QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:23 PM)
i keep 90% in bond, 10% in equity. Waiting for the right timing.Public Mutual v3, Public/PB series funds
Public Mutual v3, Public/PB series funds
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Sep 28 2011, 10:44 PM
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Sep 28 2011, 11:05 PM
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Sep 28 2011, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Sep 28 2011, 09:14 PM) Seems like the price nowadays is getting cheaper. I have extra cash to top up my pittikal but its still close. My other option is to go for other fund since i don't want to miss this opportunity. My agent recommend PISSF. What u guys think eh? what about PIEF? u can include PIDF, PISEF too. |
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Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM
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Sep 29 2011, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM) i have been keeping 90% in bond since 1 year ago, i also missed a lot of profit opportunity when index peak at almost 1500point.... Heheh - bro, i got a buddy believe "sky falling" since 2007 and until now "sky still falling" for him. Perma-bear fellow - sure to get it right 50% of the time but he missed out big on the 1st Qtr 2009 to 1st Qtr 2011 run. Of course, he also "missed out big" on the 2008 fall too BTW, i read in some books, if one were to "miss" the big falls AND the big jumps in equal numbers of time, one would actually be better off leh. So much for "always staying invested" theory. Anyone simulated this with KLCI historical index before? This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 29 2011, 08:18 AM |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 29 2011, 08:15 AM) Heheh - bro, i got a buddy believe "sky falling" since 2007 and until now "sky still falling" for him. Perma-bear fellow - sure to get it right 50% of the time but he missed out big on the 1st Qtr 2009 to 1st Qtr 2011 run. Of course, he also "missed out big" on the 2008 fall too So how do you address your cash position?BTW, i read in some books, if one were to "miss" the big falls AND the big jumps in equal numbers of time, one would actually be better off leh. So much for "always staying invested" theory. Anyone simulated this with KLCI historical index before? Bearish- how much cash? Bullish - how much cash? Neutral- how much cash? |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 29 2011, 08:20 AM) So how do you address your cash position? Er.. distribution/bearish, or me, some cash move from stocks to shorts for KLCI index futures but equity funds move only to bond funds coz I don't want to pay the service charges for equity funds again when getting into equity again.Bearish- how much cash? Bullish - how much cash? Neutral- how much cash? Vice-versa during recovery & accumulation trend. This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 29 2011, 08:37 AM |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:36 AM
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KLCI may down again today. http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business/19...nomic-fear.html
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Sep 29 2011, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 29 2011, 08:35 AM) Er.. distribution/bearish, or me, some cash move from stocks to shorts for KLCI index futures but equity funds move only to bond funds coz I don't want to pay the service charges for equity funds again when getting into equity again. How do ya short the KLCI?Vice-versa during recovery & accumulation trend. |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:48 AM
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Sep 29 2011, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 29 2011, 08:40 AM) 1st off - sorry yar mod - serong topic a bit Bursa's KLCI Futures Contract: http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/derivati...ives/fkli2.html Some better/clearer idea: http://www.apexequity.com.my/cms/main.php?...&op=page&id=337 Note: not for the faint of heart and those without risk management or sizing management skills. Can lose or make $ per half-point of index $25 I'm doing it with Hong Leong eFutures since i'm on Hong Leong's eBroking for stocks - can transfer $ around easily + brokerage $18 one-way. and i'm doing it coz nothing to do with cash in my stock account hehe. Expecting 3 to 5 months of nothing to do with it mar. This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 29 2011, 09:10 AM |
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Sep 29 2011, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 29 2011, 08:15 AM) Heheh - bro, i got a buddy believe "sky falling" since 2007 and until now "sky still falling" for him. Perma-bear fellow - sure to get it right 50% of the time but he missed out big on the 1st Qtr 2009 to 1st Qtr 2011 run. Of course, he also "missed out big" on the 2008 fall too : one correction: one year ago the allocation was 80% bond and 20% equity,I hv done nothing on the allocation since oct 2010, but due to the recent correction in equity, it has become 90:10. Not sure it is good or bad? At least I preserve my capital.as at End of year 2009 my portfolio allocation was 50;50, I kept switching to bond like every quarter to lock in the profit till it reaches 80:20 last year. Conservative move but at least didn't loose big time. IMO, Rule #1 on how to make profit is to know how not to loose....hehe. |
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Sep 29 2011, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2011, 09:38 AM) one correction: one year ago the allocation was 80% bond and 20% equity,I hv done nothing on the allocation since oct 2010, but due to the recent correction in equity, it has become 90:10. Not sure it is good or bad? At least I preserve my capital. as at End of year 2009 my portfolio allocation was 50;50, I kept switching to bond like every quarter to lock in the profit till it reaches 80:20 last year. Conservative move but at least didn't loose big time. IMO, Rule #1 on how to make profit is to know how not to loose....hehe. Heck, i dont think we want to argue with a high and happy market willing to pay us more than normal for our holdings yar? and vice-versa - when market is so suicidal & depressed, throwing away good stuff and lelong prices This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 29 2011, 09:58 AM |
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Sep 29 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 29 2011, 08:36 AM) contrary, we still on green today!but really hopeful that will happen tomorrow as I didn't put anything when klci at 1311 QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 29 2011, 09:07 AM) 1st off - sorry yar mod - serong topic a bit Bursa's KLCI Futures Contract: http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/derivati...ives/fkli2.html Some better/clearer idea: http://www.apexequity.com.my/cms/main.php?...&op=page&id=337 Note: not for the faint of heart and those without risk management or sizing management skills. Can lose or make $ per half-point of index $25 I'm doing it with Hong Leong eFutures since i'm on Hong Leong's eBroking for stocks - can transfer $ around easily + brokerage $18 one-way. and i'm doing it coz nothing to do with cash in my stock account hehe. Expecting 3 to 5 months of nothing to do with it mar. Isn't more riskier than playing stock? |
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Sep 29 2011, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 29 2011, 06:46 PM) contrary, we still on green today! Heheh - bro, i was from Mutual Funds --> Stocks --> Gold --> Futures, not straight into futures larbut really hopeful that will happen tomorrow as I didn't put anything when klci at 1311 Isn't more riskier than playing stock? Basics first and i'm putting in some skin to learn properly - with real stress of greed/fear to fend off VS staying the course (of entry/exit methodologies) |
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Yes, yes...
I do expect that mr wong also playing stock and derivatives, if not where got all the complex method of investment Still need a lot to learn from you and others here! |
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Sep 29 2011, 09:43 PM
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buying signal? Good sentiment these few days
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