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MR_alien
post Mar 3 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(tadwinks @ Mar 3 2012, 09:26 PM)
i hear a faint "eeee--grrrrrr" sound for about a second everytime i hit a pothole. is this normal?
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u'r never suppose to hit the potholes...you're suppose to avoid it
no car is designed to go through potholes...not even BMW and merc
else your tyre will benjol 1st
and sooner or later your absorber will kong
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post Mar 3 2012, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(tadwinks @ Mar 3 2012, 09:26 PM)
i hear a faint "eeee--grrrrrr" sound for about a second everytime i hit a pothole. is this normal?
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Hahahahahaha..... Its really sound funny u described. "eeeee-grrrr..."
yup, i heard mine also. Donno what the weird sound is but i know its from the back.

My car got many weird sound 1,
got "eeeee-grrrrr" sound,
got "un-un-un" sound from gearbox,
got "tok-tok" sound from brake.
gor "tilik-tialiak...." sound when tyre through small stone or sand. Mostly heard 1.

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post Mar 4 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Mar 3 2012, 11:05 PM)
Hahahahahaha..... Its really sound funny u described. "eeeee-grrrr..."
yup, i heard mine also. Donno what the weird sound is but i know its from the back.

My car got many weird sound 1,
got "eeeee-grrrrr" sound,
got "un-un-un" sound from gearbox,
got "tok-tok" sound from brake.
gor "tilik-tialiak...." sound when tyre through small stone or sand. Mostly heard 1.
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mine sounds like its coming from the front. sometimes uneven road oso can get that sound
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post Mar 4 2012, 11:55 AM

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this weekends, fc was slightly higher. i was cruising the highway at 140-150 all the way... i think my fc for 50 bucks this weekend was less than 300km for 50 bucks...


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post Mar 4 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 3 2012, 07:19 AM)
my old gen2 gets me 350 km for 50 bucks.
but then again, i dont floor the gas pedal like mad. lah. and as soon as i can settle the car into a cruise i'll do it.
but i still think it can be better. but its much much much better than  my old kia carnival...
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wow, if old gen2 auto get this fc, in mix driving, i believe it really goooooood :-), beating vios summore, but i think it is manual n it is cruising fc rite.

Try to practice as i mentioned above, but dun worry, it gonna be better when svc 5k, n get even better @ 10k km service when all internal part matured enough. I think maybe can get around 8-9L / 100km per town driving, if really2 light foot, single driver, dont let engine idle too long when not driving like waiting ur wife buying groceries in supermarket and u saty inside the car while waiting n engine is on, i think 7-8L/100km can be maintain, but below that, pretty hard coz u need to turn the ac on, and the vvt below 2k rpm is too advance coz design to put more torque for below 2k rpm which really impressive for 1.6 with vvt. No question on after 2k coz turbo takes over, but below that, really rely on vvt.
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post Mar 4 2012, 12:19 PM

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not cruising fc, mix fc and its auto.

when i first got the car, my fc was better, much better. .

anyhow, not really minding the exoras fc at the moment. its an mpv. i can still manage it. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2012, 02:54 PM

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My dear bold owners..

I'm considering bold for the sleek design, powerful engine and gadgeteries inside ( i.e dvd, reverse camera bla bla)

But being a proton product, and with complications of the turbo setup, can this beast perform well over 9 years ( not rich la..plan to use till abis loan term)?

Techy guru's or any proton affiliates, be it engineers or fans, can please enlighten me..

Thank you in advance..
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post Mar 4 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(noormsmy @ Mar 4 2012, 02:54 PM)
My dear bold owners..

I'm considering bold for the sleek design, powerful engine and gadgeteries inside ( i.e dvd, reverse camera bla bla)

But being a proton product, and with complications of the turbo setup, can this beast perform well over 9 years ( not rich la..plan to use till abis loan term)?

Techy guru's or any proton affiliates, be it engineers or fans, can please enlighten me..

Thank you in advance..
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the turbo is from warner-borg
and despite having the turbo....proton limited the torque to maintain the reliability of the engine and more importantly to match the CVT GB
can last 9 years or not...no one knows...proton's exora bold that proton is testing that u saw them on the road...they have tested it until 250000KM and still going
but i know 1 thing for sure, if u dn't take care of the engine well(didn't service on time)....no engine in this world would last even 5 years
just service it on time...changed the necessary part on time...it should last u quite long
dn't come back here and complain when proton break down when u the owner didn't even change engine oil on time, GB oil on time, coolant on time, belts on time etc etc
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post Mar 4 2012, 03:50 PM

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Correct me if I am wrong but I seldom come across people complaining about the reliability and durability of the Campro engine. All the complaint I heard are lack of low end power and high FC. Correct?

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 4 2012, 03:50 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong but I seldom come across people complaining about the reliability and durability of the Campro engine. All the complaint I heard are lack of low end power and high FC. Correct?
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hmm..not so sure
many mechanic label campro as a "small gas"(mandarin) engine
but most the case is that they didn't service /take care of it properly
and yeah..high FC but the thing is....the cause of high FC is not the engine, its the gearbox itself
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 4 2012, 03:50 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong but I seldom come across people complaining about the reliability and durability of the Campro engine. All the complaint I heard are lack of low end power and high FC. Correct?
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Apart from the notorious cylinder head sumbing issues of the first batch Campro in Gen2s, there aren't any major cases reported. Thanks to the QC initiative taken by DSZ.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 4 2012, 03:50 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong but I seldom come across people complaining about the reliability and durability of the Campro engine. All the complaint I heard are lack of low end power and high FC. Correct?
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The Campro engine itself has little to no issues for most of us. In terms of the powertrain, Campro cars are more notorious with fragile fuel pumps and noisy IAFM. As for the low end power issue, it is partially addressed with the addition of the Campro IAFM and CPS variant. The CFE variant does not have this issue as the turbo kicks in quite early.
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I was told best to wait till March till the 2nd batch comes out because by then, they will have sort out some of the gremlin already so safer to buy.
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post Mar 4 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 4 2012, 12:19 PM)
not cruising fc, mix fc and its auto.  

when i first got the car,  my fc was better, much better.  .

anyhow, not really minding the exoras fc at the moment. its an mpv. i can still manage it.  biggrin.gif
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oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..


Added on March 4, 2012, 7:20 pm
QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 4 2012, 12:19 PM)
not cruising fc, mix fc and its auto.  

when i first got the car,  my fc was better, much better.  .

anyhow, not really minding the exoras fc at the moment. its an mpv. i can still manage it.  biggrin.gif
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oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..

By the way, what is the rpm@speed 140-150kmh? I believe just around 3k++ rpm.


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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 4 2012, 12:19 PM)
not cruising fc, mix fc and its auto. 

when i first got the car,  my fc was better, much better.  .

anyhow, not really minding the exoras fc at the moment. its an mpv. i can still manage it.  biggrin.gif
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oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..

By the way, what is the rpm@speed 140-150kmh? I believe just around 3k++ rpm.

This post has been edited by mat79: Mar 4 2012, 07:21 PM
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post Mar 4 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 4 2012, 03:34 PM)
the turbo is from warner-borg
and despite having the turbo....proton limited the torque to maintain the reliability of the engine and more importantly to match the CVT GB
can last 9 years or not...no one knows...proton's exora bold that proton is testing that u saw them on the road...they have tested it until 250000KM and still going
but i know 1 thing for sure, if u dn't take care of the engine well(didn't service on time)....no engine in this world would last even 5 years
just service it on time...changed the necessary part on time...it should last u quite long
dn't come back here and complain when proton break down when u the owner didn't even change engine oil on time, GB oil on time, coolant on time, belts on time etc etc
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Thank you for the reply...its a relief to hear htey have tested the car to 2500000 km. My 5 yrs of using the current car is only 80k km, never miss any oil change/ filter change, follow the manual religously.

Fuel fc i heard is around 10-12L per 100 km, is that correct?

What about the internal i.e dashboard, kerusi, bla bal, any issue (since the first launch)?

Sorry a lot of question la bang...As i mentioned not so rich have to be careful lah icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(noormsmy @ Mar 4 2012, 07:35 PM)
Thank you for the reply...its a relief to hear htey have tested the car to 2500000 km. My 5 yrs of using the current car is  only 80k km, never miss any oil change/ filter change, follow the manual religously.

Fuel fc i heard is around 10-12L per 100 km, is that correct?

What about the internal i.e dashboard, kerusi, bla bal, any issue (since the first launch)?

Sorry a lot of question la bang...As i mentioned not so rich have to be careful lah icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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FC depends on your right foot/how u drive/where u drive(city/h.way/mix)
for problems...u have to refer to exora thread
but most i think are just inconveniences instead of problem and nothing can't be solve with proton's 3-5 years warranty
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post Mar 4 2012, 11:47 PM

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My car so far so good.....
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post Mar 5 2012, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 4 2012, 07:18 PM)
oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..


Added on March 4, 2012, 7:20 pm

oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..

By the way, what is the rpm@speed 140-150kmh? I believe just around 3k++ rpm.


Added on March 4, 2012, 7:21 pm

oic, if mix then its ok, but still think its good. For fully town, really hard to achieve that. Mine a bit less aero as gen2, waja campro,fully town just around 300km+-. But mix,just around yours, but driving sedately, avoiding the death valley. If vroom, u knowla, fuel also from, he..he..

By the way, what is the rpm@speed 140-150kmh? I believe just around 3k++ rpm.
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rpm speed for which car ? the exora or gen2 ?
gen2 , about 4k rpm .
exora , about 3k .. i remember thinking i had another k before i lose the torque... was wondering how fast the car can really go , if i floored the pedal.
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post Mar 5 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 5 2012, 08:58 AM)
rpm speed for which car ? the exora or gen2 ?
gen2 , about 4k rpm .
exora , about 3k  .. i remember thinking i had another k before i lose the torque... was wondering how fast the car can really go , if i floored the pedal.
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:-),sorry,miss that out. Exora bold. How fast, erm, based on journo that i met during testing it, more than top speed mentioned in the brochure, n some saying manage to hit beyond 200kmh++and they said it feel secure even in that speed, it just they cant mentioned it in the report coz u know, they shudnt speeding off speed limits even during testing unless on the race track :-).

But i think, no need to test out the top speed rite,since it is a family cruiser, unless u r in unavoidable circumtances n urgency. Drive safely.

By the way, for fc@140-150kmh, i think its still commendable coz the engine still new(not surpass 10k yet), n for that small engine with weight nearly 300kg more than gen2, it still ok. But participate that p321a which having lower weight,maybe around 200kg less than exo, better aerodynamic,i believe cfe is at its best fc. Not the best in segment, but best for prtn i must say.


Added on March 5, 2012, 10:11 amby the way, even torque is lesser than max torque after 4krpm, but its still have healthy dosage of torque at max hp rpm@5k, it is around 195nm torque@5k rpm, which equivalent most max torque 2.0 na cars even at 5k rpm n even at 5.5k,it has more than any 1.6na engine max torque. And the best part is,even overevving it @6k rpm,still have around 160nm of torque,that is 10nm more than cps max torque@4.5krpm.


Added on March 5, 2012, 10:22 amthats why i said earlier,pheonix engine project for cfe n iafm+ is focusing more on wider torque band rather than max hp n max torque coz they learn that, figure is one thing, but drivability is another. No need to shout which one has bigger hp, which one has bigger torque for comparison coz for common user, the most important part is drivability in town n highways and fc. If they can balance out both,it shud be good. Not like before offering.

This post has been edited by mat79: Mar 5 2012, 10:22 AM
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post Mar 5 2012, 05:33 PM

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Any Exora Bold driver here having problem with their CVT GB ?
Heard some where mentioned fist batch having some CVT GB glitch..?!
BTW, I have a Bold CFE in my house.

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