji 'may' consider a fullframe compact, something like the rumored "rx-1" which looked so much like a photoshopped XPro1 (fishy). and since then, massive rumor saying fuji FF this FF that. but not a single FF lens design is ever patented since. and also during Xpro1, fuji said their APS-C sensor is designed to beat FF, and its obviously paid marketing that reviewer claim the sensor beats FF (and they just love to use 5D2 as comparison, poor 5D2)... its like nikon marketing claim of D800 beats MF!. my point is, if Fuji would claim their APS-C can beat FF, why would they need an FF. it shows Fuji has no intention of FF (for now) do you agree?

fujinon made MF lenses, so what, Zeiss made MF lenses too, and your point? 'Zeiss have technology for FF scale production'? Fujinon is an irrelevant statement.

I was shocked by the RX-1 this morning... fantastic baby,,,
CZ 24mm or RX-1... which one do you choose?

if really 5k for a compact like RX-1 FF, i really want to see what is the actual performance this thing can offer... the game is getting interesting... it is like compact -> bulk -> compact again...

Well, if i dont factor the price in i would take the RX-1 anyday! but at 2799USD its really targetting a very rich enthusiast or pro market.

hanging around first ba...
maybe half year more there is a RX50... just like nex6, stand between 7 and 5n... LOL

USD2799 = MYR8496

This post has been edited by geek8585: Sep 10 2012, 10:27 AM

no offence taken

the reason i guess the price will be sky high due to full frame + cz lens,either one of them are already super expensive to majority


just saw from internet the rumours price will be USD 2799

but its alright, not for me anyway, still waiting for 1018mm lens review

This post has been edited by Ah hao: Sep 10 2012, 10:33 AM

It is interesting to note your expressing of fear of being bitten by bees, actually, unless provoked, very unlikely. Spiders are the same and its venom can be more deadly due to lack of study.

It is a fallacy though that you will be able to get them to sit still under macro mode. It must be a really lucky shot. Most of the pix you see of the super sharp, great depth of field version are taken off dead (pet) bugs! It will be your lucky day to get 3 shots continuous with focus adjustment for a stack picture. I have seen some really superb high resolution of some spiders made from 72 stacks. It is wow. The detail is mind boggling.

lol. fullframe is for depth of field, less for sensor quality

so is medium format is for lesser depth of field, and lesser for sensor quality?

Medium format IS both... Lesser DOF and higher quality. Why? Because the larger area means it can accommodate larger photosites, which means higher signal to noise ratio (SNR), even if there's 40-50 megapixels, there's still plenty of real estate to shove in all those photosites.

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 10 2012, 10:27 PM

I said "The sensor technology keep evolving. Now sensor found in Nikon D7000 and Pentax K5 is almost the same as the one found in full frame 5D classic few years back. I think the quality is really good enough for most people." Did you read "TECHNOLOGY". Did you read "QUALITY". Did I mention "PHYSICAL SIZE"?

Do you remember what you wrote earlier? "i doubt fuji has technology or ability for FF scale production. or a 'scale of economy' for that." and now you are selling Fujinon is irrelevant. what is relevant?

Just because you are skeptical on everything doesn't mean we cannot talk about it. RX1 look photoshopped (fishy)? Do you have any reference again? LOL. We cannot prove it is real. You cannot prove it is wrong either. And even if RX1 is photoshopped. so what?! If RX1 is announced one day (probably long with A99), where do you want to hide?

p/s I have intentionally using your words so you can look at the mirror and know how you sound.

This post has been edited by samsungfreak: Sep 11 2012, 02:26 AM

"The sensorengine technology keep evolving. Now sensorengine found in Nikon D7000 and Pentax K5 toyota hilux and mit triton is almost the same as the one found in full frame 5D classic nissan classic skyline R34 few years back. I think the quality is really good enough for most people."

lets do a little swap with subject and see how your statement show.... its obvious u not talking bout technology of the sensor, its obvious u pointed carelessly the sensor are almost the same. i wonder who many ppl here was confuse by it too.
you know, instead of being so defensive and offensive you could just say, 'oh i mean the technology' instead reply with offense. and i'd be fine by it~ i been only reply with proper comment where went wrong. and if your think my reply was that offensive, then i think u have paranoid issue that every reply is attacking you, it seem u have that issue with others replying you in other threads too.

" Do you remember what you wrote earlier? "i doubt fuji has technology or ability for FF scale production. or a 'scale of economy' for that." and now you are selling Fujinon is irrelevant. what is relevant? "

i do, its irrelevant that 'does fuji has the ecomony of scale or the tech to make FF'. Zeiss makes MF lenses too, and they obviously has no technology to make Sensor at all, so it means by you bringing out Fujinon(lens department) able to make MF lens, and then... what is it to do with the economy of scale to make FF sensor? arent u slapping ur ownselves to bring this up again?

"Just because you are skeptical on everything doesn't mean we cannot talk about it. RX1 look photoshopped (fishy)? Do you have any reference again? LOL. We cannot prove it is real. You cannot prove it is wrong either. And even if RX1 is photoshopped. so what?! If RX1 is announced one day (probably long with A99), where do you want to hide?" says the skeptical person who say why cant i talk bout it look like photoshopped. why cant we talk bout how its photoshopped then u attack me for... erm, what point? im skeptical? i admit i am, i am skeptical why would sony decide to come out with a camera that just a niche market, and it looks so much like Xpro1, which risking fuji suing sony later on, OR, maybe, sony already acquired some share in fuji, hence sony kinda share their tech like the new 6x6 grid sensor which sony patented years back. just an opinion, feel free to CORRECT me, not attack me.

p/s from the start, i have no intention to argue with you, but just hope u will correct your statement. that all. but aren't u the one thats skeptical that attack every point of my comment?

So many people has reply to my comment and none of them get confused. Now you want to make it more confusing comparing apple with orange, comparing car engine with camera sensor? Even your example is a very bad one. I know nothing about cars, but I know Volkswagen Polo engine doesn't need to be BIG to compete.

Other threads? You get so disturb you go and read my comments in other threads? Thank you for spending that time on me. But I have no interest in reading your comments in other threads so I cannot comment on how you behave.

And honestly, I find it very hard to get your point from your first post. Do you have any points? Either you have hard time expressing yourself or I have hard time understand you. But this is a pubic forum, feel free to write what you want.

p/s it is you who keep repeating the words such as disturb, argue, attack, defend, so what...

This post has been edited by samsungfreak: Sep 11 2012, 06:54 PM

Both of you, cool down can? Give face a bit and both shake hands and get over it can?

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dear guys, how much is sony nex 5N/D dual lense kit price currently.

This post has been edited by men0name: Sep 12 2012, 12:38 PM

Which new lens for you?

35mm f1.8


16-50mm f3.5-5.6


10-18mm f4



I think many will replace their current 18-55mm with the 16-50mm

Nex 6 is here

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/sony-nex-6-hands-on/

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Added on September 12, 2012, 12:54 pmThe 16-50 is power zoom wor.

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Added on September 12, 2012, 12:58 pmThe RX1 is now official.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/...ensor-35mm-lens

This post has been edited by samsungfreak: Sep 12 2012, 01:00 PM

what is the planned lauching date for NEX-6?

NEX 6 available in US from mid November.

NEX-5R with the new 16-50 pancake zoom as kit lens will be available on next Feb. Price $800.



This post has been edited by watdahell: Sep 12 2012, 01:51 PM