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 °° LYN Honda Insight Owners Thread V4 °°,, The Power Of Hybrid. Owners Welcome ! !

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Nievk8701
post Jan 16 2012, 07:52 PM

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wondering whether the door visor really helps in reducing the wind noise??

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post Jan 16 2012, 07:54 PM

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[quote=Happyman,Jan 16 2012, 05:53 PM]

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Hey you have not yet answer my question.

Tell everybody what are you going to do to the failed-rm20-double-sided-tape please!!
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sweat.gif we will restick it with 3m tape for u..
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post Jan 16 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.DC @ Jan 14 2012, 01:21 AM)
Mine 1 already top up to change 3m double sided tape, so far no problem at all  thumbup.gif
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Ahhh, perfect timing! Everyone's double sided tape on the door visor failed at about the same time... rclxms.gif
Which 3M double sided tape did you all buy & where did you buy it from? icon_question.gif
I bought this one brand double sided tape that claims to be specifically for automotive product from ACE Hardware shop, and it fall off in 2 days... not to mention, itz more expensive than 3M tape I saw in the same shop cry.gif

Please share the type of 3M double sided tape you guys bought & did you guys do any special surface preparation (e.g. wipe off with certain chemical) to make the adhesion stronger?
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post Jan 16 2012, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Jan 16 2012, 07:48 PM)
after changing the rims and tyre to 205/45/R17, my steering is getting heavier. Any thing i can do to make the steering lighter?
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Bigger rims and lower prifile tyre naturally give more road surface contact and thus higher turning resistance. Because Insight is using an electric assisted power streering instead of the hydralic version driven by the internal combustion engine, it was not probably designed to drive the extra resistance of a different profile tyres and rims.

There is nothing much you can do as I do not think you can adjust or increase the assist power of the electric power steering. You can opt to slightly over-inflate the tyre and see how much that could help, but it will cause harder uncomfortable ride and probably more wear to the center thread of the tyre.

I wonder the extra resistance will cause more stress and wear to the standard electric assist power steering on the insight, as it was not originally designed for the extra turning resistance.


Added on January 16, 2012, 11:24 pm
QUOTE(Nievk8701 @ Jan 16 2012, 07:52 PM)
wondering whether the door visor really helps in reducing the wind noise??
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Did it help to reduce? After I fixed mine with Mugen visor, I felt wind noise is slight stronger. Anyway, I have no measurable standard for this, just feeling.

I had my visors removed eventually because I find it hard to clean my glass windows with the visor on, and I travelled frequently on trunk roads that are dusty (and muddy when rainfall). Besides, my double-sided tape (which was supposed to be original 3M that cost more than RM20 a roll) looks like about to fail too. I guess for a good stick, you will need an application of primer solution on the surface before sticking the doublesided tape.

For me, visor give the advantge of able to leave a small gap open on the windows when parked under hot sun so that the car does not turn into presurized hot oven when I get back in. I do not see any additional advantage actually as we probably always drive with aircond on in our hot humid climate. The problem with visor is that it is making windows cleaning task harder. Besides, it actually make viewable area of the windows (especially on the back windows) slightly smaller (the visor is actually very dark and cannot see through it). Finally, if your double sided tape application is problematic, your visor can turn into harmful projectile to vehicle behind or opposite you when travelling at high speed.

This post has been edited by cbinn: Jan 16 2012, 11:27 PM
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post Jan 17 2012, 01:17 AM

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[quote=Sh@rty 5,Jan 16 2012, 07:54 PM]
Hey you have not yet answer my question.

Tell everybody what are you going to do to the failed-rm20-double-sided-tape please!!
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sweat.gif we will restick it with 3m tape for u..
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So are you coming to the place we COD and do it?

Nievk8701
post Jan 17 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(cbinn @ Jan 16 2012, 11:15 PM)
Bigger rims and lower prifile tyre naturally give more road surface contact and thus higher turning resistance. Because Insight is using an electric assisted power streering instead of the hydralic version driven by the internal combustion engine, it was not probably designed to drive the extra resistance of a different profile tyres and rims.

There is nothing much you can do as I do not think you can adjust or increase the assist power of the electric power steering. You can opt to slightly over-inflate the tyre and see how much that could help, but it will cause harder uncomfortable ride and probably more wear to the center thread of the tyre.

I wonder the extra resistance will cause more stress and wear to the standard electric assist power steering on the insight, as it was not originally designed for the extra turning resistance.


Added on January 16, 2012, 11:24 pm

Did it help to reduce? After I fixed mine with Mugen visor, I felt wind noise is slight stronger. Anyway, I have no measurable standard for this, just feeling.

I had my visors removed eventually because I find it hard to clean my glass windows with the visor on, and I travelled frequently on trunk roads that are dusty (and muddy when rainfall). Besides, my double-sided tape (which was supposed to be original 3M that cost more than RM20 a roll) looks like about to fail too. I guess for a good stick, you will need an application of primer solution on the surface before sticking the doublesided tape.

For me, visor give the advantge of able to leave a small gap open on the windows when parked under hot sun so that the car does not turn into presurized hot oven when I get back in. I do not see any additional advantage actually as we probably always drive with aircond on in our hot humid climate. The problem with visor is that it is making windows cleaning task harder. Besides, it actually make viewable area of the windows (especially on the back windows) slightly smaller (the visor is actually very dark and cannot see through it). Finally, if your double sided tape application is problematic, your visor can turn into harmful projectile to vehicle behind or opposite you when travelling at high speed.
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ok, Thks for your advice!!
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post Jan 17 2012, 09:44 AM

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Visor also useful for smokers to flick their ash out of the window...

Hybrid and smokers are 2 opposite entities, hence i dont need visors tongue.gif

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post Jan 17 2012, 01:40 PM

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I think apply some primer will help.. cause mine still stick... =P
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post Jan 17 2012, 04:58 PM

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no visor for me... I dont wind down window.. unless pass toll laa
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post Jan 17 2012, 08:16 PM

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just done my 10k service lol.

i just put the door visot to complete the mugen look tongue.gif
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post Jan 17 2012, 08:52 PM

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Hmm already did turn my door visor into harmful projectile object ler..

with door visor we still can clean our window what.. just need to wind down the window little bit ler. just wipe with wet cloth. but dont hose with water there lah...smile.gif

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post Jan 17 2012, 09:59 PM

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Shorty Pm me the below message:

Changing a double sided tape is recommended so that the product would stick better

But there is no guarantee on such product

If you think that we are at fault for it, no worries, drop by with your visor cleaned. and we will stick the 3m tape for u

thxs

The original sticky tape on the visor is not so good quality so shorty advised us to pay extra RM20 for a so called better quality tape which only stick few months. Obviously I wont travel to klang just for the tape unless you come down to cheras, but if you dont, there is nothing we can do.

Next time please be more specific when you want to sell something and charge extra.

I will use genuine 3M tape this time.
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:25 AM

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Anyone interested to do tis?
http://www.sierraglow.com/
maybe can get cheaper price if we go in group??
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post Jan 18 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Happyman @ Jan 17 2012, 09:59 PM)
Shorty Pm me the below message:

Changing a double sided tape is recommended so that the product would stick better

But there is no guarantee on such product

If you think that we are at fault for it, no worries, drop by with your visor cleaned. and we will stick the 3m tape for u

thxs

The original sticky tape on the visor is not so good quality so shorty advised us to pay extra RM20 for a so called better quality tape which only stick few months.  Obviously I wont travel to klang just for the tape unless you come down to cheras, but if you dont, there is nothing we can do. 

Next time please be more specific when you want to sell something and charge extra.

I will use genuine 3M tape this time.
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Hi Happyman, do note that, the visors are supposed to be installed with the brackets/hooks inside the rubber lining the window.. that's the proper way of installations.

Thing is, with all the oem/clone mugens, you may not be provided with the hooks in the 1st place.
Stickers will fail, sooner or later no matter which u use. Due to rain/heat. And when it fails and fly out, it's dangerous for other drivers/motorcycle users too..

This instruction set shows how the official mugen wing is supposed to be installed.
http://hybrid-eco.net/1h_insight/mugen_aero_wing.html

A friend of mine have his rear mugen done just sticked with dbl sided tape, and it's gaping already.. less than a month.

Official Honda visor installation guide, u can see the bracket is there ...
http://www.bernardiparts.com/Images/Instal...rs_AII44900.pdf


This post has been edited by eltaria: Jan 18 2012, 11:23 AM
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:56 PM

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Im interested in sierra glow as well!!
Lets purchase in Group!!

Nievk8701
post Jan 18 2012, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(johnpvc81 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:56 PM)
Im interested in sierra glow as well!!
Lets purchase in Group!!
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alrite bro! i'll contact the shop n ask for more details like how much discount n minimum need how many car! will update after CNY.
Anymore??
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post Jan 18 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Nievk8701 @ Jan 18 2012, 05:44 PM)
alrite bro! i'll contact the shop n ask for more details like how much discount n minimum need how many car! will update after CNY.
Anymore??
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count me in!

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interested as well. actually wanna do it long long time ago but no time to go there lol.
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:11 PM

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Interested as well. but my car got tiny miny scratch oredi. still can? can someone give how much the budget to do Sierraglow?
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ahkam77 @ Jan 18 2012, 09:11 PM)
Interested as well. but my car got tiny miny scratch oredi. still can? can someone give how much the budget to do Sierraglow?
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Called SierraGlow last week and the price is rm600 for Insight.
Hearsay from other forum, SG will fix tiny scratches for you.



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