Sweep the BS and place them in several buckets and leave them in diffent spots in the BH. do this every six months so u don't have to step on Thick BS every time u enter yr BH. Spray some water on them every now and then this will realiease strong aroma. After six months remove them and use as feterlizer and repeat the process .

When u have thousands of birds you may consider to build yourself a water tower for each floor of your BH. The exhaust fan will suck in the dusty air steer up by your thousand birds and blow them through the water curtain and eliminate the dust . This will keep the dust to a minimum and u get whiter nests.

One more advantage with this system is you add better cooling in the bh . Most BH get stagnant once you reach 3000 birds . Birds body temp. Is 35 degrees and u imagine the heat produce by 3000 birds or 10,000 birds in the BH at night. All my BHs are equiped with exhaust fan from day one. Good luck

Totally agree with WW. We have only ourself to Blame ! I foresee this coming so sold off my shop lot BHs.

Thank you philoswiflet well said. I fact I think this wake up call will stablished the swiftlets industry as a whole and is benefit both swiftlets farmers and the populations who suffers as a result of in controlled and regulated swiftlets farms.

Fro those who are caught in the cross road I feel very sad but must endure the pain for a better future. Some will shout until they are Bule in the face but pls consider we all must live in harmony with our neighbour they also share the rights to live in a peaceful and healthy environment .

This also opens up opportunities for some to explore so many opportunities and all for a better future.

Please don't cures at me for my comment which is only my personal opinion. Our present predicament is our own making and only myself to blame . I have built my 24 th BHs and in progress my no 25th,26th, and 27th BHs. So I know what I am talking about! Pls be patients things will surely be normal again as the consumers are buying which is important. My friend with 10 processing plants with 1000 wokers was reduced to only 2 working plants told me that demand is back and have all his 10 plants now back to normal. Surely price wil eventually increase.

Thank you coolandy for talking sense rather going on raving and foaming in the mouth and nobody is lessening . Think of a way to sustain and ride out the storm hopelly will soon blow over. I don't think it's the work of BN Goverment trying to destroy our living pls give this paranoid thinking a rest or some may need psychiatric help.

There many factors one of which is the Chinese Goverment trying to curb smuggling of BN into China for so long. The contimenatiom of BN by unscrupulous practices is of cause a concern by the Chinese Authorities and rightly so.

We have to bite the bullet . My fear as I have posted earlier is that this might lead to such a stringent requirements that will be hard to met. Then this inevertablly lead to Monopoly of the imports and trading of BN.

Look at the bright side I am still building for myself 2 more units of BH. If you wait until the price of BN is High then u might miss the boat.This episode has open up opportunity for many to get into BN farming business. land is now available. Contractbprices has gone down. Imcan go on and on.

Thes are just my thought and 2 cents worth. Hope to inspire some! For me full steam ahead.

Spread them out in a air on room . Put a fan over them and they should dry up to 99 %. Place them in a plastic airm tight container. They will keep for years. Have to be very careful handling them as they become very fragile and will break into pieces if you drop them. Hope this will help.

BN farmers don't be discouraged . Be positive we will ride out the stormy weather. Share with all bros a little secret. Chinese companies realizing that the retail prize of BN remain unchanged while raw nests are rock bottom. Chinese buyers are setting up purchasing and processing centers locally . They will then export the BN legally into china for their own distribution.

I am in negotiation with them to set up 3 BHs and a collection and processing center which is ALREADY IN THE WORKS !!! Eventually will have a total of 10 BHs. They are also in palm oil plantation which I am not involved.

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Dame iif you don't. And Dame if you do.! Where does this leave the Beaten bird nests farmers . I thought there is a grimmer of hope .

Thank you TF and others for contributing so much infor, awareness and understanding on nitrites . Although I been involve in BN for eight years all these are new to me . TF must have done lots of research and so willingly share them with us. TF weather is great in KK. Take time off be my guest , come climb your mountain. Cheers.

Be patient kawan . BN AA is now trading between RM2600 o RM2900. North face you got a good deal.

Tomytan try go into other business like oil palm , rubber , coco , veg , chicken, cattle, goat farming with the same capital investment !We should be smiling. Even at 2 k is still the highest price commodity to date.

Tanjong Beach Hotel . KK stopped serving sharks fin soup and is promoting BN soup instead. Hope more outlets will do the same. Don't know in it will met coustomers acceptance . My opinion is ,will be a struggle as is too expensive .

For the record all those consioncious objectors who has been raving and foaming in the mouth cursing the government for destroying the Chinese livelihood has not come forward to say a kind words now that our PM has played a active part in trying to solve the problem. Must give credit where is due ! By the way I am voting opposition GE 13.

If this country is Treating me so badly I will migrate to Timbuktu or seria . If cannot find a easy way out I will consider suicide before they certify me and lock me out in a mental hospital.

It's good to have different options to sell nests to China and different route . So it will be hard to create a monopoli . If they those few" selected "companies do not offer a reasonable price. Then sell to ppl who can submarine them to China one way or another . We bh owners have already enjoyed years of tax free business. I am contemplating in getting out of BN business and move to kundasan and plant cabbage, but at last after 3 months of hardworking and input can only get 50 cents per kg . No lah I think I better migrate but don't know where . Seria and Timbatu too dangerous. Middle east too hot , Europe too cold and too expensive. I am going Mad.

Good suggestion Nana . When I run out of customers I will think about it. Still have 6 pieces of land for on going program. Two under construction. Fresh area without competitor .will come visit for sure.

WW we all are very thankful to you for your enormous contribution to swiftlets and birdnests farmers. We appreciate your courage to speak out without fear and not like some ball carriers. Please be assure that we are behind you and need our learship. It's you right to say what you want And feel especially for the good of the BN industry. Sincerely I say thank you .
I have foreseen this serineo playing up several years ago and when my Bh was raided by the Foreaty Dept. and when I protested to the use of words "Raided" they change the wording to "Inspections" I sold two of my BHs and to "took the road that is less travelled by "and turned to Design/built/commission and sell. "and that has made a different"
I spoke about this new opportunities and Change of strategies many times . I have since been building in stratgic areas in anticipation that BHs in commocial and residential will be force to close shop one day and I will provide sanctuary for the homeless birds and hence the benefits . I think this night be going in the right directions.

Kind regards.

AGREE ! We really hope that there will be as little disruption as possible to the NB industry. The ban from import into China has already done great damage to lots of farmers especially the newcomers who has yet to recoup thir investments.

On the other hand in many areas the unscrupulous BH owners are not cooperative and is damaging And hurting others .

In Sarawak it was reported in today's news that many BHs resort to stealing power supply by illegally tapping into SEB lines. Shame,Shame,Shame !! Not even willing to pay RM 20.00 per month. PUI!!

Believe me there are more anti BH then Pro BH ppl. Yes lots are due to jealousy but many complains are genuine. I do not areee that BN farming have to pay special fees. It's no different from other farming practices like goat farming ,Fish Farmings ,Chicken and pigs Farmings . so why victimized BN Farmings ? Government is suppose to encourage "Alternatinv Farming " BN farming fits the bill perfect ally .

We hope all BN farmers will be decepline and cooperate for the good of fellow BH owners. The recent event shaws that BN business is solely or almostly solely depends on one market , the China Market . Is it wise to be over dependent on BN business and put all the eggs in one bucket? Think !

coolandy I salute your courage ! Many no balls has been raving and foaming in the mouth recently and I bet they will be watching the TV tomorrow and directing the protest from the arm chair in a air con room .
I must amit I lack the courage to do what u do and can only give you and the rest of the protesters my moral support and pray for your safety. You can count on my vote come polling day.
Thank you Bro and May GBU .

All those guys who were kick, slapped and punched repeatly , do you think they will vote for BN come next election ??? All those brave heart who were there who share the pain , who do you think they will vote come next election ??? All those who watch this violent action by the police who are suppose to protect us,who do you think they will vote in the upcoming election? All the ppl who are not sure , will surely kno who to vote for come next election!!!
Thank you to all the brave hearts who risk their limbs and life to fight this proxie war on behalf of the arm chair critics . Least the arm chair critics can do is to return the compliments come next election !

Coolandy is ok . Thanks for your effort to make a different. TG for everyone's safety.

Bancroft I just completed my 25 th BH and building my 26 th and earthwork for 27 th BHs .I will share with you my observation . Every new BH will attract a first wave of birds and in some fresh areas homeless birds. If you build in feeding area with no nearby BHs , young birds will occupie your BH instead of flying a long way home to their BH of birth.

I observed that when this first wave has settled in there is a period of slow growth as in your case. This is normal and population will increase more aggressively during the three peak breeding season particularly May and April.

In exceptional occasion you may be surprised by unusual increase from your neighboring BH being abandon ( due to many reasons) One Bh I designed and commissioned in Kuching in 5 months there was an increase of 1500 birds . This is during the forest fire ragging in Kalimantan .( Here is the 5% luck that I mentioned previously)

I also noted that if the BH is not conducive thisfirst wave of birds . They will abandon the BH and this spell trouble as it will be very difficul to populate such BH dispite putting in lots of efforts including extra feeding and so on.

One technic I use is to leave a large LAL . This make it easy for the birds to come into the Nesting Room and start to stay. You will notice that they will only occupie the utmost end and darkest area. When I observe tha there are no new markings indicating stagnant growth. I will clean the whole BH and place the sweeped Bird Shit and placed them in buckets . Do very aggressive harvesting except those nests with eggs and babies. Next I reduce the size of the LAL . Change external sounds. The clean sweeped floor you will be able to identify new shit spots to assase the number of new birds staying.

This is my practice. Caution do at your own risk . Has work well for me. Good luck! Enjoy this fun reading.