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holybo
post Aug 24 2011, 10:29 PM

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Just want to ask a question, the fund price we always look at the internet is yesterday price, if we buy today, which price do we buy, today (which havent announce) or yesterday?
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post Aug 25 2011, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 25 2011, 12:18 AM)
You buy today, means buying yesterday closing price.
You buy tomorrow, means buying today closing price
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Thanks for the info~
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post Aug 29 2011, 09:02 AM

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Anyone have opinions regarding PUBLIC SINGAPORE EQUITY FUND? I'm looking to buy this fund.
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post Sep 1 2011, 06:43 PM

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actually do we really need to take a look on distribution? cause the distribution is given from our share also?
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post Sep 1 2011, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 1 2011, 07:03 PM)
Capital gain is more preferable for investors who look for high return.

But certain investors preferable fixed and stable return.
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i heard from my friend that if the fund distribute 5sens, then the fund price will drop 5sens as well. it seem confusing whether do we really earn on the distribution or not
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post Sep 1 2011, 08:30 PM

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I had done some calculation regarding the distribution. correct me if im wrong.

Assume the investment amount is RM1000 (after minus the SC).

if the unit price is 0.6453, then the units i get is 1000/0.6453=1549.667

after a year, the unit price rise to 0.7439 then the value i have is RM1152.797. This is capital gain.

Then they announce 9 sens distribution, then the unit price drop to 0.7439-0.09=0.6539. the distribution i get is 1549.667units *0.09 = RM139.47.

Assume the closing price for the next day is 0.6539 (no movement) also.

the units i get from distribution is RM139.47/0.6539 = 213.2895 units, the total units i have is 213.2895 + 1549.667 = 1762.956 units

Then the total units i have is 1762.956 * 0.6539 = RM1152.797 also.

What i gain is more units but the value also same.

The question is why they want to do distribution? since if the next day the unit price no movement, our value before and after the distribution still same
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post Sep 1 2011, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Sep 1 2011, 09:28 PM)
Now, that is wrong.

There is some rise before the dividends because speculators bid up the price, and some drop after because they decided to "goreng" something else, but is NOT the same as Fund distributions where it is guaranteed to make no difference to the total value of your funds.

There are some minor effects due to tax, and due to losing your MGQP if you withdraw units rather than distribution, but frankly if you don't have enough money to qualify for MGQP, don't waste time thinking that you do.
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if we read the report, we should read the return instead of the distribution or distribution yield?
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post Sep 1 2011, 10:36 PM

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i heard small cap reopen. wanna buy some smallcap =)
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 1 2011, 11:20 PM)
Volatile moment, still will intro u to oversea equities fund? hmm.gif
Good agent smile.gif
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thats mean we should keep our money in MM or bond first to wait for solid good news?
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post Sep 2 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 2 2011, 05:01 PM)
When market really crash, bond also will get affected, just not so badly affected only.
Depends what kind of bond also.. If government bond, then ok.. If blue chip bond, still ok (But, please don't think blue chip won't get busted in KLSE, because blue chips can be blue cheats anytime, no joke)

Bond get defaulted, then bond holder can start to suck fingers and toes already.

Bond price fluctuation is lesser compared to equities. So is more to a steady linear growth.
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true. some bonds like PB fixed income can provide you with steady income better than FD i think although in such market.
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post Sep 3 2011, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 3 2011, 10:54 PM)
Bro, most "flower sellers" wont tell U there are flowers that "smell bad" one tongue.gif

In all seriousness, maybe the best way for us to test for investment agent VS sales agent are inter-linked questions like:
1. If i buy and it goes down how?
The answer is usually buy more as it goes down, signing up for monthly standing instructions, thus doing DCA.

2. Then if it continues going down leh and stays down for 5 years or more leh, like 1997/1998 till 2006 on hit back 1400-ish how?
This Q usually separates the lousy sales vs super sales agents  brows.gif

3. If i keep buying and buying using DCA ar, then when can take profit ar?
I think most of the sales agents would have painted themselves into a corner by now whereas proper investment agents would have talked about entry & exit plans by question 2 liao

just my 2cents idea - your mileage may vary  laugh.gif
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yea.. i just went to public mutual, an agency manager keep asking me to buy only. i was asking her lots of questions regarding the quarterly report etc, she just said it was past & it dont mean anything, as long as now i want to earn money. she kept telling me the price drop alot ady, now enter sure earn, plus she got 17years experience bla bla bla
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post Sep 4 2011, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 4 2011, 12:35 AM)
which funds she recommend for u?

did she tell any thing abt risk management?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 4 2011, 12:37 AM)
Holy Cow!!. This kind of agency manager.. Fail!!
Just ask to buy buy buy.. Ask her whether she knows anything about the current situation of the economy. Guess she does not know a shit about it, and only got 17 years of asking people to buy buy buy...

If want people to buy, at least talk something rather more reasonable, like why you need to buy, rather than buy buy buy because price drop.
Sigh..
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i think she just know how to compare the price before and after. actually i went there to get some hardcopy data, she dont even has those. i kept telling her that the market is so unstable now & the probability of the market wil drop further is quite high. then she kept telling we cant time to market, so buy now as the price is so cheap. she recommended PUBLIC CHINA TITANS FUND, PUBLIC ITTIKAL FUND,PUBLIC AUSTRALIA EQUITY FUND if not mistaken.

This post has been edited by holybo: Sep 4 2011, 10:18 PM
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post Sep 7 2011, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Sep 7 2011, 02:46 PM)
Last 3 months I bought Public Mutual using EPF for below fund.

P.Ittikal
Public Saving Fund

Now, I can withdraw another 8k from EPF. I decided to invest 2 funds, but having hard time to choose between the below funds. Opinion..or any other fund worth to choose this time?

PUBLIC DIVIDEND SELECT FUND
PUBLIC ISLAMIC DIVIDEND FUND
PUBLIC REGULAR SAVINGS FUND
PUBLIC SMALLCAP FUND
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Just to my sense, do not buy today cause today the market is up, so u will buy with more expensive price. I think friday is another good day to think of it =)
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post Sep 12 2011, 03:48 PM

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Good news to those who holding cash and want to do VCA in these few days~
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post Sep 14 2011, 04:46 PM

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any idea why the funds price update so slow ya?
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post Sep 14 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(lytros @ Sep 14 2011, 05:00 PM)
Funds with shares traded in Hong Kong & Korea share market are not updated as the share market was closed yesterday.
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normally they will update yesterday price this afternoon
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 19 2011, 09:17 PM)
hey what do u mean no rush no rush as the bearish signal triggered? then wait for bull?
i thought its better to to open unit trust during bear?
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i think he mean still a fresh bear, still got time to let the market drop. no need to kanchiong first
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 23 2011, 02:58 PM)
Sorry for the this question.. what is DY%?  tongue.gif
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Should be dividend yield =)
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post Sep 29 2011, 09:43 PM

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buying signal? Good sentiment these few days
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post Oct 7 2011, 08:43 PM

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I think monday maybe will increase little bit due to 2012 budget. I hope it get lower, haven't reach my target to pump in more money lol

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