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°° LYN Honda Insight Owners Thread V4 °°,, The Power Of Hybrid. Owners Welcome ! !

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lunchtime	Jan 16 2012, 09:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2417
Casual Junior Member 487 posts Joined: Aug 2011	[quote=cbinn,Jan 16 2012, 09:32 AM] it fit perfectly, but you just have to use another double sided tape... there should not be any bending the tip of the side step also.. [/quote] Ya, ended up peeling the sidestep off, added another 2 layers of doublesided tape to make it thicker, and now it fitted firmly. Earlier, the original tape could not hold the middle part of the long sidestep from keep springing up and rattles. I guess this info will be useful for those who want to diy the installation. for those installed by shop, I am sure the shop will warranty their workmanship. [/quote] how did you install the LED? where did you tap the wires?
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iTrump	Jan 16 2012, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2418
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Feb 2011	QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 13 2012, 09:20 PM) This is what I share @ autoworld forum.. My Insight is hitting 10K service now... After all the hoohaa about Hybrid... let me share my experience of driving it... I will compare to my previous car City IDSI 2006 and compare the performance with my friend BMW 320i (Unfair rite hahaha I'm evil!!!) _____________ Fuel Consumption... how much you can save seriously in real life driving not the JC test result etc etc... (Kepong Carefour -> Sg. Buloh -> Subang Airport and back) My journey to work milage My average Honda City IDSI will give me around 350 to 400KM mileage Insight will give me around 650KM mileage. Highway (Kepong-> Sg. Buloh Tol -> Taiping Perak) The best City IDSI milage meter is 17.5km/l (YES I MANAGE TO HIT THIS MUAHAHA) The best Insight is 25.8km/l (It can do better but so far this is the highway record) so far I have seen people hit up to 28km/l _____________ Quality of the Car (Exterior and Interior) Exterior City Exterior is pretty good but the looks is a debate since 2004 haha Fit and finish is OK paint job is smooth. The bumper clip is horrible it always give way even minor hit it look pretty bad... The light is Standard H4 clear reflector helogen (you install HID police will be very happy) it is not HID ready. Insight Has better fit and finish the join and gap is much refine and you will notice it is made in japan Paint job is not as good as Malaysia CKD, it is very rough you can see the orange skin effect under sunlight... it is mainly due to thick anti rust... it is good for rust proof but not so nice to look at haha The clip is stronger more support and stronger clips Headlight is Projector with manual electronic levelling yes it is HID ready The looks is good... with Mugen kits even better Interior City Interior is mainly Beige in colour vs Insight is Black The seat overall is better than city cause there is more back support and side (semi bucket seat) support The rear Head clearance is very bad on insight if you are tall you will have problem... The split rear glass you need to get used to it... some hate it... The boot space City is better but loading stuff Insight is better. I still like City ULTRA Seat... Insight is very quiet way more quiet than City the NVH is superb!!! ___________________ Performance and Technology Performance - Top Speed City IDSI top speed : 170km/h (On S mode paddle to the metal) Insight top speed : 200 km/h (Econ - Off / D mode / Still can press the accelerator paddle) it can still go but 200 is scary!!! We test this during Seremban-KL highway run with my friend BMW 320i even he is impressed by the 1.3l car haha!! (P/s: I cannot overtake 320i but manage to keep up with his car which is awesome) Performance - Acceleration (Hill Start) City IDSI - The CVT will have a little lag while Engine build up the torque to boost you will feel city boost at around 2000 rpm range... you will notice this when you stop at the hill Insight - The electric motor will kick in very fast and boost you so in hill start it is easier and you will notice the CVT work less in this scenario. Performance - Acceleration 0-100++ km/h City IDSI is not very strong at 0-100 as it is IDSI you want strong you have to op for VTEC... Insight - Electric Motor kick in very fast and strong you will notice tire skids and VSA kick in to hold it to the road and sling shot... the electric motor will very fast drive the engine to 5K RPM and will let the engine take over from there overall you will feel a little G-force pulling (very mild) overall it is fast!! Performance - Breaking City IDSI basically all the City will suffer soft breaking due to ABS thats because this ABS does not come with BA (Break Assist) Insight have 2 Break Regenerative and Normal Brake... it have ABS / BA / Traction Control / VSA / Panic Stop The break is very light and the break is very strong... some say the Drumbrake at back of the car is bad but the breaking power is there and it all thats matter... you can have super 4 disc and if you cant stop you are doom anyway.. haha!! Because of regenerative brake the brake pads wear is very minimum... Performance - Handling Both car has very good handling but Insight is on the harder ride side... City ride is softer... Conclusion. Is it worth is : 1. YES if you are looking for a replacement for a everyday family car. Compare to TDCi / TDi turbo diesel... - Different kind of car.. a Diesel car can achieve what Hybrid can do but @ malaysia Diesel quality is still very low... my experience with 2 Diesel pickup truck you need to overhaul the fuel injector filter as it become dirty easily... another thing is price... if you can afford a Polo why not... but put into consideration of maintenance. maintaining a conti car is not cheap... Compare to Prius - Prius is a better hybrid if you dont mind spending additional RM40K. some say Prius standard offering not available on insight...my answer with 40K you can have all their fittings!!! haha Battery How very scary!!! - Try google.. the Insight battery is basically D cell NimH joint together so I believe there is cheap aftermarket replacement in the future in U.S. people are retrofitting aftermarkets D cell into the 1st generation Insight at a super cheap price... I have no worries unless D cell went extinct... (Insight batteries is D cell nimh made by Sanyo) - On Prius batteries I believe it is proprieties and you will not have after markets parts... and I believe it is more expensive to replace although it last longer by additional 3 years... think about it... (Prius cell is a custom size made by Panasonic) Should I wait... YES but price and Government policy may change it may go lower or may go higher the RISK is yours... Nice post. My previous drive honda city vtec 06 suffers on the high way, engine is loud when reaching 150. For honda insight.. no sweat.
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watonk	Jan 16 2012, 10:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2419
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: Jan 2005	QUOTE(kapultek @ Jan 14 2012, 11:09 PM) Done my 40k km at temerloh sc, for rm900++ i think quite normal for major services Bro, since you're the highest clocker here, any new discovery with your car? How's the engine, IMA, suspension, overall performance holds up?
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watonk	Jan 16 2012, 10:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2420
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: Jan 2005	QUOTE(babysmile @ Jan 7 2012, 11:40 AM) Hope everyone can understand this tutorial. I try to explain as simple as possible. I divide into 2 parts. Part 1 is installation of Boot Lamp Cover. Part 2 is getting the correct wiring for the boot. Things you need to get ready to have OEM Honda Insight boot light 1) boot lamp cover Part number 34265-SFE-003. Another cheaper version part number 34261-S5A-003 2) wiring 5 meter 3) cable ties 4) led bulb ( T10 version ) 5) Pen knife 6) Scissor & Black tape 7) Wire coupler (optional) Difficulty : 3 out of 5 Time spent : 5-6 hours. Part One : Installing Boot Lamp Cover Step 1 : Open the boot and locate the plastic cover on left side. Use a flat screwdriver cover with cloth to pry out the plastic cover on the top left corner. There is hole for the purpose to remove the plastic cover. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Step 2 : Check the cover and turn opposite way and see there is a shape which you can create the hole. I use a dremel to drill the hole then sand paper to smooth the edge. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Step 3 : Get the boot lamp cover to match with the plastic cover to ensure it fit properly. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Part Two : Finding The wiring Step 1 : Get the negative source -> boot lamp source wire. Open the boot and slowly peel out the black protective rubber on right side. Locate Orange Wire. Try use wire coupler or expose the orange wire with a new wire to connect our boot lamp. You need around 4 meter. Please do not cut the wire. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Step 2 : Once wire is connected, tidy the wire to the boot lamp location on left side. Step 3 : You need to dismantle the boot cover, spare tyre, the accessories on the bottom section. Slowly peel the plastic cover one by one . » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Step 4 : Locate the positive wire ( Pink color ). Just like step 1, get another wire ( 1 meter ) to link with the positive wire. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Step 5 : plug the wire and connect with the boot lamp. To make it simple, put the pink color on top and orange color on the bottom. Later you shall know which is Positive and which is negative. Step 6 : Take the boot lamp plastic and connect it with LED light Step 7 : Test with the LED and the wire connection. Step 8 : If everything is alrite, assemble back the boot compartment and the boot light is completed. Thanks bro!!
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iTrump	Jan 16 2012, 11:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2421
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Feb 2011	QUOTE(watonk @ Jan 16 2012, 10:54 AM) Thanks bro!! Can you share with us where to get boot lamp cover Part number 34265-SFE-003?
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DaBestOne	Jan 16 2012, 11:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2422
-LYN- 6 ★STARS★ Trader Senior Member 1,329 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.	QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 16 2012, 09:23 AM) huh... reset stearing wheel??? like how?? I think he meant reset alignment and balancing?
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watonk	Jan 16 2012, 11:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2423
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: Jan 2005	QUOTE(iTrump @ Jan 16 2012, 11:01 AM) Can you share with us where to get boot lamp cover Part number 34265-SFE-003? Sorry bro maybe i didnt include the actual lamp in the picture. Its just a bare rows of 3x4 leds (those used to replace room light) sticks to the original location. Still looking for a cover.
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Sh@rty 5	Jan 16 2012, 11:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2424
Getting Started Junior Member 104 posts Joined: Nov 2007	[quote=cbinn,Jan 15 2012, 04:07 PM] Since you mentioned it, does the sidestep you sold also require additional doublesided tape? The shape of the sidestep did not fit perfectly the car body, especially the longer front door sidestep. The middle section keep springing up, probably because existing doublesided tape does not have sufficient surface area to hold it down. I will remove it later and try adding more tapes. Or I probably have to bend the piece slightly to make it into correct shape so it does not spring up. Any other people who DIY have the same experience? [/quote] [quote=just_ice,Jan 16 2012, 07:39 AM] Added on January 15, 2012, 11:12 pm meaning it doesn't fit properly? [/quote] it fit perfectly, but you just have to use another double sided tape... there should not be any bending the tip of the side step also.. [/quote] yup we tried sticking before, no prob we did not change the double side tape but we did apply 3m chemical on the car before sticking but again, if u guys have the better tape, why not change it on another note, on our way down to setapak, so those around that area can call us 012 710 7917 if wanna cod today. or sunway and pj area This post has been edited by Sh@rty 5: Jan 16 2012, 11:53 AM
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xtrabite	Jan 16 2012, 12:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2425
Getting Started Junior Member 181 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Pengu world	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(cbinn @ Jan 15 2012, 10:44 PM) Finally, I manage to pinpoint the source of the wind noise by accident. I was spending my Sunday installing sidestep steel plate onto my car. The front plate comes with LED, so I decided to link them up to the room light circuit. I opened the plastic trim along the sidestep to allow me to pull out the door trim rubber lining and thread the wiring of the LED on steel plate into the car. While I was removing the passenger side sidestep plastic trim, a black plastic plug, about the size of 20 cents coin dropped out. I was guessing that could have been dislodged due to improper factory installation as no one had dismantled that part of my car before (Japanese also human, they may make mistake too). Putting my hand in between the plastic trims and the car body, I could not find any hole that this plug could fit, so finally and reluctantly, i took out most of the plastic trim on the passenger side. I found the hole at the sidewall somewhere beside the glovebox, somewhere below the passenger door wiring. I could be pretty sure that's the hole as there are no other nearby, and the size is perfect fit for the plug i found. So i just plug the hole up. After fixing the wiring for the sidestep LED putting back all the plastic trims very carefully not to break anything or left anything loose that might rattle, time to go for testdrive. Of course, the LED is easier to test, just open door and the LED comes on. I was more eager to test whether the plug I found did solve the whistling noise that had been bothering me each time I reach highway speed. After driving up and down NKVE for about 45 minutes, I finally convinced the whistling noise has been eliminated. Close case, finally. Ended up I spend one whole day on my car due to the extra time caused by discovery of this 20 cent size plastic plug, but I am very happy and statisfied, apart from smiling myself looking at the blue glow of my newly installed side step, I got a bonus today for be sure not hearing any more whistling sound each time I hit highway speed, and prove to myself I am not paranoid about the noise as what the service center might have thought. I just think service center should have took customer complain more seriously, rather than just come out with some lame excuse or even worst to lie to customer in order to coax customer to accept minor defects so they can safe on troubleshooting work. could you show us the picture where that hole is located.. kind of blur here...
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cbinn	Jan 16 2012, 01:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2426
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2007	[quote=lunchtime,Jan 16 2012, 09:44 AM] Ya, ended up peeling the sidestep off, added another 2 layers of doublesided tape to make it thicker, and now it fitted firmly. Earlier, the original tape could not hold the middle part of the long sidestep from keep springing up and rattles. I guess this info will be useful for those who want to diy the installation. for those installed by shop, I am sure the shop will warranty their workmanship. [/quote] how did you install the LED? where did you tap the wires? [/quote] babysmile had posted a very detail guide on where to connect the wire of the sidestep LED to in order for them to come on together with the room light. Just read through this forum (it is on page 100+ of the V4 thread if I had not mistaken) You will need to pry off the inner plastic trip of the sidestep before you can pull out the weatherproof rubber trim. I run the thin wire under the rubber trim, prior to that, I add insulation using few layers of duct tapes as I felt the metal car body where the rubber trim is mounted is quite sharp and could damage the LED wires when the trim is being reinstalled. As for how to remove the plastic panel to route the wire from the LED all the way to the connector mentioned by babysmile, it is quite straightforward, just wrap a piece of cloth on your flat tip screw driver before any attempt to dig in to avoid scratch, and requires a lot of patience and care to avoid breaking the plastic clips or having the clips and hooks not in proper place during reinstallation that may cause rattling. Added on January 16, 2012, 1:20 pm[quote=xtrabite,Jan 16 2012, 12:15 PM] » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « could you show us the picture where that hole is located.. kind of blur here... [/quote] Sit on the passenger side of the car, to the left of your left feet (under the glovebox), there is a plastic trim that runs all the way down to the floor carpet. If you remove this trim, you will see the metal part of the car body (the other side is where the passenger door hinges are attached to car body). The hole is there, suppose to be covered by the plastic round plug the size of 20 cents coin (mine was dislodged and the plug drop all the way down to the sidestep plastic trim). Higher up above this hole, you will see a bunch of wire running into the wall, this bunch of wire is going towards the passenger door for the power windows, door lock and power mirror. I wish I got a photo yesterday, by time I done and wanna take photo, sky already dark and you know how bad phone camera works in low light. Added on January 16, 2012, 1:21 pm[quote=Sh@rty 5,Jan 16 2012, 11:53 AM] it fit perfectly, but you just have to use another double sided tape... there should not be any bending the tip of the side step also.. [/quote] yup we tried sticking before, no prob we did not change the double side tape but we did apply 3m chemical on the car before sticking but again, if u guys have the better tape, why not change it on another note, on our way down to setapak, so those around that area can call us 012 710 7917 if wanna cod today. or sunway and pj area [/quote] Hahaha, bro, DIY-er are not supplied with '3M chemical'. This post has been edited by cbinn: Jan 16 2012, 01:21 PM
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mrsafwan	Jan 16 2012, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2427
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Sep 2011	QUOTE(chris_tco @ Jan 16 2012, 12:45 AM) hey guys, i just install my new black color Enkei 17" rim, with 205/45/R17. Do i need to reset my steering wheel setting? 1. can see pictar of your rim? 2. any chance of noticing the FC after rim installation? good, bad, not much difference? 3. doesnt this will void the warranty?
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calvin_ng	Jan 16 2012, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2428
TeamCity \| HCC \| Insighters Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: KEPONG	rims wont void warranty
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mrsafwan	Jan 16 2012, 02:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2429
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Sep 2011	ya ke calvin. my SA told me it'll void warranty. he he .. other things she mentioned was : rims + spring (the suspension)
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calvin_ng	Jan 16 2012, 03:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2430
TeamCity \| HCC \| Insighters Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: KEPONG	hahaha your SA very bad... my SA say no problem muahahaha
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mrsafwan	Jan 16 2012, 03:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2431
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Sep 2011	oh, i just sms'ed my SA. she told me, warranty will void on the exhaustible and disc brake only. im not too sure about the 'exhaustible' though, perhaps she meant the wear n tear component? Added on January 16, 2012, 3:23 pmit'll affect the warranty on that said part only, the engine and the IMA system are still covered by their own warranties. can kindly check with your SA calvin, if this is true. nnt byk version pulak.. This post has been edited by mrsafwan: Jan 16 2012, 03:23 PM
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calvin_ng	Jan 16 2012, 03:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2432
TeamCity \| HCC \| Insighters Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: KEPONG	my old city change Rim also and still my absorber is warranty and my bushing too well I'm not going to your Service center hahahaha
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mrsafwan	Jan 16 2012, 03:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2433
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Sep 2011	haha ya ke..ciss..
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br3akerz	Jan 16 2012, 05:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2434
New Member Junior Member 24 posts Joined: Jul 2006	for those still considering... http://thecarguys.my/2012/01/honda-insight...pec-comparison/
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Happyman	Jan 16 2012, 05:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2435
Getting Started Junior Member 163 posts Joined: Oct 2005	[quote=Sh@rty 5,Jan 16 2012, 11:53 AM] it fit perfectly, but you just have to use another double sided tape... there should not be any bending the tip of the side step also.. [/quote] yup we tried sticking before, no prob we did not change the double side tape but we did apply 3m chemical on the car before sticking but again, if u guys have the better tape, why not change it on another note, on our way down to setapak, so those around that area can call us 012 710 7917 if wanna cod today. or sunway and pj area [/quote] Hey you have not yet answer my question. Tell everybody what are you going to do to the failed-rm20-double-sided-tape please!!
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chris_tco	Jan 16 2012, 07:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2436
New Member Junior Member 47 posts Joined: Oct 2011	after changing the rims and tyre to 205/45/R17, my steering is getting heavier. Any thing i can do to make the steering lighter?
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