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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V15, Saga FLX - It's EVEN Better

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post Sep 10 2011, 03:19 PM

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I heard someone said before if use syn oil, then use it all the way. Don't change back to mineral. I don't know if there is research to support this theory, though.

Personally, I think semi-syn is good enough cos Proton not exactly performance cars.

QUOTE(YoNgZ @ Sep 10 2011, 03:14 PM)
guyz... if i'm using fully synthetic oil for my 1st 1k service , my 2nd service need service what then? LOL.. coz normally full syn is for 10k one right? i gonna bring my own oil to Proton SC to prevent warranty void.
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post Sep 10 2011, 04:12 PM

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Which is the most professional (ie least waiting time) SC around PJ, Kepong, Ipoh Rd areas?
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post Sep 10 2011, 06:47 PM

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Bro, one hand driving at 100 and other hand take pix? Highly dangerous manoeuvre.
Just tell us we will believe u lah. No need to prove it. tongue.gif

QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Sep 10 2011, 05:50 PM)
finally passed my 1000km, time for 1st service... wanna ask here, normally how much they will charge us for 1st service? (total of everything part changed)... hmm.gif

drove more than 100km/h not even touch 2.5k of the rpm...  rclxms.gif
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post Sep 10 2011, 08:50 PM

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For exora u try to close the rear hatch, tell me nice or not. tongue.gif

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post Sep 11 2011, 04:20 AM

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@eric
lowyatsuperman | Elegant Brown - FLX1.3E Auto
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post Sep 12 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Sep 11 2011, 03:37 PM)
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Just got the car today. suspension a bit hard. may be due to tyre pressure.

1 question, the car got ashtray (aka coins storage)????

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I kinda like the firm suspension. The ashtray cum coinbox is handy for me. I put it in the centre console cup holder for rear passengers (just behind the handbrakes) and it fits nicely.


QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 11 2011, 06:30 PM)
Intro of CVT Sagas is to offer 2ppl an improved city-drive car (acceleration is therefore NOT IMPORTANT) with improved F* but c/w all the other good points of Sagas (eg Lotus Ride/Handling) coupled with ABS, EBD which its rival is offering...all @very attractive pricing!! rolleyes.gif

A natural & expected industry competition in survival as to who can provide the Best & Affordable ride, namely Value for Money... thumbup.gif
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I think rival dun have control for ICE on car steering?

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post Sep 12 2011, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(dragonmage13 @ Sep 12 2011, 10:33 AM)
I have bought sag FL 1.3auto 4 month ago and been traveling from Klang to Kluang often driving at max 160kmh.

Wanna ask is there anything i can do to increase the top speed without turbo? i have only change the air intake currently and other is original still. At 160kmh can feel the car not stable, keep moving left and right (any way to improve this also)
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I think maybe u should upgrade to performance car. 1.3 not designed to run at 200. tongue.gif


QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Sep 12 2011, 11:55 AM)
Sent my car to Cheras SC for the CVT leaking. Leaking is gone. But they want to investigate the jerkiness of the car. Let them lah rolleyes.gif
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Wow, that is MAJOR QC issue. And yr car just few weeks old? Touch wood, I hope mine is okay. Driving to Spore in a few days time.


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post Sep 12 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(playerzaki2000 @ Sep 12 2011, 10:36 PM)
I'm really sorry if this questions is asked before, but when i use the search function, the answer for my question does not come out...

I will be getting my SAGA FLX soon... smile.gif and its my first car *clap clap*

So what should i check when i buy a used car?
I only found out that i should check the chasis number, engine number, exhaust for white smoke (good exhaust have a bit water drip as it is a new car),

So, what esle shoud i check?

Also, where to check the chasis number and engine number??

thanks for the replies... all help is really appriciated...

PS: really tired, been sleeping 3 days in hospital, this is my forth day, thats why a bit lazy to search thoroughly...

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If u r buying NEW FLX:
1. Sales person will go through with u the chassis no.
2. Check alarm system works and all doors can open after "unlock"
3. Oil leakage
4. Horns on all sides of steering wheel works (mine doesn't)
5. Press the plastic paddings on dashboard and both corners so that no creaking sound. Mine creak a bit on left pillar side
6. All accessories are given to u (Note: There is a jumper cable inside a bag given for FLX. Other models I think don't have)
7. etc... (other forum members feel free to add)

PS: If yr sales person is responsible person, he will also check all these for u. My sales lady even tune the radio stations for me.


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post Sep 13 2011, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Sep 13 2011, 12:14 AM)
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That's the reason why there's a 40K gap between these two cars.
You can try reaching those speeds but then you'd end up in the local newspaper the next day...in pieces.
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LOL, when I see Sagas and Maivees speeding on the highway at speeds of >160, I normally pull aside to let them pass. If they r in a hurry to be reincarnated, I shouldn't block them. whistling.gif

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post Sep 13 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(playerzaki2000 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:32 AM)
Thanks, its a typo... buying a new SAGA, well, not actually buying, i'm going to get it this afternoon rclxms.gif will be joing the club then... hehe...
thanks for the reply, and i have several questions, where do i check for

3. oil leakage

and for

5. press the plastic paddings on dashboard and both corners, which part is this, i dont quite actually know, is it just the edge of the dashboard?

and the jumper cable is listed in the price, so, ya, will be checking the price... thanks again...
hoho.. since u mentioned it, is the spare tyre for FLX the same size or smaller sized spare tyre?  unsure.gif
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Before u collect yr car, u can instruct yr sales person to park it at a cement place and leave it there for few hrs. So when u go to collect, just note the floor. For plastic paddings, mine have creaking noise at the left corner. Anyway, just press all over to make sure nothing is loose.


QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Sep 13 2011, 09:37 AM)
Morning to all blmers,

Just get some info from my colleague this morning at work, I was informed that my colleague friend's FLX has a major defect which categorized as the 1st case reported to Proton.

Well the story goes like this...
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Whoa, this is major QC issue. Luckily no serious accident happened. The belt is rated for 200,000km lifespan (if not mistaken I read somewhere). Sigh, I will be going down to Spore soon so now my heart a bit worried, too. Car mileage now only 100+km.


QUOTE(playerzaki2000 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:47 AM)
so i check it after getting the car, and if leeking, go back to dealer or do i go to the SC?
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The idea is to reject the car upon first inspection. If u find faults, still accept meh?

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 13 2011, 10:37 AM)
but won't it be dangerous if you put it on when one of the 4 tires is flat? hmm.gif
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The spare is meant for temporary use until u get the original fixed. My FLX comes with 4 Goodyear tyres and the spare is a cheapo "Continental" I think. Not really bothered.

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post Sep 13 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 13 2011, 12:19 PM)
How to reject?  sweat.gif
Our Msian way of delivery of cars is only AFTER the car is registered with JPJ ie the said car is oledi YOURS...in yr name!!

So NO way anyone can reject, correct?  rclxub.gif

Car company wld juz repair, etc for you depending on the faults detected. True?

Only one thing we can do after placing order for a new car...PRAY HARD that one wld get a reasonably well-assembled car with reasonably reliable parts...Agreed?  whistling.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Incorrect. I think most M'sians don't understand consumer rights. When u collect your car, the salesman will run through a checklist with u. The checklist says that u inspected all parts of the car and u sign yr name saying YES, u inspected everything okay. So if u go through the checklist, something is missing, u still sign kah? You can reject on the spot if the steering wheel is missing, for eg and demand they give u another car. Whether they register with JPJ etc is their pasal.


QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 13 2011, 12:40 PM)
it is registered
but u have to sign another doc when u get the car
if u not happy with the car...got defect...u can not sign...ask them to fix 1st
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Yes, correct.

QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Sep 13 2011, 12:45 PM)
you're right... we have the right to reject the car if there's defect, but however, after they fix it, we still getting the same car, only defect part being fixed or replaced...  hmm.gif
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Correct.

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post Sep 13 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 13 2011, 04:19 PM)
Yes, i can accept lemon law...but a brand new car with gearbox belt breaking is not quiet acceptable....other small issues are acceptable, all cars got defects........but brand new gearbox belt breaking and the driver isn't even driving very fast....shocking.gif...if me, i'll write to Proton and Papers liao, and demand a brand new car or my money back....i think they'll give you good 'compensation' to keep u quiet.... brows.gif
Actually I would do the same. Write to papers etc. Unless they upgrade my Saga to Inspila for free as compensation. tongue.gif

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post Sep 13 2011, 11:45 PM

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@scofield: these few days rain on and off. Must be careful driving.

BTW for new FLX users: there is something like a black "sponge" stuck just below the left n right door handles. I know it's for protecting against bumps. Do u remove it or leave it on?
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post Sep 14 2011, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 14 2011, 08:06 AM)
Try using iso-propyl alcohol (alcohol swaps) or WD40? Works in my case... wink.gif
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Be careful, guys. WD40 will eat away the paintwork. I think best to dab a bit of Ronsonol (lighter fluid) onto a cloth and rub away the glue. Try not to pour it onto the paintwork.


QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 14 2011, 08:45 AM)
Jam at MRR2 Taman Melawati till Keramat... spotted so many FLXs. SO many of them are Elegant Brown somemore. lol
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Today I drove all over PJ SS2, S16, 17 and Sri Hartamas, only saw 1 FLX. It's not so common yet.


QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 14 2011, 11:24 AM)
Battery failure very common for BLM/FL. Now even FLs?
My bro-in-law's BLM SE battery failed within 1st week of use in town!! Called SC & threatened to go public via media! SC mechs came & changed batt on the spot!! Phew! doh.gif

My own batt also came with loose +ve terminal!! Luckily I did my own checking after delivery AND tightened it...or else I wld hv been stranded very soon after! Radiator coolant & w/shield washer water also much below Max level (still ok tho - in no danger of car failure)
Felt all these due2 POOR Pre-Delivery inspection service carried out, if any!!! mad.gif

Feel we must hv basic knowledge of car parts & functions so can carry out our own chks when need to. True?
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I better go check mine, too.

QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Sep 14 2011, 01:05 PM)
Are FLX/FL headlights are usually hot when on?

Mine is and i'm afraid it will drain much of the battery chemical energy due to energy being lost in form of light and heat. Normal or not?
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I think maybe it's because the FLX headlamp's glass surface area is big, hence easier to feel the heat? Just my theory. Anyway, all bulbs give off heat. Except for LEDs with less heat.


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post Sep 15 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 15 2011, 05:44 AM)
So sad such simple helpful gadgets are left out these days...progress? rolleyes.gif
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Yes, I was thinking same thing. My mum's 19-yr old Iswara has that feature and my 2011 FLX no have. Also my Mitsubishi Colt last time (before Satria came out) also has "controllable" intermittent wiper speed. Meaning u can adjust the speed at the slowest setting. For FLX I find that the slowest speed and medium speed, either too slow or too fast, no in-between.

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 15 2011, 11:08 AM)
daMieNyuZry
u dun install RainX, u apply it.

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Be careful about RainX. Don't apply to front windscreen as it will spoil yr wiper blades. For side and rear its okay.

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post Sep 17 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 15 2011, 03:55 PM)
lowyatsuperman
bro, im using it for years, no issue for wipers.u dun apply it on the wiper, just the glass will do.those what u heard are just myth.
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Up to u, bro, it's your wiper. RainX creates "surface tension" so that the glass surface can repel water. That same surface tension also causes friction making it difficult for wiper blades to effectively glide across the glass. Over time, the wiper rubber will suffer uneven wear n tear, eventually scratching the glass. Not to mention the extra strain on the motors driving the wipers.

QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Sep 16 2011, 11:36 PM)
2008 b-line manual
my question is about those change ownership process fee cost 2k???
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U can check with JPJ. Change of ownership is a simple procedure.


QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 17 2011, 12:52 PM)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!

I gonna complain edi

Current state, kancil also can outrun me vmad.gif
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My FLX can do 200.... when I attach some rocket firecrackers to the boot. tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 18 2011, 11:06 AM)
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eventually i will like to discuss with this RainX thing. i read statement saying that if we apply excessive of its liquid on the glass in order to reduce the uneveness of the surface, will it reduce the wear and tear of the wiper? what i understand is that it is alcohol, and the liquid made the surface of the glass to be smooth without friction. so by right the wiper should glide through just like a surfing board, should have any surface friction. any ideas about this? also, to support my statement, my wiper now hits out the glass area easily due to momentum force. that wont happen if i dun apply the liquid.that's the main issue im facing now, "wiping out of the square".LOL.

p/s: am i that bad actually? LOL. i already slow down my work as moderator now but still receive comments, im legendary? i think i needa do charity liaw. biggrin.gif
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This is just my OPINION so feel free to agree/disagree with me. RainX is a western/European product and not really designed for our tropical weather. No matter how many layers u apply, after a heavy tropical rainstorm (very common in Msia), u r back to square one. Question is, how much do u wanna apply to your front windscreen? Half a bottle a week? For me, I prefer to keep things simple. If it doesn't work (for our weather), stop using it.

However, I would apply RainX to all the other glass surfaces ie rear/side windscreen and side mirrors. Anywhere except front windscreen. That's just my way. Feel free to do things YOUR way. smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 02:29 PM

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@SiuYi
I understand your rationale. I also heard about "glass or silicone coating-something-something" for protecting the car paintwork, costs around RM3-4K. tongue.gif

With money, anything is possible. Question is, when I buy a budget 45K car, do I want to add another 10-20K for all these extras? My answer is NO. Some ppl answer is YES.

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For those still asking about FLX FC, I just drove to Singapore and worked out costs to be around 20 sen per km using Shell VPower (RON97) at RM2.80/L.

Travelled 382km using approx 26.34L of petrol. Average speed 80-110kmph, 90% on highway. Car only 10 days old and this is first tank. I expect consumption to improve after engine run-in.


QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 18 2011, 01:00 PM)
... had u ever heard of windscreen waxing? my friend brought his ford ranger to clear the blur windscreen (due to age and previous owner did not wash the car properly). they apply some wax thing on the glasses and it is quite permanent. the shop even give 6 months warranty for it, but it cost rm4xx for the service.
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Okay, here's a mini review on the FLX after my drive to S'pore. I am still there, going back to KL on Monday.

Because the engine haven't run in yet, I have to keep looking at speedo. The car is very easy to reach 110kmph without much effort. My average speed is 90-110.

I love the firm suspension especially going over bumps. Some cars when going over "botak" roads (ie roads with the tar surface gone) will be very noisy. Surprisingly FLX's road noise is minimal, feels like a car with 1.8L engine. I think the Goodyear tyres are a good choice by Proton although I am wondering if Dunlop will be even quieter as I have experienced those tyres before. Road holding is also exceptionally good esp when taking corners.

Driving long distance with the car is very comfortable because of the smooth ride. It's hard to imagine this is only a 1.3L car. I am glad I did not wait for 1.6L as I need the car NOW and this 1.3 model satisfies my need especially that I prefer fuel economy vs speed. Those who want speed may wanna wait for 1.6 though.

The steering wheel cannot be used in the "high" position cos that would block your view of the speedometers etc. I put it at lowest position but arms also get a bit tired at that angle after awhile. Would be good if future models have foldable arm rests like what I had in my previous Estima MPV.

The seat is also quite high (I guess to accommodate shorter people) so I had to lower it down otherwise my head will be almost touching the top.

Some ppl envy the Maivee's speedo design but I think the FLX is sufficient. I don't care much about the meters looking nice like Christmas tree as "ride comfort" is my top priority. Maivee driven over long distance can be uncomfortable and noisier which is common for hatchbacks. The hatch rattles quite a bit and get worse over the years.

About the sound system... (to be contd)....

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post Sep 20 2011, 02:25 PM

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My FLX just passed the 1,000km mark, no more virgin. sad.gif



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