The classes or workshops organised by Sony are highly recommended. Once you get the hold of your camera, join the other workshops. You'll get tips and tricks from the trainers there where you won't get it elsewhere. I think currently only Sony has this workshops free or charge.

u reply the wrong person


last time just randomly buy from ebay

Mea calpa.


I normally source these parts direct from Ali express.com. have no problems so long as you buy smart. The only thing that puzzle me sometimes is postage paid by seller can be more expensive than the amount I paid for CIF cost! Not an isolated case. I normally look for CIF quote. It is usually less than FOB value. most of the stuff in eBay comes from china.

This post has been edited by ChinWY: Sep 9 2012, 04:18 PM

Tq2.. But dunno yet will go or not ... Coz today just fall from MTB .. My teeth is broken, chin get stiches 10.. Lips swollenn....

Sorry to hear that..get well soon...

Anyone using closed up filter? I curious to ask a question,

I bought closed up + 4 filter, but it had limit to length, which meant I unable to get a Sharp pic for zoom length...will it needed for +10 for zoom length to get a clear/sharper pic?

wow, take care bro, get well soon

Trophy from MTB collection? Now you have bragging rights mate . Sorry, I have collected my share 10 years ago. I still pay the price of a frozen shoulder as a result of a freak offroad accident that I have for 6 years now . Now I stick to touring bicycle. Age catching up .

Speedy recovery.

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Added on September 9, 2012, 9:38 pmI use to play with close up filters but I find it not worth the cost at the end of the day. Image quality is just bearable and the edges is really crap. If you are really serious , you are better off with 2 options.

1. If you have old SLR lens, you can get a reverse lens adapter for real cheap price these days (eBay) or if you do not have old SLR lens, you can source them there too for a very modest price. You kill 2 birds here. Reverse for macro work and up front, and you have a manual prime lens. If you pick your choice carefully, ie a short tele + wide angle. Mate them and you have a very good macro with decent magnification.

2. Get a proper macro from the old stock (eBay). If you are on shoe string. A Nikkor Macro (A1) 55f3.5 is decent price or if you can afford go for the 55f2.8 These are proper macro lens and you will enjoy them. Bigger f stop is necessary if you are going for the high magnifications. You need all the light you can get - it start to loose light when the lens gets further from the sensor. I will not consider auto Macro lens. It is not really worth its value and you have to switch it to manual all the time for proper control. FYI - i just bought a Macro 55f2.8 with adapter for <RM800/- for a friend.

As for distance from lens to subject - sorry ... that is not much you can do on that unless you go for the longer lens. But there is still a limit to it. You get to real issues when magnification goes pass x2 Often objects are almost touching the lens and depth of filed is difficult to locate and compose. Most switch to photo stacking if detail work is needed.


I do have Zoom with Macro but the quality is just not there . Also too bulky for close up work.

This post has been edited by ChinWY: Sep 9 2012, 09:42 PM

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Trophy from MTB collection? Now you have bragging rights mate . Sorry, I have collected my share 10 years ago. I still pay the price of a frozen shoulder as a result of a freak offroad accident that I have for 6 years now . Now I stick to touring bicycle. Age catching up .

heheeh just fun ride @ thomson trail cameron highland.. my front brake jammed

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[quote=ChinWY,Sep 9 2012, 09:18 PM]
Trophy from MTB collection? Now you have bragging rights mate . Sorry, I have collected my share 10 years ago. I still pay the price of a frozen shoulder as a result of a freak offroad accident that I have for 6 years now . Now I stick to touring bicycle. Age catching up .

heheeh just fun ride @ thomson trail cameron highland.. my front brake jammed

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Aaah that the Pos Mansun trail. I did it several times in the late 90's. Ruts were man deep in some places then. Extremely technical but fun with hard tail. We had to do 2 raccee before we found the right turning. Was unknown to MTB's then.

Thanks for the sharing, I do agree that close up filter degrade the pic quality. Might not to invest on it as I don't think will go all the way nearer to the subject for macro shoot, I like take macro shoot on bee and spider, but i don't wish to close to it just for pic, will have high probability being sting

FULL FRAME MIRRORLESS WOOHOOO SORRY BUT I DONNO WHERE TO POST THIS AHAHHAHA SO EXCITING!!!

RX100 punya bapa?

i dont think it will be true/ its sales will be good, full frame with fix lens, wtf combination is that?

a totally weird move from sony

Any Nex-er using Nikkor adaptor with Nikon 50mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor?

The aperture control at lens, right?

The Fuji X100 had a fixed lens, and that was only APSC sized and had one of the worst AF I've laid my hands on, only losing to manual focus. Sold like hot cakes. This is full frame, and RX100 proved to have the best AF in a compact camera to date. I don't see the issue here. wtf deduction is that?

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 10 2012, 01:21 AM

i think its not a good combination because i guess it will be too costly for the majority(at least RM6k?), and may doesn't fit the bill for enthusiastic ( their craze for retro look camera and where is the viewfinder?)

I can safely predict pricetag to be less than 5k. The Fuji was 4k range and they're known to hv sky high prices. Sensor fabrication unlike 5 years back, have reduced in production cost by a very big margin. Full frame sensors aren't as expensive to make now. The deciding factor is the lens. 35mm lenses are not known to be cheap. We'll see how the rumour turns out. Oh btw, I'm not picking a fight here ah hao, haha, jz using back your words of wtf.

i find this statement very disturbing.

1. i doubt fuji has technology or ability for FF scale production. or a 'scale of economy' for that.
2. Sensor in D7000, K5, is almost same as found in 5D, seriously need a references where u got that info from.

please dont simply say stuff, u may get trolled by sony fanboys.


loon, FF is FF. Crop is Crop. dont mix it.

also, IQ hold only like 10% of how good your image is. the other 90% is your skill, and still your skill to create the image. if u are really skillful, even your iphone photo can beat some noob with D700/800/3x/4.


(simplify my reply)
1. the round filter type macro is a very bad buy. you just wasted your money.
2. reverse adapter makes holding NEX not stable.
3. another recommended option, get a Raynox DCR250. it has 3 element(optics) inside to retain IQ vs the ring filter(single optic). its only around 3xx) and it can fix on most of e mount lens filter thread.

jimmyyap03, macro shooting is a very diff method from normal photoshooting technique. the proper way of macro, is not using AF. but i) manual focus to infinity(with adapter), ii)set to desire working distance/manification eg 1:1.5/1:1.2; and focus by moving the camera forward backward to find the focus point.

like ChinWY mention, DOF is very tricky business as such close up will result is very very shallow DOF (even with F16 where u lost all the lights too, so pick a further focus distance(macro lens) and crop later (all professional macro shooter crops their photo). or (with adapter type, eg raynox) wider angle lens (eg 35-50mm)

This post has been edited by ieR: Sep 10 2012, 04:49 AM

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/C...se/Canon/EOS-5D
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/C...ase/Nikon/D7000
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/C...abase/Pentax/K5

D7000 and K5 has better color depth and significantly better dynamic range than 5d classic. 5d classic has only 1/3 stop better noise performance.

Both D7000 and K5 sensor are made by Sony, why Sony fanboys need to be upset with it?

Well you can always defend yourself by saying dxomark is junk and they need "reference" from someone.

Can I get some "reference" saying fuji doesn't have the technology for FF scale production?

Fuji made Medium Format Hasselblad lenses (Read Medium Format). Do you need a reference for that?

Please don't simply get disturbed again. You may get trolled.

This post has been edited by samsungfreak: Sep 10 2012, 03:06 AM