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LittleMin
post Oct 15 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(skod @ Oct 15 2011, 12:56 AM)
gooding then. dont have to worry much about the sound quality then  brows.gif
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But the module costs RM300++ shocking.gif
and I duno how tat module looked like lagi rclxub.gif

Actually i saw my Pioneer player have a mute wiring behind,
can it connects to the steering mute button?
I dun even know hw the steering control wiring works actually biggrin.gif


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post Oct 15 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Oct 15 2011, 01:13 AM)
But the module costs RM300++ shocking.gif
and I duno how tat module looked like lagi rclxub.gif

Actually i saw my Pioneer player have a mute wiring behind,
can it connects to the steering mute button?
I dun even know hw the steering control wiring works actually biggrin.gif
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walao..nvm la..slow2..upgrade 1 by 1..no need so fast liao, even stock also better than myvi's 1 thumbup.gif
LittleMin
post Oct 15 2011, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(skod @ Oct 15 2011, 01:21 AM)
walao..nvm la..slow2..upgrade 1 by 1..no need so fast liao, even stock also better than myvi's 1 thumbup.gif
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yalo... the upgrading price is reali killing me,
n saga FLX gt so many things nid to enhance rclxub.gif

3xx, i would rather go for soundproofing 1st if i hv the money, LOL laugh.gif
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post Oct 15 2011, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Oct 15 2011, 01:13 AM)
But the module costs RM300++ shocking.gif
and I duno how tat module looked like lagi rclxub.gif

Actually i saw my Pioneer player have a mute wiring behind,
can it connects to the steering mute button?
I dun even know hw the steering control wiring works actually biggrin.gif
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hi littlemin, wanna ask the socket connected to steering's audio control switch like this one??

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LittleMin
post Oct 15 2011, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Oct 15 2011, 01:37 AM)
hi littlemin, wanna ask the socket connected to steering's audio control switch like this one??

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Yes, it's looked like tat one, exactly I think.. y bro? smile.gif


Added on October 15, 2011, 1:43 am
QUOTE(nazri86a @ Oct 15 2011, 01:37 AM)
hi littlemin, wanna ask the socket connected to steering's audio control switch like this one??

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Yes, it's looked like tat one, exactly I think.. y bro? smile.gif

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post Oct 15 2011, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Oct 15 2011, 01:43 AM)
Yes, it's looked like tat one, exactly I think.. y bro? smile.gif


Added on October 15, 2011, 1:43 am
Yes, it's looked like tat one, exactly I think.. y bro? smile.gif
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hmm.gif i also looking for this socket coz mine hu also got function steering audio control but cannot used due to my steering dont hv.. wanna find neo steering and the module then install it.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Oct 15 2011, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Oct 15 2011, 01:43 AM)
Yes, it's looked like tat one, exactly I think.. y bro? smile.gif
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this one cost rm3++ ?? cry.gif shocking.gif
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post Oct 15 2011, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Oct 15 2011, 01:47 AM)
hmm.gif i also looking for this socket coz mine hu also got function steering audio control but cannot used due to my steering dont hv.. wanna find neo steering and the module then install it..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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WOW, what is ur HU model??
The function on ur HU is exactly same like our steering's control function??


Added on October 15, 2011, 1:56 am
QUOTE(skod @ Oct 15 2011, 01:49 AM)
this one cost rm3++ ?? cry.gif  shocking.gif
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No, i think it's a module like our ABL..
my sound system tuner told me that the module can program the button to let it work as which function,
for example to program a button as MUTE button, or NEXT, FORWARD, and so on..

If i din get wrong what he mean la, hehehe..

This post has been edited by LittleMin: Oct 15 2011, 01:56 AM
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post Oct 15 2011, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 13 2011, 12:57 PM)
Sorry in my mind only proton will delivery the issue,
Cause my friend long time ago bought the wira also same thing the others belong to my friend still can't afford sad.gif
Don't worry i not saying proton not good just got some small issue and the CD player insert CD and nothing responds.
Just want to proton do more quality product.

Actually on proton this self is a good car after sales service they don't taking care of the car problem or resolve for you, the better why is find outside workshop to pay some money to solve the problem smile.gif maybe proton only know how to sells and the mind at only budget and low cost car for you to affortable.
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pls dun blame problem. physics says that at sudden change of temperature (hot to cold) sure will crack. try with your drinking glass u wil know.

abt cd player same here. went to clarion twice. first time fixed. 2nd time changed player, yet today when i put in usb nvr detect in player and also when put in cd, no response. only show loading... this sucks. 2 different player also same.. probably got some settings???

also guys cam someone guide me how to enable loud mode (LD) on our clarion player pls?
tq
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post Oct 15 2011, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Oct 15 2011, 12:47 AM)
Oh ya o.
If ur hu so geng, u also no need amplifier and woofer and so so nia
If u changed hu without other setting and claim the sound is good,, I just feel like LOL. Cuz I c u have nothing much to say about ur setup. sleep.gif!!!
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ICE of coz need the whole set to work efficiently. But compared with speakers, woofers, tweeters, amplifier and Head unit, changing the head unit will get the most significant gain in audio sound quality due to the enhancement chip and whatever chip which makes the song sounds nicer is built in the HU itself, not in the speakers or tweeters. How "enhanced" is the sound quality depends on your HU brand and your budget. Some brand are more for clarity and some are for bass.

Changing the speakers and tweeters and will further enhance the sound quality but not that much. Adding in woofer and amplifier brings everything to another level but these two needs a good HU in order to produce the best sound. If you put in amplifier in an ICE with a cheap HU that produce cheap sound, you're basically amplifying cheap sound. If your HU is producing quality sound, you are amplifying quality sound.
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post Oct 15 2011, 08:02 AM

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Good Morning, Everyone! notworthy.gif

How's everything? Esp yr rides? rolleyes.gif

Everything's quiet @my end. Juz did 1 tiny mod 2room/cabin lamp. Added 1 short strip of 3 LEDs to earlier installed 3! Now 2X brighter!! Pl see attached pic... thumbup.gif
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Compared to 1st mod here? : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=2457280
So...isn't it better than the ori single 1 filament bulb?

Fr posts, can see yu guys now going for HU upgrades. Sorry but me find FL sys ok lo. Also feel kenot really enjoy music much when driving...more to drown out road & other noises!
Had amp & changed HU & spks in ole ride but... tongue.gif

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post Oct 15 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Oct 15 2011, 01:54 AM)
WOW, what is ur HU model??
The function on ur HU is exactly same like our steering's control function??


Added on October 15, 2011, 1:56 am

No, i think it's a module like our ABL..
my sound system tuner told me that the module can program the button to let it work as which function,
for example to program a button as MUTE button, or NEXT, FORWARD, and so on..

If i din get wrong what he mean la, hehehe..
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this is my hu...

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i found out the wiring diagram on internet (lazy to scan manual book)

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post Oct 15 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Oct 15 2011, 10:15 AM)
this is my hu...

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i found out the wiring diagram on internet (lazy to scan manual book)
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So, is that required steering ctrl module :
a) oledi built-in inside ori HU? Or
b) a separate xternal module somewhere b4/in steering circuit?

If ans = (b) then no prob, rite? Juz only need proper connections.
If ans = (a) then need 2get sp module...

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 15 2011, 07:40 AM)
ICE of coz need the whole set to work efficiently. But compared with speakers, woofers, tweeters, amplifier and Head unit, changing the head unit will get the most significant gain in audio sound quality due to the enhancement chip and whatever chip which makes the song sounds nicer is built in the HU itself, not in the speakers or tweeters. How "enhanced" is the sound quality depends on your HU brand and your budget. Some brand are more for clarity and some are for bass.

Changing the speakers and tweeters and will further enhance the sound quality but not that much. Adding in woofer and amplifier brings everything to another level but these two needs a good HU in order to produce the best sound. If you put in amplifier in an ICE with a cheap HU that produce cheap sound, you're basically amplifying cheap sound. If your HU is producing quality sound, you are amplifying quality sound.
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My advise is just the opposite. In terms of priority to change:
1) Speakers
2) Add amps
3) Wiring
4) HU

Of course, if budget allows, change 1, 2, 3 at one go can save on labour costs. HU would be my last item to upgrade cos OEM model is acceptable although can be better, but I could be wrong. I haven't started on my ICE journey yet, now still looking for good speakers.
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post Oct 15 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Oct 15 2011, 11:27 AM)
So, is that required steering ctrl module :
a) oledi built-in inside ori HU? Or
b) a separate xternal module somewhere b4/in steering circuit?

If ans = (b) then no prob, rite? Juz only need proper connections.
If ans = (a) then need 2get sp module...
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not sure bro, later after i buy neo steering will try it out..
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post Oct 15 2011, 12:06 PM

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Wow, suddenly alot of argument about audio system...

My ICE priority is
1. Speaker.
2. HU

sometimes ppl tends to believe HU can enhance the sound,simply because it give user more room to change the sound, such as eq. But in fact if u switch both stock player to default flat setting, both will sound same, at least this apply to entry level aftermarket hu.

Speaker is a component to produce sound, it will determined the most for sound quality.
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post Oct 15 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 15 2011, 07:40 AM)
ICE of coz need the whole set to work efficiently. But compared with speakers, woofers, tweeters, amplifier and Head unit, changing the head unit will get the most significant gain in audio sound quality due to the enhancement chip and whatever chip which makes the song sounds nicer is built in the HU itself, not in the speakers or tweeters. How "enhanced" is the sound quality depends on your HU brand and your budget. Some brand are more for clarity and some are for bass.

Changing the speakers and tweeters and will further enhance the sound quality but not that much. Adding in woofer and amplifier brings everything to another level but these two needs a good HU in order to produce the best sound. If you put in amplifier in an ICE with a cheap HU that produce cheap sound, you're basically amplifying cheap sound. If your HU is producing quality sound, you are amplifying quality sound.
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Indeed good hu can't live without good speaker and amp and woofer and etc, and the other way round.
Can't tahan just changed hu only WAN lcly here .


Added on October 15, 2011, 3:01 pm
QUOTE(lowyatsuperman @ Oct 15 2011, 11:47 AM)
My advise is just the opposite. In terms of priority to change:
1) Speakers
2) Add amps
3) Wiring
4) HU

Of course, if budget allows, change 1, 2, 3 at one go can save on labour costs. HU would be my last item to upgrade cos OEM model is acceptable although can be better, but I could be wrong. I haven't started on my ICE journey yet, now still looking for good speakers.
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Go klang and find sharty . He definitely can help you out. He is a nice.and honest accessories sellerr

This post has been edited by stanleypua: Oct 15 2011, 03:08 PM
LittleMin
post Oct 15 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 15 2011, 07:40 AM)
ICE of coz need the whole set to work efficiently. But compared with speakers, woofers, tweeters, amplifier and Head unit, changing the head unit will get the most significant gain in audio sound quality due to the enhancement chip and whatever chip which makes the song sounds nicer is built in the HU itself, not in the speakers or tweeters. How "enhanced" is the sound quality depends on your HU brand and your budget. Some brand are more for clarity and some are for bass.

Changing the speakers and tweeters and will further enhance the sound quality but not that much. Adding in woofer and amplifier brings everything to another level but these two needs a good HU in order to produce the best sound. If you put in amplifier in an ICE with a cheap HU that produce cheap sound, you're basically amplifying cheap sound. If your HU is producing quality sound, you are amplifying quality sound.
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Totally agree wif u bro. smile.gif
HU is jz like engine of a car, play a main role in the whole system smile.gif


Added on October 15, 2011, 3:46 pm
QUOTE(lowyatsuperman @ Oct 15 2011, 11:47 AM)
My advise is just the opposite. In terms of priority to change:
1) Speakers
2) Add amps
3) Wiring
4) HU

Of course, if budget allows, change 1, 2, 3 at one go can save on labour costs. HU would be my last item to upgrade cos OEM model is acceptable although can be better, but I could be wrong. I haven't started on my ICE journey yet, now still looking for good speakers.
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Talk bout priority, i will agree wif ur statement bro smile.gif
I would call this as enhancement,
It's jz like modding car, normally ppl wil change wider rims n tyres 1st, den do low-down, add performance stuffs etc..
Once all enhancement done,
The last step onli will be change to bigger power engine laugh.gif
This is what we will do la if step by step.
Speaker and amps does can change the sound quality alot,
Comparing to stock speaker + good HU, versus component set & amplifier + stock HU,
Definitely the better wil be the latter.

However, frm ur steps there, I would choose to switch between 3 & 4,
Cz for me, switching better wiring is quite a waste if u stil using stock player,
The effect is minimum, I would rather change a decent HU 1st..

Jz my 2 cents here smile.gif


Added on October 15, 2011, 3:52 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 15 2011, 12:06 PM)
Wow, suddenly alot of argument about audio system...

My ICE priority is
1. Speaker.
2. HU

sometimes ppl tends to believe HU can enhance the sound,simply because it give user more room to change the sound, such as eq. But in fact if u switch both stock player to default flat setting, both will sound same, at least this apply to entry level aftermarket hu.

Speaker is a component to produce sound, it will determined the most for sound quality.
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Bro, nowadays HU nt only adjust EQ only,
some high end HU can adjust time-alignment, producing sound stage,
nt to mention high pass filter, low pass filter, subwoofer on/off setting and etc..

But I do agree wif u that speaker plays a main role,
without proper speaker, u would not get the right sound even u hv the most canggih HU in the world.
And actually I don't really like to do extreme setting on HU,
as I feel that the sound produced out will be quite "fake"..

Actually for me, it doesnt hv such statement that which one is more important,
It's all about the BUDGET biggrin.gif
Budget problem onli comes out what priority prob mah,
If you have the budget, who cares which one to change 1st?
Jz change all sekaligus lo, cheers thumbup.gif


Added on October 15, 2011, 4:00 pm
QUOTE(nazri86a @ Oct 15 2011, 11:50 AM)
not sure bro, later after i buy neo steering will try it out..
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Bro, if ur manual is same as what the pic u showed me,
I think u need a module to do setting for ur steering control..

As the pic u showed me there stated:
"To use the steering wheel remote control, you need an exclusive remote adapter (not supplied) matches ur car is required".

I think stil need a module la, cz nt every car's steering control provides the same function,
Perhaps u can jz plug n play without the module,
But mayb ur MUTE button will become FORWARD button,
or ur VOLUME button become FORWARD button, and so on.. rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by LittleMin: Oct 15 2011, 04:00 PM
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post Oct 15 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Oct 15 2011, 12:47 AM)
Oh ya o.
If ur hu so geng, u also no need amplifier and woofer and so so nia
If u changed hu without other setting and claim the sound is good,, I just feel like LOL. Cuz I c u have nothing much to say about ur setup. sleep.gif!!!
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Okay lo. You win. I shaddap about this audio quality part.

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