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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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post Nov 30 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Kanelam @ Nov 30 2011, 10:55 AM)
Sorry for my ingorance...
By the count of the nests, when will you be able to get back your investment?

I mean it is not cheap . Lets assume standalone BH costs RM300k...

I heard  that a lot of pp get back their investment in  3 -5 years... .
With this kind of growth nowadays... pp can't even to breakeven in 10 years
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Even my bh 3 years 2500nests need 3 years to break even bro. Cost at 140k. Any BH above rm300k is impossible to break even within 3-4years. But think about long term. Once u break even, your profit would be alot. First few years suffer first.
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post Dec 1 2011, 10:25 PM

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Guys, i wanna ask about something. Recently just done another renovation on my shoplot. As you can see, the left one is the new BH meanwhile the right one is old one. Since both of the BHs are separated by only a woody wall, should I connect both of the BHs? more spaces for swiftlets but i afraid might disturb the birds too.

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post Dec 4 2011, 07:38 PM

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what is the current price for BN? isnt still rm2.5-rm2.8k?
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post Dec 6 2011, 05:40 PM

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Year Started: 31 august 2008
Location: Sarawak
Size: 60 x 30 or 80 x 30 i forgot
Type: monkey house
Results:
1.5year = 1300-nests
2years= 1700-1800nests
3years= 2400-2500nests
3yeyars+ 3months= unknown hopefully can reach 2700-2900nests.

growth slower because alot of new BH around.
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post Dec 6 2011, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(northface @ Dec 6 2011, 06:14 PM)
Bro mois, you should be VERY HAPPY with such a result, I don't think anywhere in peninsular Malaysia can you achieve such growth rate anymore.

Right now your BH is already considered successful, you can even sell it for millions. So just sit back and wait for harvest every 2 weeks!
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Yeah im very happy as well. Already started harvesting when it was 800nests. Wah how u know harvest 2 weeks once? This is exactly what im doing by the time it reaches 2000 nests leh. Now already renovate. See my previous post. But no one give suggestion:(
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post Dec 6 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(northface @ Dec 6 2011, 06:23 PM)
Once a BH reaches over 1k you can harvest every 2 weeks so u don't miss nests that little birds have flown away, I think a lot of ppl know that smile.gif

As for renovation, since yours is so successful already why renovate? I suppose you want to expand your BH but be very careful not to do very drastic changes or it might even affect your current bird population.

I would just build another one beside the successful one haha! biggrin.gif
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Not renovate, just another extension actually haha. Shoplot is linked to the BH. But two separate BHs, now in dilemma whether to operate separately or just open a hole between them. But i guess probably open a hole in between. More spaces for birdies and hopefully percentage of staying there is higher. Just wondering, how much can we harvest monthly if the nest count is 3k, 4k, 5k?
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:09 PM

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Speaking about 10k nests, i dont think monthly harvest only 8-10kg. By the way 10% is kinda too low. Suppose to be 15% at least i guess. That translate 11-13kg monthly. How long does it take to reach 10k nests? I think once reach 10k nests mark, one year nest counts can be increased by few thousand nests!
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(oneup @ Dec 29 2011, 10:08 AM)
Dear WW and other experts,

I inspected my BH today and notice there was a baby bird on the floor. My teacher tell me to pick it up and try to let it fly by itself again, I did and it didn't fly... sad...

I really didn't know what to do abt it, so i decided to place it in one of the empty nests hoping that some other birds will take care of it....

I would like to know what should really been done?

If I leave it on the floor, it will surely die... If I keep try to make it fly... It will die too since it will drop on the floor...

Baby birds need frequent feeding I assume... It is very likely that it won't survive... =(

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If u put on wrong nest, they will kick the baby out. There is nothing you can do except to return back the baby bird into its nest. I always do this and 80% of them survived. I love baby swiflets alot since they like to stick on my finger!
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post Jan 3 2012, 10:50 PM

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Any update on latest pricing? Heard around rm2k per kilo which is low
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post Jan 5 2012, 12:35 PM

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This should be a good news. Happy holding!
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post Jan 5 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 5 2012, 12:38 PM)
Anyone selling more than RM2K lately ?
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The last time i sold is around rm2.8k. Few months back. Hopefully price will over rm3k after cny
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post Jan 6 2012, 02:38 PM

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Malaysian bird’s nests to re-enter China in April

MALAYSIAN bird's nests are expected to re-enter the Chinese market in April, months after allegations surfaced that high levels of nitrate were found in the product, Nanyang Siang Pau and China Press reported.

Chinese ambassador to Malaysia Chai Xi was quoted as saying that the import of bird's nest to China was expected to resume following efforts by both Malaysian and Chinese governments to resolve the matter.

He said a quality inspection management team from China arrived on Dec 28 to establish a permissible nitrate level for the product.

Chai said both governments were committed to resolve the matter after Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak met China Premier Wen Jiabao in Nanning in October.

He stressed that China had not banned the product from Malaysia but only imposed stringent measures to ensure the quality of bird's nests is met.

> Sin Chew Daily reported that Singapore's Orchard Road tops the list on the world's 30 most renowned commercial streets in a survey conducted by French customer survey agency Presence.

Orchard Road stood out for its excellent customer service and clean streets.

Paris' Champ-Elysees, which ranked 16th, provided a refreshing shopping experience but lacked hospitality while the shop assistants were not friendly enough.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9923&sec=nation
So we can expect the ebn price will increase after that huh?

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post Jan 10 2012, 07:34 PM

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Can anyone care to show how u guys store the raw bird nest and to prevent it from turning into yellowish? My method is to dry them up using fan after harvest. Building a chiller room seem to be costly though.
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post Jan 16 2012, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(northface @ Jan 16 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yesterday harvested 3 more kg, looking at all these nests at the store room  icon_question.gif
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Hahaha same bro. How do u store ur nest?
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:21 PM

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How is everyone after cny? Great? Any great news to share?
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post Feb 1 2012, 09:33 AM

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Chank bro i think there is no need for u to highlight those word or make them big. And where is the source stating all farms should be closed?
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post Feb 8 2012, 12:12 PM

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Hi guys, i notice there are rushing activities lately especially the buyers part. They keep calling us to sell around rm2000 for full cup nest. But rm2k is still kinda low for us so kinda hesitate to sell those nests but probably will sell the yellowish one. Rm500 difference per kilo can easily pay off my tuition fee!
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post Feb 25 2012, 10:26 PM

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Now market price up to rm2500 already?
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post Feb 26 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Feb 26 2012, 11:44 AM)
Wah ban everything. Habis liao.
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post Feb 27 2012, 12:12 PM

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West wing

Some of your logics make sense but some of them are not. Since you said we cannot predict the future and the storm might last few months or years, we cannot simply keep the nest for half year. Mind you, keeping nests over 20kgs already make us headache. And there are many type of farmers in the market. Rich, poor, breakeven, non breakeven. The rich farmer maybe can keep 50kgs-100kgs, thus great holding. Poor farmer cannot afford to keep that long, they got to pay car and house loan.

Those BH already breakeven one can sell at any price they want because no matter what price they sell, they are making profit. To hold or not, it is up to them whether they feel more comfortable to hold cash or bird nest. BIRD NEST CAN BE HARVESTED AGAIN. Once they sell, the money can be invested in other things.

You see, this is a free market. Hold--supply short--price up doesnt work that easily. Not everyone is millionaire, so they just cant hold it else who want to pay their daily expenses, loans and other things? If they are rich, maybe can jual mahal decline to sell like a boss. You forgot one more thing, price is cheap now and it is now more affordable to consume nests. Your other logics make sense, just slightly biased on holding bird nest part. Just my 2cents as a farmer and 1st year degree student smile.gif



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