wah...the bn market is dead but here still alive ahh?...Lowyat boleh lah!...

ai yo....V4 kah?....no wonder the market so dead lah.....die lah...die lah.. die lah....


i think selangor ppls should be proud that our local sekinchan datuk open the first in the world, bird's nest bank in puchong yah!!...

we should not be worry as i heard from my friend, he is a powerful business man. with link to former mb n such, i think we are in good hands... u see his face, very Hock mah!!...maybe can bring us some ` Hock !'..

n with the sticker, i think the chinese peoples will forget about the past n start eating bird's nest loh...right?

Actually there is no monopoly what!..the govt already approved 8 licences mah...if monopoly means only one!.

so, if u don't Put RFID sticker in your farm to identify harvested nests are from the certified farm, and then u send ur nests to the First Bird's Nest Bank in puchong, then u wait for the result to show that your Bird's nests contain the natural Nitrite level allow, then u will sell to the certified processors ( which is 8 ) n then u collect money from them!...

so, where got monopoly?


Don't like that lah!....our PM is desparate to gain more votes, don't come in and spoilt it again!...

No Monopoly!....where got monopoly?...just more red tapes mah!!....u cannot take it meh?

this is Malaysia u know!. Even our datuk Liow agreed with what they do!...even tANSRI cheng agree to sell the CERTIFIRD bird's nests in all parson stores in china!!...we must support lah!...


SATU MALAYSIA, SATU BIRD'S NEST BANK, 8 PROCESSORS IN MALAYSIA...WHERE GOT MONOPOLY?

U DON'T LIKE, THEN EAT THE BIRD'S NEST YOURSELF LAH!.


but then ahh....

since china already agreed that they allow natural nitrite level in bird's nests, so, why they still need to put RFID in all farms?....we are not the culprit mah...it is the processors mah...so, they can eliminate this step right?

and then now got so many OZONE machine coming out to help farmers to keep their nests fresh n white and for processors to eliminate nitrite...why still need to do all this?




Bird's nests prices are dead, bird's population is declining...what else?...V5

tak kacau them will increase the bird population or not?...

but even we never kacau them arr...u think they can find enough foods to survive or not?

Bird's population = more birds = need more foods = needs more insects = needs more food for insects = need more plants......blah blah blah....

Datuk lee,

wau lau, u lagi ada sini kah?

i ingat u sudah migrate to vietnam?

yah..yah..yah....ask the 4 kings in indonesia to come back n collect nests lah...we are dying lah....

i don't want to sing christmas song on CNY leh...

silent CNY....holy CNY...so much nests...not so fun...

datuk,

u mean to say NT$4500 a kilo right?...

at least this CNY, i no need to buy white blossom tree...as i can decorate my house with white nests.

u good lah...can sau kong.. we farmers, no choice to sau kong also but with no money coming in but only nests..


what to do. sau kong lah!. tomo will be a better day.


Don't worry be happy.


Always Look On The Bright Side of Life : http://youtu.be/WlBiLNN1NhQ

Sifu Cergau,

ya ahh...can advertise in GROUPON !... With normal price at RM8k, we can now offer RM4k a kilo for processed nests !..
better than throw all the nests to river !.

hmm....can get rid of the nests and ask those AP 1 Malaysia Best to fly kite !!..

i guess we have no other choice but to do it if force us to dead end...

Sifu northface,

yes, u are right. thts what they do and as they will need to look at what u are selling and if ur products are good deals and expected to sell well they will willingly gives u a better rate.

in order for farmers to survive in this situation, u either go out n sell it or wait for luck to come ur way.

u cannot depends on the govt, that all should know.

u cannot depends on your associations,
Just curious, where the hell is all the bird's nest association heads? no one complain though....guess they also get their own AP already if i m not wrong. No way they don't know this thing as all of them are small time bird's nest traders in china using the bird's nest association names.

there is only 8 companies have the AP, who is representing the farmers..NONE.

It is too late to stop it, the only way is to get an AP for ordinary farmers,
How? easy to say then get it....choisui a bit lah...since sau kong already mah...

AP no AP, we are not the only country producing bird's nests.

Creating so many hiccup and monopolize the whole damn industry will only benefit our neighbours, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam.

Those in China who do trading should know how much it affected them with all the news. Depends on your location, some are doing liked zero business for the past few months and only do liked 10% of what they expected to sell on this festival. And don't be envy if they make more profit as raw nests are at lowest ever..How long this situation will goes on? depends the big players how to play with it, pump money and get movie stars becomes ammbasador will helps. look at the new Yu Yan sang ads selling pure white nests bottled instead of selling yellow,pink n white combo nests...then u know...

yah, we are wasting time here blah blah blah about all this, but as i said, choi sui only ya...already sau kong mah.

Out of the 8, already 1 is offering to gives their helping hand to charge us a small sum to use their AP to export bird's nests which is good news for small processors as with these APs, it will wipe out all small processors in kampung that do processing n provides local kampung orang with a job...but what the govt cares, right?.

Sifu cergau, u are a sifu. with ur experience in life, which we chinese said, u makan salt more than we eat rices lah.. so, u still a sifu to me loh. birds sifu no use one, u got one farm with 2 birds, 2 drops birdshits also can becomes sifu already mah..seriously!. just liked u are married, u are a wife sifu mah, u no need to marry so many times to gain experience as a husband mah....ai ya...u cakap sampai mana ni.

back to choi sui. How is the market of China, i heard one Head of association selling liked 30kg a month in china...see, still ok mah. then i heard one friend in beijing selling liked RMB18,000 a kilo mah...ok mah!.

so, after CNY, what can we do with all the nests?

Clean it ourselves n sell it to china directly?

no, come to ah jib soh. hahahaha...

Cleaning and sell it to China is a very big steps and risky too.

but u will be surprised that not all china businessmans are blood suckers. Just do it with cares, and of course, new comers are not liked big taikoh here like kohloh selling hundreds tons of cleaned bird's nests every year.

there are a lot of well, less successful cases of small time processors who managed to sell 3 to 5 kilos a month to china by partnering with malaysian businessmans who are familiar with china. and though they are not making a lot of money but at least it is a start. with the low price of bird's nests, the risk is much lower for those who interested to go in.

look at all the association heads, they too, start small and now selling 20 to 30 kilos a month to china. if compare to big timer liked kohloh, of course cannot compare but who never start small n then becomes big.

Actually, there is only one way and only way that we can eliminate all these nonsense but not guarantee as i never see a white crow before. all crows are black.

And it is not really the best timing to change it too with world market going to collape this year...well, i guess lah...and to change it now is really not the good timing but when will it be good timing...next generation? or after all we die.

but tht is exactly the only way out for all of us.

The only way out whether we liked it or not.

One of my friend say,

U don't bet it now, u lose for sure 100%,
but if u dare to do it, u have 50% chance to win.

Gong Xi Fatt Chai... and i mean betting in Genting Singapore, ok!.

chao.

yah...` Shops with shits and more shits for sale tooo'.

Belum habis new year already got good news coming...Our Strong Selangor State with keadilan and Dap are so strong that they insist of doing the opposite of BN to Pass the law that all farms to move in three years..

See!~....Existing govt squeeze for money from us and leave us with some petty cash and our Going to be Govt don't cares even just wipe us out as long as existing govt agreed to let us survive.

So, Who the Fxxk we want to support?

Support the one that still give us some porridge to makan or

to support the one that don't really cares as their idea is to Pembankang...apa pun oppose saja...

You know i know loh.


how come lowyat no MIDDLE FINGER CLICKABLE SMILIES?? 1000 MIDDLE FINGER TO EXISTING OPPOSITION PARTIES.

don't vote Die harder..

must vote..just don't make the same mistake again to let one party to rule for too long.

take for example, selangor been ruled by opposition party for few years and they start to become...arrogant....so, maybe is it time to change it?

then, all of them will wake up from their dreams that they are not the boss but the rakyat is the boss.

Spread the news!. don't die liao also don't know what happened.

It is not corruption that we converted our shop into bird's keeping. it is THE only way for us to make a living when we can't find anyone to rent out our shops and even if we do business in the area, we will be out in 6 months times as the income will not be enough to even paid the salary of our workers.

Ask one of the pioneer, Datuk B, who have so many abandoned shops that he developed and can't sell out, rotten, grow fungus, polluting the whole town view, damaging the image of Malaysia. And converting them into bird's keeping hostel saved his life.

and the story goes on n on. Go into small towns, i am not talking about Petaling Street town in the middle of KL, or Jalan Ipoh, or Selayang which i do agree not a proper way to have a farm ( but why they do it in the first place??, one of them rent it out and ends up not able to collect rental and one of them, can't rent it out eventhough it is in the middle of the city.

and the story goes on.

though we have many bad apples in our own trade, and the only way is what WW said, off the sound. and i think we have no other choice either. thats the only way out. we will proposed it to our local association.

I think the selangor govt is arrogant as they never go in and research what is the effects of asking thousands of us to move in three years as what they think is important is to get rid of complaints.

Giving three years for us to move, what happen when we move? we don't have money to invest in buying a land, build a new building. We are stuck with our shop and without income, we have to worry about our loan payment, our childrens education expenses, our family expenses. U think we still have money to invest in a new place?

If we closed it down,u think we can rent it out? if we can rent it out and make enough to support to pay the loan installment, we will do that.

Go out, and take a look at all those shops that converted into bird keeping hostel, Why they do it? for fun? to disturb peoples? to test out govt?

It is because we can't do anything with it, thts why!!.

We are no Rich Kids from Rich family or born with a golden spoon..

If you can't think liked that, You are arrogant. You need to change.

10 years ago, when we started this business, the whole economy is DEAD. and 10 years later, The economy is good? some yes, but majority is DEAD too. You want to harm it further by doing that? You are damn stupid and arrogant.

If i am the selangor MB, i will allow it to continue with condition that No more Sounds pollutions meaning no more complaints and to review the license every three years.

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Added on January 31, 2012, 4:50 pmoh..ONE MORE THING.

YOU KNOW WHY WE KEEP BUILDING FARMS IN TOWN??


At the 1st GHP Training in shah alam, THE GOVT ENCOURAGE US TO INVEST TO BUY SHOPS AND CONVERT IT INTO FARMS. THE GOVT SAID IT IS CHEAPER TO DO THAT AND IT HELPS THE ECONOMY AS MANY ABANDONED SHOPS IN MALAYSIA. ANYONE TOOK ANY VIDEO'S ON THAT DAY, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD AND SHOW IT.

WE ARE THE VICTIMS.




This post has been edited by ChanK: Jan 31 2012, 04:50 PM

Ok, now datuk liow also said that no one should build any farms until new ruling comes out and all existing farms might not able to keep operating.

It means BN too will follow what keadilan n dap do to wipe out all 50,000 farms in Malaysia.

[THEY ALL AGREED TO TRANSFER AND HANDOVER THE WHOLE BIRD'S NESTS INDUSTRY TO WEALTHY, RICH MALAYSIANS.

NO MORE AUNTIE OR AH PEK OR AH BENG IN THIS TRADE,

ONLY THOSE WITH CAPITAL OF AT LEAST HALF A MILLION ARE ALLOW IN THIS INDUSTRY .

I think Indonesia, Thailand and vietnam will laugh out loud that our stupid govt willing to wipe out the whole industry and to start all over again... [/B]

Yesterday even radio also start reporting already mah.....but if u can read mandarin then go to chinapress online.


as for now, just harvest nests till botak n dump it to fish pond as fish feed. then catch the fishs and eat to survive. Bird's nest flavored Fishs.

PS# Cheap agri lands for sale at market price. Guarantee got birds and no guarantee got nests as not many new birds lately...seems liked most of the new farms eat `White Fruit' , i mean my area lah eventhough we have 30,000 acres of agri land, longest wetlands in malaysia, rivers n etc.... how come arr?

Really this country needs a real Economic Advisers, not those expert in economics, as experts means know only one thing and tht mean know nothing ( quoted from one of my uncle). A team that consists of street traders and investors.

U tak payah fikir pun tau, why u want to mess up the ordinary peoples rice bowl? They did not ask any assistance from the govt? u no need to gives lands free to us, u no need to gives us cheap loans, u no need to gives ang pow to us during election, u no need to worry that we will strike on the street, u no need to worry that we will form a union.

instead, u come in and put in bill or rules to break our rice bowls as there are cases of peoples complaints. But just liked the PM said, how to maintain the farms in town and not have any complaints. The only thing that really piss them off is the sound. so, just off the sounds. thts it.

All happy, u happy, no more complaints, govt happy, farmers happy, voters all happy !!.

If you going to push ahead with the new ruling, the whole country will ends up with so many abandoned shops, so many bankrupsy, so many unemployed, with all shops value most likedly will lower by at least 30% and even that no one will buy it. local towns economy will be dead.

So, we are more concern with the life of birds than keepers?. What a joke. bloody hxll, who is going to support the family of keepers after that? U? the govt? Vet? Perhilitan?.

Who?

The govt do so much to pump the economy to ensure that thousands of malaysians able to earn a living in manufacturing, construction.

And now u are researching to ensure the safety of birds and kill off all keepers? This is damn stupid. Malaysia boleh.

Thts what i call Expert. Malaysia have too many such experts.

Farmers in town are sad, broke and hopeless.

Land owners are so happy as their agri lands value triple in just two years times. whether the lands are with access roads or not..as long as got birds, they just wallup. even if the lands are next to illegal sand mining site with so many holes, big big holes and the land is in the middle of it, they still wallup it just because they see birds there.

shop owners are very sad as no one is buying their abandoned / Vacated / Rotted shops.

Kopitiams in small towns are so quiet, with not many keepers come out yumcha and talk k.

New shops for sale are forever For Sale.

Shops that are for let are forever For Let.

it is back to square zero or zero square.

How sad. How sad.

Even more sad when the price still baru dua ribu satu ratus if only if white n no buluh. minus tiga ratus kalau biasa quality. lagi sad when ask to take broken nests, please makan sendiri. So Sad.

not even enough to pay ah long interest..

This morning our Datuk liow was quoted in the newspaper that he will very soon be able to fix the problem in exporting of bird's nests. So, with the demolition of all bh's in town, where to find bird's nests? maybe our datuk liow will encourage our neighbour's, mainly indonesia and thailand to sell it to us and we will process it n sell to china.

as for those owners of bh's in town, ini u punya pasal, siapa suruh u dengar kita cakap!!. saya hanya suggest u semua invest in shops and convert it to farms but now we change it and not allow u to do it liao, u chui ah!. so, how? many who bought lands are now able to recover their losses but how many are able to do that? numbered. i owned lands but u think i want to build it and wait for 3 years to see the result and wait for 10 years to only see money start coming in? no way. better invest the money in overseas then wait liked soh h in malaysia.

As i said, our neighbour's are laughing out loud now, hahahahaha.......

This morning our Datuk liaow said he will try to find a way to support us to clear all the stock of bird's nests woh...our gang leaders ( supposed ) said we have tons of bird's nests not able to sell...

wah, so good leh, not bad mah...maybe someone suggest to him to include bird's nests soup in all election organising dinners, lunches, brunches!! then we can take an easy breath loh..

then only worry abt our rice bowl after election.

Our datuk liaow also said that he will adsist us to open up more markets for bird's nests woh...why the fxxk to open more markets when u are in demolition mode? just ask us to fxxk off and get out of your way since no one really cares about us, they only cares about the richy rich group.

Open up more market, go learn vietnamese loh. no need to go far mah, just go vietnam, they have over 2 millions of Super rich there that will eat bird's nests everyday and 8 millions of middle income group that can afford to eat bird's nests once a month.

2,000,000 super rich, one month consume 1000g, that is equivalent to 2,000,000,000g. so, good business mah, should ask your gang to monopolize the market there!...more untung!.

sai hei.