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tatagal
post Oct 12 2011, 04:30 PM

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When I get my D7k kit, the promoter says that it is good enough with the LCD cover that comes with the camera. So do I still need the buy the LCD protector to stick in the screen in order to protect it or it is sufficient with just the tag along screen cover?

Another thing is that, since I am buying the D7k kit, it should come with the lens hood rite? I cant find it anywhere? Is it the promoter left it out or it does not come with the lens where we need to buy seperately?

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post Oct 12 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Oct 12 2011, 05:30 PM)
When I get my D7k kit, the promoter says that it is good enough with the LCD cover that comes with the camera. So do I still need the buy the LCD protector to stick in the screen in order to protect it or it is sufficient with just the tag along screen cover?

Another thing is that, since I am buying the D7k kit, it should come with the lens hood rite? I cant find it anywhere? Is it the promoter left it out or it does not come with the lens where we need to buy seperately?

Thanks.
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Try going back to the shop n ask...mine comes with the hood...I think they had left out when then examine the stock...
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post Oct 12 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(coffeetea @ Oct 12 2011, 04:35 PM)
Try going back to the shop n ask...mine comes with the hood...I think they had left out when then examine the stock...
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Ok. Thanks! So do you still get a LCD protector since it came with the cap?
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post Oct 12 2011, 04:43 PM

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D7000 comes with a LCD protector.
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post Oct 12 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 04:43 PM)
D7000 comes with a LCD protector.
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Ya. maybe i use the wrong term. actually i mean is the sheet sticking on the screen before putting the LCD protector.
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post Oct 12 2011, 05:19 PM

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Depends on your nego with the shop, since it already comes with the plastic screen protector very unlikely for them to give you a film type already.

But anyways, the Nikon free screen protector is no good. Once you have particle trapped in between, you risk scratching your LCD.
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post Oct 12 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 05:19 PM)
Depends on your nego with the shop, since it already comes with the plastic screen protector very unlikely for them to give you a film type already.

But anyways, the Nikon free screen protector is no good. Once you have particle trapped in between, you risk scratching your LCD.
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I bought from Digitalsmania, Rm3750 wif kitlens, good price or not?


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:59 pmact. i ma quite new to DSLR and I am going to take wedding photos for my fren, of coz is FOC!

The wedding is a dinner held in the chinese restaurant!
and i dun have a flash gun!

Is there any useful tips for photograph taking with kit lens for beginner?

I saw some website recommending to use AF-S with AF assist illuminator. Is it a better idea to take photos in A mode or P mode?

I have read the manual and try playing the camera using P, S, and A mode! It is quite simple to understand and differentiate S mode and A mode! But once it comes to P mode, I am abit confused what is the main diffrence compare to the other two mode (as for A mode, when you increase the F number, the shutter speed will also increase,so does P mode, in order to achieve optimal expossure)?

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post Oct 12 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Oct 12 2011, 06:45 PM)
I bought from Digitalsmania, Rm3750 wif kitlens, good price or not?


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:59 pmact. i ma quite new to DSLR and I am going to take wedding photos for my fren, of coz is FOC!

The wedding is a dinner held in the chinese restaurant!
and i dun have a flash gun!

Is there any useful tips for photograph taking with kit lens for beginner?

I saw some website recommending to use AF-S with AF assist illuminator. Is it a better idea to take photos in A mode or P mode?

I have read the manual and try playing the camera using P, S, and A mode! It is quite simple to understand and differentiate S mode and A mode! But once it comes to P mode, I am abit confused what is the main diffrence compare to the other two mode (as for A mode, when you increase the F number, the shutter speed will also increase,so does P mode, in order to achieve optimal expossure)?
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The price is around there...+-RM50...

try not to use flash gun during wedding...What i did was i juz took the shot at the moment then only i fix it with lightroom...

You can get some ideas through the internet concerning the modes...i usually fix my setting in U1 & U2...faster...lol
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post Oct 12 2011, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Oct 12 2011, 05:45 PM)
I bought from Digitalsmania, Rm3750 wif kitlens, good price or not?


Added on October 12, 2011, 5:59 pmact. i ma quite new to DSLR and I am going to take wedding photos for my fren, of coz is FOC!

The wedding is a dinner held in the chinese restaurant!
and i dun have a flash gun!

Is there any useful tips for photograph taking with kit lens for beginner?

I saw some website recommending to use AF-S with AF assist illuminator. Is it a better idea to take photos in A mode or P mode?

I have read the manual and try playing the camera using P, S, and A mode! It is quite simple to understand and differentiate S mode and A mode! But once it comes to P mode, I am abit confused what is the main diffrence compare to the other two mode (as for A mode, when you increase the F number, the shutter speed will also increase,so does P mode, in order to achieve optimal expossure)?
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Remember these few hints if you're shooting wedding dinner indoors (without flash)

1. Depending on your focal length, use correct shutter speed to prevent shaky photos. If you're shooting action, don't lose those shots to low shutter speed, you would rather bump the ISO so that you have a good shutter speed and have some noisier photos (this can be fixed in PP), than shaky photos that are totally irrecoverable

2. Get your WB (white balance) right. Usually the restaurant will have more yellowish lights, so it's better if you could set to a correct WB. I bet most shots are "normal" group photos, and people will argue with me to shoot RAW then fix later. Well, you will appreciate how much lesser PP will be done and speed up your workflow. Besides, any layperson don't really like yellowish photos and that will be usually the obvious "flaw" they comment.

3. When shooting group photos, try to use a smaller aperture (e.g. about 5.6-7.1) so that you can ensure a larger DOF to have everyone in focus.

4. For A mode (Aperture-priority mode), it's a semi auto mode whereby when you fix the aperture value and let the camera figure out the shutter speed to get you an optimal exposure based on how you meter your subject. Remember also that not just making the f value bigger (smaller aperture) will make the SS slower (to get more light). If you increase the ISO, it can make the SS goes faster as well, which goes back to tip #1.

1 thing I want to point out about A mode is that many beginners tend to become careless when the camera decide the shutter speed for them. When you use a flashgun, you can lock down the minimal shutter speed like let's say 1/60s for the A mode. Sometimes, if you're not paying enough attention, the camera may decide for you a very slow shutter speed like 1/15s, 1/20s, 1/30s while he/she may be zooming at the longest focal length, say 55mm on a 18-55 kitlens or 18-105 kitlens. I've seen a case before where the person using the DSLR was shooting at a very low ISO rating, around ISO200-400 indoors without flash, resulting very shaky pics and almost close to became unusable. So you have to be extra careful on this.

S mode (Shutter-priority mode) in weddings, well the common usage I can think of is during the Actual Day whereby you would want to do a panning shot at the wedding car as you would lock down to a slow shutter speed and let the camera decide the F value for you)

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 12 2011, 11:27 AM)
yes is not cheapo lens but once you buy it can tahan long long long long time XD
and i said 24-70 because i "heard" it is good XD...when times come and my saving is allow to "bleed all at once" then i will drag my friend go test first...wan see the bokeh XD...since last time he show me his normal zoom lens..i think is tamrom or sigma i forget... 24-70 f/2.8 one... he said zoom lens also can produce nice bokeh too.
Errr... Bleed also must bleed smartly. Buying the 24-70mm and complain later that the 24mm end on DX is not wide enough is silly bleeding.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 11:44 AM)
I know there is convertor for Canon, but is there a convertor for Nikon to use Canon mount? Besides, you loose the AF capability and also adding up the cost of lens + convertor would be even more. Since you are already paying so much, why bother with a convertor? Not like Nikon doesn't have a 24-70.
Convertor to use Canon lenses on Nikon bodies does not exist. Besides, why do you want to use a lower grade lens when you can use a Nikon? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 12:01 PM)
Besides i think 70200 at 200mm f/2.8 does better bokeh than 50mm at f/1.8 ._.
Agreed. Wait till you see bokeh shot from from a 300mm f/4. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 12:07 PM)
Thanks for the links. Excellent. Learn something new. I tested the first link and it works great. But what about lens serial number? Does it get recorded in the EXIF?

QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 12 2011, 01:54 PM)
Thanks a lot
Yea. I realized that also. If I'm the only one using the camera, I'm fine with getting the tokina 11-16. But I'm sharing the camera with my sister. @_@ I can manual focus, but not sure my sister can use it or not. I heard it's not hard doing manual focus with UWA lens. Is that true? Or should I just invest on Sigma 10-20 / Nikkor 10-24 instead?
Not hard especially in daytime if you learn the hyperfocal technique.

If you have money, get the Nikon 10-24.

QUOTE(pziv2 @ Oct 12 2011, 01:58 PM)
Help! My D3100's mirror is jammed in the down position. I can take a photo but what i've got is a blank image since the mirror is not flipping up.

This is not mirror-lock up!

Any ideas about why is this happening?
Did you try to take out battery and put it back in?

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 01:59 PM)
SD card? it was selling RM109 at KLPF.
Wah, you rush around with the crowd, look round and round to find parking at MV and burn petrol plus parking, the is the RM 17 worth saving? rclxub.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Convertor to use Canon lenses on Nikon bodies does not exist. Besides, why do you want to use a lower grade lens when you can use a Nikon?  biggrin.gif
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Fortunately, there is no lens from Canon that would lure me to do that. laugh.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Agreed. Wait till you see bokeh shot from from a 300mm f/4.  biggrin.gif
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Tried the 200-400 f/4 at 400mm f/4 before. Amazing! Now I wonder what kind of bokeh would a 400mm f/2.8 yield... flex.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Wah, you rush around with the crowd, look round and round to find parking at MV and burn petrol plus parking, the is the RM 17 worth saving?  rclxub.gif
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I went there wanting to test the V1/J1... didn't get to sad.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 12:01 PM)
No.
What technique to make your zoom lens for bokeh? Shoot closer? Find far away background? Those aren't 'techniques' they are just knowledge you can use to your advantage.

Besides i think 70200 at 200mm f/2.8 does better bokeh than 50mm at f/1.8 ._.

You need to understand, aperture is not the only thing affecting bokeh. Focal length does as well, same goes to your distance to your focus point and also the background distance to your focus point.
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i said "THAT TIME" laaaa, adui. sweat.gif
anyway if i wan use 24-70mm f/2.8 OR 24mm f/1.4 to create bokeh, which one is easier? i know zoom lens can create a nice bokeh but still need meet certain requirement right? nod.gif
then the "certain requirement" is hard to do or not since you tested both lens liao i think. hmm.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Errr... Bleed also must bleed smartly. Buying the 24-70mm and complain later that the 24mm end on DX is not wide enough is silly bleeding.
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i use 35mm on DX alraedy feel ngam ngam wide, so 24mm is not enough wide? whistling.gif
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24mm should be damn wide on FX, but 17mm on DX not so wide.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Thanks for the links. Excellent. Learn something new. I tested the first link and it works great. But what about lens serial number? Does it get recorded in the EXIF?
Wah, you rush around with the crowd, look round and round to find parking at MV and burn petrol plus parking, the is the RM 17 worth saving?  rclxub.gif
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i dont think its possible yet for the lens to transfer serial number to the exif data.
and i didnt park at MV...park at gardens slightly easier to find parking.


Added on October 12, 2011, 7:48 pm
QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:28 PM)
24mm should be damn wide on FX, but 17mm on DX not so wide.... sad.gif
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24mm and FX, and 17mm on DX due to crop factor which becomes 25.5mm have almost the same field of view.
so how can the 24mm be damn wide?

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Hehehe... I'm kind of greedy at that 1mm extra. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:01 PM)
Errr... Bleed also must bleed smartly. Buying the 24-70mm and complain later that the 24mm end on DX is not wide enough is silly bleeding.
Convertor to use Canon lenses on Nikon bodies does not exist. Besides, why do you want to use a lower grade lens when you can use a Nikon?  biggrin.gif
Agreed. Wait till you see bokeh shot from from a 300mm f/4.  biggrin.gif
Thanks for the links. Excellent. Learn something new. I tested the first link and it works great. But what about lens serial number? Does it get recorded in the EXIF?
Not hard especially in daytime if you learn the hyperfocal technique.

If you have money, get the Nikon 10-24.
Did you try to take out battery and put it back in?
Wah, you rush around with the crowd, look round and round to find parking at MV and burn petrol plus parking, the is the RM 17 worth saving?  rclxub.gif
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thanks.. i'll consider the 10-24 then.. smile.gif i do manual focus half the time wan.. so i'm alright with it, just worry my sister find it hard to use..

btw.. i heard there is some event on midvalley concourse on 19-23 Oct.. i heard it from radio.. cannot remember what event was that.. you all know anything about that?
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Some 50mm f/1.8G samples tongue.gif,

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 08:25 PM)
Some 50mm f/1.8G samples tongue.gif,
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omg.. poison poison.. make me feel like going 1 utama nao.. >_<
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omg.. poison poison.. make me feel like going 1 utama nao.. >_<
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What's at 1U? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 08:41 PM)
What's at 1U?  unsure.gif
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either

1. buy the 50mm f1.8G lens
2. thought the leng luis and the cars are there

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