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post Sep 22 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM)
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
May I ask what lens are you using?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 09:31 PM)
Nope, I have taken many shots at f/1.4 with recompose technique. It isn't an issue, or rather even if there is differences it isn't big.
Which focus do you use? AF-C or AF-S ?

Sometimes I use just the centre focus and recompose when camera is set to using AF-C, 51 point 3D tracking and under dynamic AF area mode,. The focus will lock on the subject after half-press focus lock and will automatically shift to remain focused on the subject after you recompose.

QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2011, 11:10 PM)
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Like candies. biggrin.gif Nikon should have named the cameras as 1Nikon instead.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2011, 11:39 PM)
Aperture doesn't get factored into crop factor... only on teleconverters
I think what sakurakinomoto should be referring to is putting the MF 1200-1700mm f/5.6-8.0 lens on the Nikon 1.

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But nevertheless, the 1200mm f/11 lens does exist in the Nikon world in the form of MF 360-1200mm f/11 zoom.

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post Sep 22 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 22 2011, 11:34 AM)
well can't compare V1, J1 with existing nikon DSLR model. The objective of their mirrorless system is allow user alternative to jump from compact to another level higher but not a DSLR.

So some comprised are made on IQ, ISO, and etc. Think as an alternative and fun playing camera!

Anyway what the price in Malaysia? The variety of colours are cute! wub.gif
I agree on the part of people upgrading from compact to another level but not a DSLR. But paying so much for it does not make sense. rclxub.gif You have cheaper PnS alternatives in the market that can give you COMPACT + features close to a DSLR system. Of course noise wise, the bigger DSLR sensor still wins any which way you see it. Yes, it's nice that we can use existing FX or DX lenses but looking at the size of the mounted lens, it does not make sense that the person intended to buy the V1/J1 cameras for compactness. rolleyes.gif Lens + body completes the equation. Good body with junk lens will get you junk.

Looking at some of the samples, it's not too bad. Did not give the wow factor though. Obvious one is edge smearing which should not happen on a super crop sensor. Perhaps the NEF should yield better.

From the looks of it, the new Nikon lineups are just to appease the PnS crowd. The Nikon folks think that they can jump on the bandwagon and attract the younger crowd with gaudy colors and simple style. Most people who appreciate picture quality will pass on these crayola cameras and stick with more substantial stuff especially with the DSLR market so competitive now.
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post Sep 22 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Sep 22 2011, 11:57 AM)
and how come the spec list got PASM mode but it's not in the wheel?
Where did it state?

I read that you can still access it the conventional PASM in the menu but the knob is replaced by four positions which represent different applications of high speed stills and movie recording. The 'Motion Snapshot' mode combines a slow-motion movie with a simultaneously-recorded still image, while the 'Smart Photo Selector' mode takes 20 full-resolution images from a single shutter-button press (including some captured before the button is fully depressed), then analyses them,saving what it judges to be the best five (even recommending the very best of the bunch). There's just a single position to cover all aspects of conventional stills shooting, plus one more for movies.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/328171341...rst-impressions
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post Sep 23 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:10 PM)
my thought,

nikon 1sytem target casual shooter,
target newbie.

u ask newbie , heck even some amateur they don't even know what is crop factor sweat.gif

you explained to them , they still blur blur wan.

so i assume its targeting casual people who wants simply take picture only.
Smart casual users should not be trapped into buying something very expensive when you can get it as good and cheaper elsewhere with PnS nowadays.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
one reason for getting the V1 / J1 is so can mount current AF-S lenses and maintain full AF in a smaller body.
and then 70-200 will become 189-540 f/2.8  drool.gif
Yup, that's the only thing I find useful. But people must remember that newbies and casual shooters don't usually happen to own a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens. whistling.gif It's only serious enthusiast like us would be gila enough to want that body just for the purpose of the crop factor.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:08 PM)
If it's only casual shooting they are targeting, might as well spend the RnD fund in their coolpix division and make a small sized, pocketable prosumer cam? Nikon's P-series are actually a very capable line they could improve on.
Precisely. They could do a lot to improve their Coolpix line. Currently, they are playing catch up with the other players. I use to remember Nikon was famous for their Coolpix 800, 950, 990 and 995. They set a benchmark while others just follow.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:54 PM)
fish eye ? how crop  if pic HEAVILY distorted ?
I know u can use software correct it, but it wont work well.

u want wide angle ability, be a real man, buy real UWA lens.

after all fish eye is not regarded UWA lens as fish eye lens is different with normal lens.
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post Sep 29 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 28 2011, 08:07 PM)
Nikon coming out with a 70-200 f4 soon i hope >.<
Nikon recently patent for  both 70-200mm f/4 VRII & 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6
The f/4 is about time.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
I bought lenses that were already 10 years old. Now it's already close to 15 years old.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM)
Spam sikit... tongue.gif

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Nice. rclxms.gif Could not join some of my friends down in Malacca last weekend as I was in Singapore instead.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:20 PM)
oh i tot he using D700 pulak laugh.gif

why lah jump to same grade
60D is 1.6x crop body.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:30 PM)
spam a bit... guess what lens? brows.gif

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You should just abandon the idea of getting an FX body and get whatever Nokia replaces the N8.

QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 12:49 AM)
lmao.. you seriously jump ship.. i tot you joking with me that time.. sudd jump ship.. shock dao me~

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This is one of my best ones edi.. sad.gif so far haven't manage to get nice shots
Not bad. Is this stitched? I miss HK.


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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:05 PM)
We need to be in reality. That's what happening to the photography culture at the moment. Many people (but not all) thought they could produce the same quality given they're using the same gears. Even better photos when they're on better gears. We certainly need to straighten this out. I'm not saying you or anyone is one, but we shouldn't lack or only focusing in gears than building own skills. That should be what counts the most before even better gears. My 2 cents smile.gif
Well, if Nikon thinks that a photographer is only as good as the equipment he uses, it must be correct, right? j/k

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 04:34 PM)
Of mainly by his potrait skill. He's the otai of potraits here brows.gif

Why I want a 85 1.4? No matter how good my skill is, I can't use a Tamron 17-50 to produce pics like that can I? tongue.gif
It's not that. What vearn27 is trying to imply is that don't expect your photos to transform magically just because you have good gear. Don't blame your gear if you don't get the photos you like.

I think from your last few post, you seem to be asking if this is better, that better etc which seems to indicate that you're more concerned about gears than skill.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
Which one?  brows.gif
D90,
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D700,
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Dunno man. For that example, I think the D90 one is better for me.

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share from canon thread.

no need bokeh also can  smile.gif
Agreed.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM)
F1 is the hardest,
even you can go in this year, doesn't mean next year you can...

actually celciuz, why don't try on hillstand ?
Actually, if you really want to get close to F1 action, Singapore F1 night race is better.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 3 2011, 12:29 AM)
Yeah, the paid media. But to get the free pass, you need to have publication. MotoGP and F1 more or less equally tough, since both are international events.
Hmm... let's see.. maybe for motogp... any samples of the views from hillstand?
This year's F1, I shot from K1 grandstand. I shot from Tower before previously on practice days.

The only time I got to experience the Hillstand is in 2006 where I shot from C2 Hillstand. I was on 1.5x D70 body + 300mm f/4 + 1.4xTC.

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This is after crop kau kau.

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QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
Spam one for afternoon

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Btw for those with calibrated monitor, do the pic look too cold? icon_question.gif
Looks ok. Skin looks fine too but no idea if it's ok since office just change to U2312HM monitors.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Oct 4 2011, 11:19 AM)
On September 29th, digicame-info published those Nikon D800 specs (Google translation):

    What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels.
    4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
    A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
    Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
    Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
    86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
    Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
    Two media CF card and SD card slot.
    Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
    Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.
Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz1ZmOT1X5y
hopefully it'll be less than 9k. 300k yen is RM12.5k
Don't know if the rumour is true or not. 36MP is very heavy and huge jump. Is the current lens lineup up to job? Is the noise performance going to be as good as the current FX bodies? I'm starting to think what kind of computing power is required to process the NEF files. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 4 2011, 04:23 PM)
if the D800 is not release in my target date, should i get a macro lens as a figure shooting lens + normal walkaround lens and rest of the fund to repair my D70s?  hmm.gif
(then had to re-saving my fund for body liao  unsure.gif )
The new 40mm f/2.8 is nice but it's DX. You can optionally get the 60mm f/2.8 which is a macro too. Superb and sharp lens.

I think for your stuff, a new D700 is overkill. 2nd hand would be ideal.

QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Oct 4 2011, 09:14 PM)
about 3-5fps would be good enough for most of us. even the good sports photographers almost never fire at full burst modes, they'd fire short bursts. what matters more to them would be the short shutter lag offered by high-end cameras.
Spot on. Short shutter lag rulez. I'm no pro lah but I seldom utilise the full 8fps on the D700. Max is a few 4 or 5 shots in a row. Of course 8fps or more is nice to have. For 8fps, it just means that in 0.5 seconds, I can shoot 4 frames.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
now i scare when they announced the caamera, MYR drop liek hell then my savings is like .... had to wait longer.....sad.gif
Start investing in gold. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
Sifu all,

Lend me your opinion on this please.
Which 1 to get?
Sorry. The Nikkor still wins.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 5 2011, 10:15 AM)
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you mean these ?  brows.gif

but gold now also hard to invest.

**P/S: that gold bars is not mine  sweat.gif
Why hard to invest? Now turun harga already but sure to pick up soon. Just in time when D800 comes out. laugh.gif

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 5 2011, 10:40 AM)
btw, if the rumoured D800 image quality is as good or better than the D3x, i will get it in a heart beat. pair it with carl zeiss lenses
I would imagine that it would be better than the D3X. And the D4X would thump everybody else.

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 5 2011, 12:09 PM)
hiya all..

am planing to trade in my D90 soon for a D700 (if D700s/D800 come out by mid 2012 then i really doh.gif)

i need some opinion to pick my 1st FX lens... i primarily use my camera for shooting when traveling smile.gif

which do u guys think is best as a traveling lens??

1) AF-S NIKKOR 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

2) AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR

3) AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

lets assume budget is not a problem ATM

thanks y'all in advance  notworthy.gif
Difficult question. Where are you traveling to? Is reach important or wide angle important? For traveling, most of the time is wide angle side that is required.

If you're switching to FX body as in NOW, the 28-300mm VR would be the lens to get for travelling but if you're still gonna use it on the D90, the wide end will not be wide enough. If that being the case, the 24-120mm f/4 VR should give some compromise.

If money is really no object, go with 24-70mm f/2.8 + 70-200mm f/2.8 VR. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Sadru @ Oct 5 2011, 05:00 PM)
hi all fellow nikonians,
i am currently in dilemma regarding issue whether to go for 50mm f/1.8g @ sb700.

my current gear were basic d90 with 18105vr

were graphic student and my budget were below rm800 atm to spend.. normally i would prefer to shoot human/portrait on daily basis.
there will be some portrait assignment coming on later, as i read prime were good for portrait and the flashgun also play important role within that category..

i know there definitely will be some limitation without the flashgun, but would 50mm f/1.8g justifies for the price? would it be sufficient enough for portraiture shot? i also inclined toward flashgun but with these rm800 budget, i am totally torn on which to choose on the first buy.

im leaning toward 50mm but the flashgun would also come in handy, whats your call on this guys?
help~!  cry.gif
Depends... You're into available light (50mm f/1.8) or flash photography (SB700)?
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 6 2011, 08:47 AM)
celciuz, nikonrumors.com said there might be 2 version of the d800. perhaps one is 36mp another is 18mp.
Perhaps that is the interchangeable sensor design that Nikon patented? It would be cool that you can change sensor in one body to suite different occasions.

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 6 2011, 08:47 AM)
1/8000 second of a shutter speed is not fast enough for you?
Perhaps he wants something like the 1/12000 s shutter spec of the Minolta Maxxum 9. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 6 2011, 12:29 PM)
hope they add slo-mo mode in video then i syok lor. tongue.gif
I would not be surprised. PnS technology like face detection also incorporated already.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 6 2011, 12:42 PM)
maybe the 1/16000" frm 1D  flex.gif
Yup, I missed on that one.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 7 2011, 04:05 PM)
and one stupid question, when you guys buy a camera like exceed the ATM machine limit let's say D700... 8k la that time...then how you pay it with cash?

or take cash ealier few days? like split 4 days each take 2k myr each time?
if the ATM machine limit you take 2k per day...
Debit / Credit card?

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 8 2011, 10:15 AM)
kinda disappointed with the sales assistant in various shops.

went to sony and asked about the NEX 7. thought maybe got display set to see see or play play, they asked me back what is NEX 7? got NEX 3 and 5 nia.

went to digicolor and ask for step up rings they said they dunno what it is.

saw some stalls selling lexar and wanted to know what x200 speed is in terms of mb/s, they look at me and said it's 200 times faster than normal wan loh.

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Don't you know in Malaysia, you need to do all the homework before buying? When you want to buy, just go to the right shop and get ready the money.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 8 2011, 01:52 PM)
And my 60MB/s Extreme rated at 400x,
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Aiks... Is that new packaging? Bought mine just before my Singapore trip from US two weeks ago.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 8 2011, 04:53 PM)
Just back from a company event, 17-55 is damm sharp. And make me look pro too. hahahaha

Seriously if DX, its really King.
Good that you liked your purchase.

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 9 2011, 01:12 AM)
really??? I juz got my D700 wif 24-70 F2.8 lens today... n the boss told me price drop and gave me extra RM200 discount.. (body + lens = RM11700)

so am i lucky??  sweat.gif
Sorry but I think that's nothing to shout about. That would be like RM 6k for the D700 and RM 5.7k thereabouts for the lens. Pretty normal price me thinks...

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 9 2011, 02:17 AM)
i think Nikon Malaysia also have policy that their equipment sud be sold at the RRP...

the boss of the shop i go to keep warning me every time i buy something, not to inform Nikon Malaysia about the price he give me... or he will get into trouble... he says it jokingly so i dunno he serious or not  sweat.gif

but this policy make senses becoz too much pricing competition will eliminate a lot of small time sellers and concentrate the market into a few big players... meaning they will have Nikon's ball in their hands...

or cud be the official nikon stores r complaining becoz they cant sell anything... rolleyes.gif
Don't know but thinking about it, who's to stop you from selling something and getting little profit margin, breaking even or even selling at a loss? Nobody can dictate how one should conduct his own business.

QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 9 2011, 09:07 AM)
AF was ok for me but the menus are frustrating and I always double press the wheel button. And spending almost 4k to be stuck with one lens is not for me although the 35mm is my fav focal length.
Entirely agree. ! biggrin.gif I don't buy a camera equipement just to look good or fashionable. I buy something because of function. Just like camera bags. I prefer buying something that would function and protect your gears rather than looking good and have limited carying space.

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 9 2011, 11:02 AM)
ya... the boss is a very good salesman laugh.gif i think he sells on average a DSLR every day  sweat.gif

it is a shop in Komtar Penang.. Foto Easycam...
Sleezy guy, smooth talker.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 9 2011, 02:26 PM)
I wish I could sad.gif dreaming of a D700
Yeah but what did he do to protect the cam and how long was he in temperatures below zero?
How long and how cold are you expected outside with the camera? rolleyes.gif

My lowly D70 lasted for a good half hour in a -40 degree C simulated Antarctic blizzard environment at the NZ Antartic centre.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 10 2011, 12:27 PM)
Another point is, diffraction kicks in later say at about f/11, where else for D7000 its f/9 (or lesser...)
Well, you get around the same DoF on the crop sensor even though at bigger aperture.

QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Oct 10 2011, 12:48 PM)
sup. House got broken into last week. D90 + 300mm F2.8 VR2, laptop and Billingham got stolen.  smile.gif
Feel sorry for your lost. Covered by insurance? Anything else not camera related got stolen or just camera equipment?

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 10 2011, 02:57 PM)
I was talking about the focus points smile.gif
How is more focus points on the D7000 helping you in your shooting that the D90 cannot? You shoot sports?

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 10 2011, 04:02 PM)
ya but if too expensive i still can buy the old model mah... brows.gif
Well, what I predicted in the beginning was not correct. It's more expensive than the D700 !

See... If you had bought one earlier, you would be enjoying taking pics already.

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 10 2011, 05:47 PM)
85G on a D90 is like a Ferrari engine on a Honda Civic body? sweat.gif 130mm vs 85mm, hurm that's a lot of difference for indoor  hmm.gif
.

But Vettel in a Honda Civic body and a Ferrari engine would probably still win the WC. biggrin.gif

Don't be like Nikon. Gears don't define a photo. It's the photographer that makes the difference.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 10 2011, 06:12 PM)
The reason i share this here, is because:

1) With limited budget, buying a wrong gear will set u back to your beloved hobby
2) Know your objective behind every purchase. I knew a new lens will help me in my career by gaining me exposure as well as opening the door for me to possibly one day good enough to earn money through it.
3) A gear head with the best gear doesnt optimize the $ vs value. E.g. Instead of getting 17-55 2.8, if only i get 70-200, or 24-70, i doubt i could use the lens as often as i want to. Since i am on a limited budget, a lens / equipment that give u the best value for money is the best.
4) Buy within your means and plan forward, i could have upgrade my D5100 to D7000, after i learned that D7000 is better in almost every sense, still there is no reason at all for me to do that, because i have plan, if everything goes right, i will change my body when the next generation gear come out.

Just my 2 cents.
Spot on.

BTW, you already got a sifu to follow. Why ask questions here? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 11 2011, 01:55 PM)
I asked a photographer here. How's the D700? He said the colour was normal, no big difference compared to the D90. Only thing was it's full frame. He used a D90 + 70-200 VR1 before, then he swapped to 5D Mark II + 135 f2. He's happy till now coz he said the 5DMKII gives a nice tone to the picture hmm.gif
Many a time, people are very tempted to bump up saturation and use Vivid profile. While this may work on some shoots, it works horrible on skintones. When you shoot with flash or at high ISO, the skintone looks overcooked.

Stick to Standard or Neutral picture style.

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 11 2011, 02:35 PM)
No what I meant was he was happy with the D90, then he wanted to upgrade, so he choosed the 5D instead of the D700 because of the tone it gives out. And he's a good photographer IMO, doesn't care much about his gear. Most of the top photographers here uses 5DMKII doh.gif
That's the most ignorant statement ever made. Where is here? Here as in Malaysia or here as in LYN forum?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 11 2011, 06:37 PM)
I like Vivid  wub.gif even for my portraits  laugh.gif
QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 11 2011, 06:39 PM)
So do I!
Errr... That's because Vivid does not do a single thing when you open your NEF under Lightroom. So whatever set is just placebo effect in your mind. It's the same effect like using Standard or Neutral picture style.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 11 2011, 06:47 PM)
Therefore, anyone care to share the knowledge for lens comparison?
I think it all boils down to surface coating / treatment. Where I work in a different industry, we do a lot of surface treatment on metals that we consider company secret / proprietary information. So chances of getting more info is close to non existent.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 11 2011, 08:47 PM)
Does it mean that the more elements in a lens construction, the sharper the image will be? Apple added another element into their camera phone and claim it will enhance the sharpness of the photo.
There is a point of diminishing returns. More elements can give a lot of rise to flare.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 11 2011, 10:18 PM)
24-70 f/2.8 non L or non gold ring?  laugh.gif
Got... Lens mug.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 11 2011, 10:52 PM)
But 17-55 f/2.8 for Canon is not regarded as a pro lens biggrin.gif
The prices screams of pro price.

I rather have non pro price on a no pro or pro grade lens. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 11 2011, 11:15 PM)
I also saw SriComp selling the 16GB at RM165 at Low Yat Plaza.
Very envious seeing SD cards selling much cheaper than CF. cry.gif

QUOTE(razuryza @ Oct 11 2011, 11:41 PM)
SD card so cheap... if CF.. rm165 also cant get 8GB... for the same model and speed
Usually CF is faster. I think fastest SD is only 30MB/s.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 12:11 AM)
but if ur lens is stolen, there are search sites that can trawl thru the exif data of phots online and see which pics contain ur lens serial number.
Really? Can you share which website is this? I never knew serial numbers of lenses and camera bodies are embedded in the EXIF?

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 12 2011, 01:17 AM)
50mm f/1.8G (FF prime lens) cheaper than 35mm f/1.8G DX.
The 50mm f/1.8G is sharp, better built? better bokeh? better IQ? and have distance scale.
Then when you put the 50mm on a DX body, some people will find that it becomes too "long". There goes the money spent on the 50mm...

QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Oct 12 2011, 10:20 AM)
Does it give as good quality as using it on the same system? Does that mean I can use canon 24-70 on a nikon since it is cheaper lol? But i guess it will look kinda weird tho... Haha sry for the noob question here...
Good quality as using it on the same system? No idea but people are using Nikon's 14-24mm f/2.8 on their FF Canon bodies and getting better results than from their own Canon wide angle lenses. Does that not answer your question partially? biggrin.gif

You can use Nikon lenses on Canon bodies. Not the other way around unfortunately since Canon have bigger mount.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 12 2011, 10:27 AM)
- if body is too expensive i think get 24-70 better XD
The 24-70mm f/2.8 can be a little long on the D70s. Better test it out first before the 24-70mm f/2.8 becomes a white elephant investment.

QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 12 2011, 10:54 AM)
the mount is not cheap. plus, you lost autofocus. i don't see the trouble. unless is canon don't have type of lens. or nikon don't have type of lens. and you really need that lens to save your life. if not, don't bother lah. get the nikkor 24-70 lah. (besides, nikkor 24-70 is nicer)
The trend that I usually see is using Nikon wide angles on Canon FF bodies where you can afford to have manual focus only using hyperfocal technique. Metering works fine. On something like the 24-70mm, AF becomes more crucial.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 12 2011, 11:27 AM)
yes is not cheapo lens but once you buy it can tahan long long long long time XD
and i said 24-70 because i "heard" it is good XD...when times come and my saving is allow to "bleed all at once" then i will drag my friend go test first...wan see the bokeh XD...since last time he show me his normal zoom lens..i think is tamrom or sigma i forget... 24-70 f/2.8 one... he said zoom lens also can produce nice bokeh too.
Errr... Bleed also must bleed smartly. Buying the 24-70mm and complain later that the 24mm end on DX is not wide enough is silly bleeding.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 11:44 AM)
I know there is convertor for Canon, but is there a convertor for Nikon to use Canon mount? Besides, you loose the AF capability and also adding up the cost of lens + convertor would be even more. Since you are already paying so much, why bother with a convertor? Not like Nikon doesn't have a 24-70.
Convertor to use Canon lenses on Nikon bodies does not exist. Besides, why do you want to use a lower grade lens when you can use a Nikon? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 12:01 PM)
Besides i think 70200 at 200mm f/2.8 does better bokeh than 50mm at f/1.8 ._.
Agreed. Wait till you see bokeh shot from from a 300mm f/4. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 12:07 PM)
Thanks for the links. Excellent. Learn something new. I tested the first link and it works great. But what about lens serial number? Does it get recorded in the EXIF?

QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 12 2011, 01:54 PM)
Thanks a lot
Yea. I realized that also. If I'm the only one using the camera, I'm fine with getting the tokina 11-16. But I'm sharing the camera with my sister. @_@ I can manual focus, but not sure my sister can use it or not. I heard it's not hard doing manual focus with UWA lens. Is that true? Or should I just invest on Sigma 10-20 / Nikkor 10-24 instead?
Not hard especially in daytime if you learn the hyperfocal technique.

If you have money, get the Nikon 10-24.

QUOTE(pziv2 @ Oct 12 2011, 01:58 PM)
Help! My D3100's mirror is jammed in the down position. I can take a photo but what i've got is a blank image since the mirror is not flipping up.

This is not mirror-lock up!

Any ideas about why is this happening?
Did you try to take out battery and put it back in?

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 01:59 PM)
SD card? it was selling RM109 at KLPF.
Wah, you rush around with the crowd, look round and round to find parking at MV and burn petrol plus parking, the is the RM 17 worth saving? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 07:11 PM)
Tried the 200-400 f/4 at 400mm f/4 before. Amazing! Now I wonder what kind of bokeh would a 400mm f/2.8 yield...  flex.gif
I would think it's out of this world...

Anyway, just for the sake of discussion, the 400mm f/2.8 VR at it's MFD at 2.9m gives a 0.77cm DoF at f/2.8. The 300mm f/4 at it's MFD of 1.45m gives a 0.44cm DoF at wide open f/4.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:16 PM)
i said "THAT TIME" laaaa, adui. sweat.gif
anyway if i wan use 24-70mm f/2.8 OR 24mm f/1.4 to create bokeh, which one is easier? i know zoom lens can create a nice bokeh but still need meet certain requirement right?  nod.gif
then the "certain requirement" is hard to do or not since you tested both lens liao i think. hmm.gif
Depends on how you would like your bokeh to be like... If blurry / dreamy type of background like the samples celciuz has posted, you need to be very close to your subject when using the 24mm f/1.4. At other normal distances at f/1.4 wide open, your background will be slightly blurred and the end result gives you a typical 3D-like image rendering on the subject provided your subject remains sharp. For the 24-70mm f/2.8, I grade it more as a general type of lens that can do most things excellently.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:16 PM)
i use 35mm on DX alraedy feel ngam ngam wide, so 24mm is not enough wide?  whistling.gif
If you feel the 24-70mm f/2.8 is fine, so be it. It's a great lens (one of the best zoom lens out there) and it's your money to begin with.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 07:46 PM)
i dont think its possible yet for the lens to transfer serial number to the exif data.
I guess as much. So it's only body serial number for the moment.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2011, 07:46 PM)
?
24mm and FX, and 17mm on DX due to crop factor which becomes 25.5mm have almost the same field of view.
so how can the 24mm be damn wide?
LOL I agree with you that 24mm and 25.5mm is very minute but the effect from 24mm to 25.5mm is a change of 84 degrees angle of view to 79.3 degrees or so. Focal length on the wide end is always greatly exaggerated than say at the tele end.

Check it out here...

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2011, 08:25 PM)
Some 50mm f/1.8G samples tongue.gif,

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Looks great. Wah... How come you got several new toys to test? I saw a 14-24mm f/2.8 in the bunch too. thumbup.gif

On a side note, me thinks Miya should have won. nod.gif

QUOTE(selinix @ Oct 12 2011, 09:17 PM)
Guys hope you guys can provide me some input on this.

I'm using a SB600 with D90.

Recently the flash has been acting weird. When I snap a picture the flash power is very low and the picture appear will be under expose and the SB600 ready light will be blinking 3 times. I've understand when the ready light blinks it means that I need to tweak the right settings for the exposure. But the thing here is the 3 times blinking occur so frequently and intermittently when I am taking picture of the same thing in the same environment. It just doesn't make sense when the flash work at one snap or two snap and the consequent snap it will keep blinking and then work again and it goes on.

Is that a sign that the flash is gone case?
Hard to tell. What batteries are you using? How old are they?


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 17 2011, 07:31 PM)
somewhere around f/1.8.
f/2.8 on crop sensor looks like this, @55mm.
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That's because of the subject distance. You can get a lot of things sharp with a 24mm f/1.4 shot wide open at f/1.4 if the subject distance is quite far.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 17 2011, 11:49 PM)
one dumb question, what is the best nikkor prime lens ? with Nano coat one. XD
200mm f/2.0 VR
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QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Oct 22 2011, 01:30 PM)
Save money for the next flagship DSLR better

I also owned P5000, P5100, P7000. When they launched with the first compact prosumer P5000, I thought they can replace my DSLR when I go out casual and shoot some photos, I ended up never use the P5000 as it is not practical. I use back my D2 series camera back then which gives me better image quality and control

So now I don't bother to get the V1/J1
Have you tried Oly XZ-1 ?

QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Oct 22 2011, 03:15 PM)
RM12k is just around $4k for US consumer. While average income earner in Malaysia is RM3.3k and 2.8k dollars for US. Malaysia will never catch up with international spending power. Not to mention that electronics are generally cheaper in US as well sad.gif

Edit: electronic cheaper in US compared to all other countries.
Spot on. We get less for the same amount of salary dollar for dollar. sad.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 22 2011, 03:43 PM)
cost of living high country.... haiz.... i heard HK there even nenek also got iphone 4....  rolleyes.gif
Don't look so far. Down south in SG also the same.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
80-400 wink.gif

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I'm more intrigued by what looks like a Linhoff ballhead / clamp.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 23 2011, 09:50 AM)
To be expected since Nikon Thailand is in trouble now =/ D7000 and below affected I guess. D300s Made in Thailand too?
Yes. Only FX is in Japan. But perhaps this has already changed after Tsunami?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 23 2011, 02:57 PM)
Still can catch her at MV today~

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Is she on heavy makeup? Anyway, I like them overall. You made the best of the lighting situation.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 24 2011, 10:03 AM)
i don't club i also don't smoke  sweat.gif (and i also dun have girlfriend to spend, and my last purchased game was last few months)
but still poor unsure.gif
Aira not your GF? shocking.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 10:24 AM)
Not really, just shoot like a time lapse. Set about 8s exposure. Then your DSLR will keep continue after stopping again and again. More of the luck factor tongue.gif
Must be lucky but you must also learn to anticipate when the event is going to happen and the lilehood it's going to take place.

Taken from F1 photo guru Darren Heath;

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I positioned myself - laying on the track - at the start/finish line, resting the camera while selecting a very long exposure. After many, many failed attempts, a vicious fork of lightning flashed across the sky above me.

"Events both on and off the track in Malaysia last weekend seemingly summed up in a millisecond of light.


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 10:36 AM)
Sure have, Zeiss makes for both Canon and Nikon mount. Price wise, no idea... got 35 f/1.4G for what consider the 35 f/2 Zeiss tongue.gif
Yup.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 24 2011, 10:49 AM)
Btw, that CZ lens is manual focus lens.
Should be. If they were AF, the would have ruled the world.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 24 2011, 11:57 AM)
now actually my saving is like 4k only... duno save to when baru can acheive minimum target 8k for 24mm (plan B for company trip)...
Which 24mm is this that cost 8k? sweat.gif

QUOTE(chiahau @ Oct 24 2011, 12:34 PM)
Yes, its a full manual focus lens..

Err, worth or not I dunno but optics wise, I think its sharp.

I know one dude using D3x which uses the MF Zeiss 35f2 rather than the Nikkor f1,4

So, you decide yourself.
You can have the best lens mounted on your FF body but it's just the same as a PnS if pics come out not focused correctly.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 01:41 PM)
I will still stick to the Nikkor 35 f/1.4G. Leica and Zeiss is good, but they are kinda old lens when compared to Nikon's line up which is refreshed more often.
I believe the Zeiss Distagon one even though MF is newer than Nikon's AF-S 35mm f/1.4.

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