IMHO, this PM is just a puppet. He only knows how to buy his ways through. If he pays me a million $, maybe I will vote BN.

Hope this piece of news will cheers up all the swiftlets sentuary providers:

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...s/rath/Article/

sweating....really sweating....hope my gut feeling is not right again.

today news our agri officer declared or launch or whatever u call it..the biggest bird's nest company in the world while also gives info to the media that they are finalising the final document for bird's nest export to china.....

one is final approval..one is biggest bird's nest company in the world...why have media coverage together...does it mean ??...sweating...

bird's nests is just liked property market...now prices shooting up...but u see not much buyers.....waiting game.....

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Added on April 9, 2012, 11:38 amanyone know who are the eight farmers associations that sign agreement with the biggest bird's nest company in the world ? n what is the price they agree with? just curious....

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Added on April 9, 2012, 11:39 amso, RFID is the main condition in export....who win? help who? u know i know lah...

i heard holland is a good place to retire.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Apr 9 2012, 11:39 AM

If this country is Treating me so badly I will migrate to Timbuktu or seria . If cannot find a easy way out I will consider suicide before they certify me and lock me out in a mental hospital.

Monopoly mah ....nothing is for the Swiftlet farmers only those gangs in the association who have connection will benefit. They set low price for collecting nests and control the price and sell at market price to China.

Big big profit . lol

The 3 conditions are set by malaysian goverment not China. China only wants big angpow.

This post has been edited by Semuabumi: Apr 10 2012, 12:42 PM

Benchai, i agree that this business is better in potential than those you had mentioned above. It is all relative.
Given the scenario, after 48 months getting, say, Rm2500 a month (1 kg /mth harvest or roughly a 500 nest house) before expenses is at best marginal.
The caveats i.e. fairly successful house , being in peninsula M'sia, slow growth ..;it is still a big risk.
There are those looking to "tax" you at base , whether you are making a loss or not.

Hopefully marginal houses won't be crying
Moreover there are those selling snake oil to those already down, out and desperate.

Hi I got this shrew problem recently in my BH as well. Tried plain baiting with the rat poison and traps to no avail.

Finally decided to wrap the normal rat poison sold at supermarket , with
pieces of bread. This seems to work as the bread were eaten up and the shrew carcass was found inside the BH after a few days.

the bread must have masked the smell of the poison pellets.

Good or bad.....news from Nanyang..............at least there is light at the end for all breeders....hopefully after GE13....things might be different again????


http://www.nanyang.com.my/node/436324?tid=460

Yeah..........same as the cow buz, buying up complex in Singapore with the intention of making Malaysia, the biggest exporter in beef in Asia, maybe.....even thought the company has only the ability to provide less than 10% for Malaysia.....Yeah, like buying up NASA with the intention of putting Malaysia Flag on Mar ........... reason, buying up NASA cos it is cheaper to buy now then later............but in 100 year, when we really can, all NASA has are all scape metal.

Only stupid people will buy it......and the greatest grand master of it is DM. Anyway, CHinese saying " Listening make the Balls happy" my opinion only!

All about money,profit and making a single race in control. 4th condition besides one race can do Swiftlet farming other races also can indon, Bangla ,Pakistani and African. lain-lain bangsa tidak boleh melainkan dengan kebenaran pihak berkuasa. They never said you can't do they still allow you to do but every time you submit application they reject it. Under the law they are fair to everyone.

This will come in future. Good luck



This post has been edited by Semuabumi: Apr 11 2012, 05:38 PM

Hi Sekosan,

Thanks for sharing you tip against shrew. But the thing is the blue poison were eaten and no dead carcass(s) of shrew in the farm? Should I put in more poison which is rather expensive at $12 per small carton; if effective at larger doses never mind, but if not effective, then keep feeding the shrew will not kill it? Could you tell me what brand/type of poison you are using?

I have this even worse problem just discovered last week. On my agri land BH there are these tiny mice, not the common house mice but very little like hamster size went into my AV room.

Now they chew thru some speaker wire and have to re-wire a lot of speakers. The little bugger don't chew through wires near the amp which is easy to replace. They chew through speaker wire between floors and hard to reach the spot to change!!

I was surprised how to go so high, then I was chasing 1 it can actually scale the vertical wire like spider man all the way up to ceiling.

our MCA top leader son said that, he only come in to help out us to sell our nests...after that whether the local dept let u to keep operating or not is up to THEM, he cannot help.

and he assured that no monopoly in this industry..

and datuk liow also no sight of him liao..as agri dept is in charge now.

Datuk ong already helped us in keep pushing our PM to help us.

So, ordinary farmers are again been strip naked n exposed to the big C, the big M, and now the BIG SC controlling the whole bird's nest market.

still got hope or not.......how i wish i can still said got hope !!....still can see the light guiding us at the end of the tunnel.....

with the strict guidelines to get the licence....all the ah ma n ah sun n ah pak processing plants in kampung will closed shop. all small time players will closed shop. so, left with the 8 or 9 or maybe some powerful individuals or groups will managed to fight for their own licences will be able to sell bird's nest in china.

This will cause a major major problem to ordinary farmers, it means,
the prices will not be back to the same old level.......

but one thing the Top Leader MCA son did successfully, he just chase away many high core MCA followers to vote for the opposition for the rest of their remaining life.....

1Malaysia boleh.

Vote ABU and the future of our children and bird nest industry should be brighter. It couldn't get any worse!

Dont worry. Big shot will stabilize this industry. Small farmers wont close shop. If close shop where yhe big shot gonna get the raw nest? Sky and sea? Just that if these big shots get in, price will be controlled by them so dont expect rm4000 above. Rm3000 is nice already. If this industry is no hope then might as well sell ur current BHs. Today everyone smarter already, not that easy to kill farmers income. Sure will fight one.

Please la dont make it sound like the end of the world with aunty apek close shop kind of thing. Maybe it is good idea to scare newbies away from this industry so less bird nests supply into the market.

This post has been edited by mois: Apr 12 2012, 11:22 AM

Yes it is amazing how much havoc this tiny creatures can create. Mine started with rubber pipe leaking, foam munching, then nest lost, birds lost left feathers, breeding colony of 8 babies in the toilet etc. Wonder how they reached the nesting plank to steal the nests, must be up from the exposed conduits and wires.

Steps to solve problem:-
i. Trace where they came from. Seal the entry point

ii. Cover all expose vertical conduits/pipes with aluniumum sheets

iii. Place rat poison use for oil palm plantation. Managed to kill the 2 main culprits in days I supposed as some rice placed inside still intact.

iv. Trapped the colony of babies in the toilet. By hand finished off using spade one by one. Disguist and guilty but no choice. Suppose of any politicians try to be funny, many of us farmers will do the same as we did to the rats and scumbegs

v. Placing 2ft horizontal plywood across some corridors/access way to cut out their route. Work for smaller creatures like shrew I suppose.

My 2 coins.

This post has been edited by Bobby C: Apr 12 2012, 11:44 AM

For fellow with alot of nests, 2K or 4K don't cause any hardship as when you are successful, 1K per KG already profitable but why are we make to earn less but if it's GOD work; we understand but if it's human greed, that's we are against!

More than 50% of BH owners are below par having lesser than 1K nests and creating so much difficulties and trouble for them really hurt and kill them and me @ heart, too. For me, it's not the money, but the sad feeling for our poor fellow brothers in difficulties cause by greedy men and that's what make me mad and furious.

Don't build anymore BH for Goodness sake unless the Government really and honestly support us.......if interested, buy up already buildup BHs and many BHs are for sales and they are really cheap..........don't need to get into the trouble like me. After one year and the BH still not ready and anyway, I am in no hurry as it will hurt me more if it's not successful and worst, if it's successful and letting others make more than me on my nests.

Many BH owners came and talk about lacking of nests here and in Indo, the biggest producer of EBN ......... blaming on weather, Climate changes and new BHs at agriland. Coming to shortage of new birds, have you ever wonder if no one is breeding swiftlets, where got new bird???? Do we really think that swiftlets really are from heaven????

I swear that I breed swiftlets and never have destroyed a swiftlet's egg or chick intentionally. Can anyone here can swear the same? Some do but the most don't and we, the minority owners unselfishly share our birds with the larger number of BHs.

So, we experiencing lesser nests and now, we experiencing worst trouble in lower price and very selective buying by the buyers. Double blow at the most sensitive part, I would say.

When can we enjoy Double happiness; increment of nests and also price!

what else can we do except stay optimistic.

the way buyers nowadays buy nests are so selective that we will get only reasonable price for white, no feathers nests ( tht is not even half the price we use to get for super). the rest will be either u eat it urself or sell to them at low low cutting throat price. why is that happening...as buyers know what we will face just liked indonesian farmers when their nests are not allow to sell to china due to bird flu n have to sent the nests to malaysia and all the extra costs are been transfer to the farmers there n now their costs are even higher as they need to sent it to vietnam before heading to china.... we are facing the same dillema, with only few buyers are allow to export, with less buyers...just really hope that an association will come out n get a licence and will provide services to small timers to export bn to china...but then again....it will cost them money to do that n where to cover that extra expenses?...farmers.....sai hei....dui lah...

Here susah, there susah so let talk about something not susah.

Can someone here answer the following Questions?

1. When does a swiftlet start laying egg?

2. How many years can a swiftlet live isn't very important but how long can a swiftlet lay eggs?

3. Will the old female swiftlets unproductive ( we men always have Vgra to help,don't we and still strong even till 90+) ........ still return to BH....no. 3 is just a joke and you may not answer it.

It's good to have different options to sell nests to China and different route . So it will be hard to create a monopoli . If they those few" selected "companies do not offer a reasonable price. Then sell to ppl who can submarine them to China one way or another . We bh owners have already enjoyed years of tax free business. I am contemplating in getting out of BN business and move to kundasan and plant cabbage, but at last after 3 months of hardworking and input can only get 50 cents per kg . No lah I think I better migrate but don't know where . Seria and Timbatu too dangerous. Middle east too hot , Europe too cold and too expensive. I am going Mad.