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 Short Review on the Exora Bold

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post Feb 1 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 1 2012, 04:18 PM)
got ppl kena, after 100,000km driving, in ONE YEAR!

for 308thp.

he paid himself for the turbo.

material price rm10k, not including labour charge. the price list u can get from 308thp forum.
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Let's look at the mathematics.

Turbo timer with fitting RM500
Let engine run 3 minutes before shut down after a hard running. Cost of petrol ????

Add everything together and it will never get to RM10K.

That is why I prefer to fit one despite many people saying there is no need for it simply because it is cheaper to be prudent. Unfortunately, voiding of warranty is in the way.

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post Feb 1 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 1 2012, 04:20 PM)
what makes you think so? We kept our cars until they were about to die (or died), and I know many who do so too. Plus it seems to me that Germans keep their cars longer than Malaysians, 15 years or more until the car is scraped or sold to Africa is quite common IMHO. So yeah, I think we do care to keep the car alive. Also Germans (and Europeans in general I guess) don't get super long loans. Usually it's maybe 3 years, perhaps 5. After that the car has to be fully paid.

Even if the car is sold (and some do change them frequently), they have to sell them, so the condition matters.
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hey, grass is greener on the other side ,ok ? biggrin.gif

even if you're from the other side, no we dont care how is the reality, the grass is greener, period biggrin.gif
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:24 PM

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Proton already test the car. No need worry so much, if they had problem testing they already fit in turbo timer before released to public
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Feb 1 2012, 04:24 PM)
Proton already test the car. No need worry so much, if they had problem testing they already fit in turbo timer before released to public
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Your interest and their interest are not the same. It is in their interest (cheaper cost) to fit a lousy tires to the Exora. But is that in your interest? Ditto this turbo issue.

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post Feb 1 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Feb 1 2012, 04:24 PM)
Proton already test the car. No need worry so much, if they had problem testing they already fit in turbo timer before released to public
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doh.gif anyone knows how "intensive" they test their cars? it's Proton, and i don't mean to bash them, but seriously, it's PROTON!
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 1 2012, 04:28 PM)
Your interest and their interest are not the same. It is in their interest (cheaper cost) to fit a lousy tires to the Exora. But is that in your interest? Ditto this turbo issue.
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thats why a lot of ppl stick to OEM tyre biggrin.gif

be it porsche or proton biggrin.gif
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 1 2012, 04:31 PM)
thats why a lot of ppl stick to OEM tyre biggrin.gif

be it porsche or proton biggrin.gif
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Can't compare Proton with Porsche lah. Super car like Porsche may even come with tires not commonly found outside so you are stuck with....OEM tires.

But I know what you mean. I have friend who will always go back buying the same lousy tires that came with the car. They think the car manufacturer know best so those must be the best tire for their car. LOL.
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post Feb 1 2012, 05:28 PM

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Turbo timer is additional accessories and turbo cars doesn't really need it. If yes most turbocharger cars equipped with it by its manufacturer. The turbine itself keep on spooling even in no boosting mode. Unless your are boosting at 1.4 bar onwards then you should have time to cool down the turbine. How..just drive below 2-3k rpm before shutting down the engine in few minutes.

For Bold maybe you can google yourself on Borg Wagner turbine for more infos..
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post Feb 1 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(wezeer @ Feb 1 2012, 05:28 PM)
Turbo timer is additional accessories and turbo cars doesn't really need it. If yes most turbocharger cars equipped with it by its manufacturer. The turbine itself keep on spooling even in no boosting mode. Unless your are boosting at 1.4 bar onwards then you should have time to cool down the turbine. How..just drive below 2-3k rpm before shutting down the engine in few minutes.

For Bold maybe you can google yourself on Borg Wagner turbine for more infos..
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Though rare, there are indeed time I don't have chance to drive below 2000 rpm for 5 minutes before switching off. So how? Sit in car for a few minutes or get a turbo timer to do the job?

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post Feb 1 2012, 05:38 PM

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wait is the Exora Bold Turbo using water cooling technology?

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Though rare, there are indeed time I don't have chance to drive below 2000 rpm for 5 minutes before switching off. So how? Sit in car for a few minutes or get a turbo timer to do the job?


heard Bold max boost is 0.4 bar only...
can Bold go beyond and more than 1.4 bar on boosting pressure ? if not forget about it...
just switch off the car...

I believe you don't press hard your right foot and make a sudden stall thus switch off the car right..the moment before you park the car is enough to cool down the turbine.

This post has been edited by wezeer: Feb 1 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(wezeer @ Feb 1 2012, 05:44 PM)
heard Bold max boost is 0.4 bar only...
can Bold go beyond and more than 1.4 bar on boosting pressure ? if not forget about it...
just switch off the car...

I believe you don't press hard your right foot and make a sudden stall thus switch off the car right..the moment before you park the car is enough to cool down the turbine.
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0.7 i heard
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post Feb 1 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 1 2012, 04:30 PM)
doh.gif anyone knows how "intensive" they test their cars?  it's Proton, and i don't mean to bash them, but seriously, it's PROTON!
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Well what I heard was that they ran the test vehicle up to 250k km. Forgot it was either the Exora Bold or the Saga FLX SE.
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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 1 2012, 07:56 PM)
Well what I heard was that they ran the test vehicle up to 250k km. Forgot it was either the Exora Bold or the Saga FLX SE.
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they can say what they want, and i won't believe a word of it
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post Feb 1 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 1 2012, 08:03 PM)
they can say what they want, and i won't believe a word of it
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Rational thinking at it's best.
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post Feb 1 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 1 2012, 08:05 PM)
Rational thinking at it's best.
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sarcasm is good, but u've used it the wrong way

nope, not rational thinking, it's common sense. u don't believe everything ppl say.
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post Feb 1 2012, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 1 2012, 08:27 PM)
sarcasm is good, but u've used it the wrong way

nope, not rational thinking, it's common sense.  u don't believe everything ppl say.
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Well I took it that you meant that you will not believe anything Proton says, no matter what Proton says (even if they say the sky is blue). IMO that's not rational.

Either that, or I mistook what you meant. If it's the latter, I duly retract my sarcasm.
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post Feb 1 2012, 09:05 PM

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exora bold boost @0.75 bar.
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post Feb 1 2012, 09:09 PM

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Sorry to interrupt, anybody care to tell me fuel consumption of bold, especially city driving. I heard from my friends CPSs drink fuel like water, what about bold?
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Feb 1 2012, 09:09 PM)
Sorry to interrupt, anybody care to tell me fuel consumption of bold, especially city driving. I heard from my friends CPSs drink fuel like water, what about bold?
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I guess the car now is still new and no one can give you a real figure for FC yet. But for sure, the FC will be better than the CPS unit. Not to mention coupled with the efficiency of the CVT itself and also the availability of max torque at such low rpm.

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