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mars1069
post Sep 27 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 27 2011, 10:25 AM)
If got charge also, it'll be FPX charge. In the range of 50 cents to RM 2.
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u mean per transaction? example I buy RM5K, then I need to pay RM5,002?
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Sep 27 2011, 10:41 AM)
u mean per transaction? example I buy RM5K, then I need to pay RM5,002?
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I believe so. It's just my assumption excluding the service charge of 5.5%/0.25% for the fund.
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 27 2011, 10:44 AM)
I believe so. It's just my assumption excluding the service charge of 5.5%/0.25% for the fund.
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the service charges is included in the RM5K (example), means the fund value will be 5.5% lesser than RM5K. In this case, I need to call PM office to check the charge if use other banks...thanks bro notworthy.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:44 AM

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Fellow forumers & mutual fund investors, just to share an idea:
Local focused fund - Value investing based on PM's "Market Wrap", specifically the "Market's Gross DY%" as a barometer.

Been using "Market's Gross DY%" based on a few stocks (LPI, PB, NESTLE, DIGI, UTDPLT) all this while but hard to share/proof to others until i received PM's "Market Wrap" and thought of using its historical issues to prove a point (yes yes, i'm kinda slow that way tongue.gif).

Attached is the "proof" and concept for your kind consideration:
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Bottomline:
When gross DY% is high, means market prices are depressed BUT stocks are still shooting out dividends (ie. biz making $).
ie. market price doesnt agree with biz
Good value buy right?

A big thanks to David83 for the 2008 & 2009 PM's Market Wrap. Kamsiah kamsiah notworthy.gif

Note: Your mileage may vary - this is just a possible entry rule, no exit rules here yar tongue.gif

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post Sep 27 2011, 12:12 PM

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So we need to take P/E into account as well right? If P/E is low, DY% is high, good time to buy. If P/E is average, DY% is low, time to sell?
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 27 2011, 12:12 PM)
So we need to take P/E into account as well right? If P/E is low, DY% is high, good time to buy. If P/E is average, DY% is low, time to sell?
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P/E? Yup U can - i'm just presenting a simple yet effective way to buy value based on market DY% for mutual funds. Based on the P/E also can or a combo.
Me - simply put, DY% vs FD or EPF, how many % more, thus.. heheh

Methinks P/E has many different calculation variations though - forward earnings, backward/historical, mixture, thus i've noticed P/Es for certain stocks can differ by more than 10%, more than variations i've seen for DY%. Yup - DY% also has different calculation variations heheh.
I may be wrong though tongue.gif
er.. this paragraph based on individual stocks that i've eyeballed yar, not the example posted.

IMHO, for stocks of course U need more details lar coz your $ is "focused" vs in mutual funds' 1 fund = at least 10 stocks

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post Sep 27 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Sep 27 2011, 10:41 AM)
u mean per transaction? example I buy RM5K, then I need to pay RM5,002?
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yes, every transaction, transaction fee will appliy. it will prompt u abt the fee. the fee may diff for diff banks.
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Sep 27 2011, 11:21 AM)
the service charges is included in the RM5K (example), means the fund value will be 5.5% lesser than RM5K. In this case, I need to call PM office to check the charge if use other banks...thanks bro  notworthy.gif
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yes, the SC for units will be deducted from rm5k.
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post Sep 27 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
yes, the SC for units will be deducted from rm5k.
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ok bro, thanks for your advice. I just called PM, they said the charges is from RM2-5 per transaction depends on bank and limit is RM5K per transaction except PB smile.gif if 1 2 buy more than RM5K, can buy after 1st transaction and so on. thanks.


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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
yes, the SC for units will be deducted from rm5k.
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ok bro, thanks for your advice. I just called PM, they said the charges is from RM2-5 per transaction depends on bank and limit is RM5K per transaction except PB smile.gif if 1 2 buy more than RM5K, can buy after 1st transaction and so on. thanks.

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post Sep 27 2011, 08:36 PM

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Just wonder either kparam already send his clief EPF appliaction or still keep it? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Sep 27 2011, 01:34 PM)
ok bro, thanks for your advice. I just called PM, they said the charges is from RM2-5 per transaction depends on bank and limit is RM5K per transaction except PB smile.gif if 1 2 buy more than RM5K, can buy after 1st transaction and so on. thanks.


Added on September 27, 2011, 1:34 pm
ok bro, thanks for your advice. I just called PM, they said the charges is from RM2-5 per transaction depends on bank and limit is RM5K per transaction except PB smile.gif if 1 2 buy more than RM5K, can buy after 1st transaction and so on. thanks.
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Wow, so expensive.... Yesterday, I did using CIMB, just pump RM 500 only sad.gif . Never Prompt me the charges....
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:58 PM

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Hi all, I am confused now.

So the price of each unit trust fund will be updated daily or weekly? I receive only weekly fund price report, I visit publicmutual website, the fund price is updated only once a week.

Does it mean each fund will be having the same price from Monday to Friday and the price to be renewed in the end of Friday?
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post Sep 28 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 27 2011, 08:36 PM)
Just wonder either kparam already send his clief EPF appliaction or still keep it?  hmm.gif
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stilll keep. very hard to time the market. 30% down yesterday and 30% up today rclxub.gif
unit price still below 1 month price.
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post Sep 28 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Sep 27 2011, 11:58 PM)
Hi all, I am confused now.

So the price of each unit trust fund will be updated daily or weekly? I receive only weekly fund price report, I visit publicmutual website, the fund price is updated only once a week.

Does it mean each fund will be having the same price from Monday to Friday and the price to be renewed in the end of Friday?
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fund price at publicmutual website will update daily. for local funds will update before mitnight. foreign fund only will update the next day. if the fund has local + foreign...will update next day too around afternoon.
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 28 2011, 12:15 AM)
fund price at publicmutual website will update daily. for local funds will update before mitnight. foreign fund only will update the next day. if the fund has local + foreign...will update next day too around afternoon.
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:13 AM

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Anyone using CIMB to add investment in PUBLIC MUTUAL?

HOW MUCH is FPX charges ?

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post Sep 28 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 28 2011, 10:13 AM)
Anyone using CIMB to add investment in PUBLIC MUTUAL?

HOW MUCH is FPX charges ?
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FPX charges is similar to MEPS right ?
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post Sep 28 2011, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 28 2011, 04:00 PM)
FPX charges is similar to MEPS right ?
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Not exactly same. Different platform.
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post Sep 28 2011, 07:23 PM

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Wat percentage of bond portfolio is recommended at this volatile times?
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post Sep 28 2011, 09:14 PM

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Seems like the price nowadays is getting cheaper. I have extra cash to top up my pittikal but its still close. My other option is to go for other fund since i don't want to miss this opportunity. My agent recommend PISSF. What u guys think eh? what about PIEF?

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