Short Review on the Exora Bold
Short Review on the Exora Bold
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Dec 17 2011, 11:03 AM
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if you can control your leg
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Dec 18 2011, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 18 2011, 12:42 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « no wonder those engineers in germany are driving cheap toyotas only, they are not patriotic |
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Dec 19 2011, 05:18 PM
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i sat inside, i must say, this is going to be a seller.
the only only thing that makes/break the deal, will be the badge. but come on, those mature/old buyer should not be blinded by the badge. get alphard if they wanna showoff. but innova at rm100k is a serious contender, only rm10k extra ( but innova interior very plain ) |
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Dec 19 2011, 05:27 PM
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the 6 seater is very impressive, the captain seat, oh.
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Dec 19 2011, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 19 2011, 07:40 PM) How can the Innova based on a truck compete with the Exora, other than through the badge? mate, similar price range I don't know... I quite like the lack of a chrome badge on the steering wheel. Looks kinda subtle, different... however the headlights are not exactly pretty or modern to me. Something like this http://robson.m3rlin.org/cars/wp-content/u...0x1200-copy.jpg would be a lot cooler. Projector headlights with LEDs for the indicators, as eyelids. Or perhaps http://www.streetcar.dk/images/show/213051.jpg I think I'd buy the Exora if I needed a new MPV and couldn't afford a Touran (twice the price for a car that's not nearly twice as good? and toyota badge has a halo effect |
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Dec 19 2011, 07:49 PM
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Dec 19 2011, 07:58 PM
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er.....
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Dec 19 2011, 10:14 PM
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just buy a porsche boxster to work.
and leave the econobox for weekend family outing!!! |
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Dec 19 2011, 10:34 PM
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Er I prefer alza
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Dec 19 2011, 10:41 PM
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Turbo always low compression la. Only Myvi is high compression.
You mean low boost is it? |
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Dec 21 2011, 11:54 AM
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this car is value for money !!
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Dec 21 2011, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 21 2011, 03:38 PM) You can be. Healthcare is pretty expensive (you are forced to be insured, but of course you have to pay, depending on how much you earn). If you need to go to the doctor you have to pay around 20 rm if you haven't done so before in the same quarter. Medicine is 20 or 40 rm each. Houses are quite affordable and the government helps a lot to make everyone have their own house. In Germany you are out on your own (though they make sure you can survive if unemployed). yea, living in msia is such a blessing. msia is one of the best countries to stay. I used to pay about 2000 rm in road tax alone for my 1.9 diesel (it was quite a stinker, one of the earliest catalytic converters). The modern 1.4 petrol was tax exempt. Btw. there is more competition between shops, so especially consumer electronics are more affordable, especially on the upper end. frequently eating in restaurants will bankrupt you though... ask those indon, bangla, negro, and ppl from myanmar. |
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Dec 21 2011, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron135LC @ Dec 21 2011, 04:51 PM) sorry.. OOT,Germans went out for food.. they pay their own meal right..? despite going out as a family.. father pay own meal, mother pay own meal, son pay own meal or etc... this comes from a german my sis knew.. her fren married this german.. and she find it weird cause german are normal to this.. but back to the topic about tax.. i still don really understand this.. can sum it up in a much more simpler way..? thanks ! malaysian very steady, eat, father pay. buy vios, father pay(downpayment), buy 600k house, father pay downpayment. get baby, father (grandfather dy) pay milk powder german/westerner is better in this case ok, just in general. our culture more on spoonfeeding. from education to family. OOT, ok, back to car. |
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Dec 22 2011, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(chulaisn @ Dec 22 2011, 12:06 AM) test drove this morning. first impression upon starting engine..dissapointment,,the engine sound and felt like a bag of nails..its rough and unrefine..exact feel i had when i took delivery of my gen2 5 yrs back. However, only at idle, it felt so. Thereafter on the move ,all was well, steering and suspension are good,the cvt gearbox smooth . Like the review by star motoring- pls dont expect kick in the butt turbo performance. infact i didnt feel the turbo at all but instead a very smooth progression..mybe the cvt blunted the pickup to a certain point.infact i would prefer such state of tune between gb and engine as reliability on the long run will be better. back to the drive, upon sudden acceleration ffrom low speed, a typical trait of the cvt emerge - the engine will spin to high rpm with a moment that feel like half clutching a manual car/or a worn out clutch, before the gear 'reengages' again - this probably is something a cvt driver will have to learn/live with. i think can engage manual shift(if there is any) to actually try the acceleration |
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Dec 22 2011, 05:01 PM
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saga hatchback?
oh, you mean savvy? |
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Jan 12 2012, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 11 2012, 03:31 PM) Saga is not relevant to compare to vios, coz even without tax, its still cheaper than vios. True competitor is persona elegance n gen2. oh, so the P321a is a competitor to inspira/civic/altis/slyphy? Just wait for p321a, it is direct competitor with vios n city, with same tax applied, n judge whether prtn can do better or not compare to vios@city. Dont talk about old tax structure coz we are now in 2012. Happy motoring. Added on January 11, 2012, 3:33 pmjust wait whether p321a premium is par with inspira @ rm80 below or better or lesser. 2012 , we using new tax structure? but, how come price still same? if 2012, there is a significant change in the car price i understand. the price it self is not change. in fact, its getting higher and higher. last time waja 60k. now persona 60k. persona is smaller. yes inflation inflation. Added on January 12, 2012, 9:32 am QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jan 12 2012, 12:07 AM) Well, the Fiesta hatch is most def B segment, even if it's a slightly big one. Will the addition of a boot make it C segment? No clue... probably not. i assure you myvi interior is roomier than golf Fiesta is the same category with Clio, Polo and Corsa. Myvi too, IMHO. There is usually no sedan for these small cars in Germany (there used to be a Polo sedan, but that wasn't exactly successful). Other European countries may have a sedan version. Btw. it's very uncommon to say A, B or C segment in Germany. I think A segment is considered Kleinstwagen, meaning smallest possible car. B segment is Kleinwagen, small car. Then there is the Golf-Klasse... Golf category, named after the benchmark VW Golf. Also called Kompaktklasse (compact). Mittelklasse would be D segment, something like a Passat, Mondeo, 3 series BMW or C class. Obere Mittelklasse is above that... 5 series, E class, A6, ... and finally Oberklasse (S class, 7 series, A8). Is there any segment that describes those cars here? I'm not sure if the P321a will be big enough to be considered D segment. C segment probably, but on the upper end, while the Persona is on the lower end. Btw., Wikipedia says the Gen-2 is C segment. It is longer than the Golf, which is clearly considered C segment. but no way myvi is a c segment car Added on January 12, 2012, 9:39 am QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:20 PM) If u have the opportunity to know asian max 1600 challenge which satria neo won previously, that is the cars in b segment, such as city,vios,yaris, jazz, swift, pug 207,gen2,neo n etc. maybe they race among satria neo and persona? This post has been edited by turbocharged: Jan 12 2012, 09:39 AM |
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Jan 12 2012, 10:01 AM
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the best small car with big interior is myvi and jazz.
myvi interior is unbelievable. esp rear seat. pwns inspira and civic |
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Jan 12 2012, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jan 12 2012, 11:49 AM) Mat79, it is a really good info on the tax system we have. I considered myself quite knowledgeable in car industry (<-syok sendiri :-P) but never knew the new tax system. May I suggest you opened a new thread about this tax structure since many of us is still in the dark about it. it doesnt matter if the price still the same.change name and this and that. |
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Jan 12 2012, 05:24 PM
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so ,same la, end of the day, consumer is still loser. T_T
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Jan 12 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 12 2012, 06:16 PM) in the business world, consumer always lose wad. full stomach is a must.just like wan tan mee, the seller might profit Rm2 per plate out of the RM 4.50 he charged. The only "consolation prize" we get is, we walked out with a full stomach. full stomach, and will come back again with a smile= win full stomach, and will come back again but not stop cursing = lose |
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