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 Working in Singapore v8, Tan vs Tan vs Tan vs Tan

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post Aug 25 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2011, 10:54 AM)
Yah I know, I just shorten some of the procedure such as getting a sponsor to assist me for the long term visa application, but that shouldn't be any problem since I got relatives and friends who are either citizen or PR staying in Singapore and they agree to be my sponsor. Now the only thing that stop me is find a job in Sg loh, but I am kind of lazy of walking out from my comfortzone now, anyway will try to apply Sg jobs again this week from jobsdb, jobstreet and efinancier.
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One more thing i realise is that its quite pointless to apply through jobstreet, jobsdb or those website coz 99% of them are ads placed by recruitment agencies. These agencies will the you all the crap about how "you don't have SG experience" and try to lower yr pay expectation. Also these "head hunters" mostly lie and/or hard sell their clients to you which might not be what yr looking for or might not be a fit.

I say since yr from IB, use yr contacts to get a job in SG. I'm sure some of yr collegue or bosses know someone who lknows someone else who works in SG. Use that instead. At least you get a fair deal.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2011, 11:02 AM)
lol...My friend told me old dog cannot learn new tricks liao sweat.gif He totally has no basic in any chinese language including dialect, even he in KL also hardly see him he speaks Cantonese but he is still doing fine in KL, of course not in an environment that only speak chinese loh. Or put it this way, I just treat my friend as other race like Malay or Indian who don't speak chinese at all, can't blame him due to the way and environment he was bringing up.
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Old dogs not learning new tricks are excuses.

It's better off for him to remain in KL as he can't cut it in a more dynamic environment.

Which is why Malaysia remains a 3rd world backwater as it's filled with people like them.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 25 2011, 11:15 AM)
Old dogs not learning new tricks are excuses. 

It's better off for him to remain in KL as he can't cut it in a more dynamic environment. 

Which is why Malaysia remains a 3rd world backwater as it's filled with people like them.
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No. Absolutely wrong. That only applies to his friend. Malaysians are the most adaptable people on the face of the earth. Even I, who don't speak a word of mandarin in KL is now working in a very chinese speaking environment. You adapt and learn the language, fullstop. Now i speak conversational mandarin. There are so many more like me.....
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 25 2011, 11:15 AM)
Old dogs not learning new tricks are excuses. 

It's better off for him to remain in KL as he can't cut it in a more dynamic environment. 

Which is why Malaysia remains a 3rd world backwater as it's filled with people like them.
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He also have problem communicate with those indian and malays and even chinese who dont speak English. Probably he can speak Bahasa lar with them. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:22 AM)
No. Absolutely wrong. That only applies to his friend. Malaysians are the most adaptable people on the face of the earth. Even I, who don't speak a word of mandarin in KL  is now working in a very chinese speaking environment. You adapt and learn the language, fullstop. Now i speak conversational mandarin. There are so many more like me.....
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Adaptable Malaysians mostly work and reside OUTSIDE of Malaysia.

Hence, the majority of working Malaysians in Malaysia remain in their stagnant state.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2011, 10:54 AM)
Yah I know, I just shorten some of the procedure such as getting a sponsor to assist me for the long term visa application, but that shouldn't be any problem since I got relatives and friends who are either citizen or PR staying in Singapore and they agree to be my sponsor.

EPEC no need sponsor. Just need to go online and apply for your 1-year LTVP (long term visit pass), choose the EPEC option, upload your documents, wait 2-3 weeks. Then you will get your IPA for the LTVP with which you make online appointment to go get your 1-year validity LTVP card.

[edit] any of you guys know if the 6-months validity on passport applies for us WP holders?

This post has been edited by deodorant: Aug 25 2011, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 25 2011, 11:02 AM)
Not really true, they have lots of money sucker babes...... tongue.gif
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Actually, to be fair to them, I wouldn't use that degratory remarks on them. I spoke to a few of them (single, gorgeous looking singaporean women) and while yes, they do try very hard to "hook" rich guys but in their perspective, its only fair. I mean every girl irregardless of nationality would want a husband/bf who have the means to give them a good life, right?

Put yrself in their shoes. i mean if yr a stunningly gorgeous girl, why in the world would you settle for some mediorcre guy when you can get a prince. Love and all that only last for so long. After you are married for 10-15 years, all the "love" will start to fade and reality will set in i.e. is there enough money for kids, tuition, electricity, food, rent, etc. If you married a rich guy at least you don't worry about all these mundane things. And SG is not a cheap country to live in. SO in a way i don't blame them. I can only strive to make myself and my family a better living.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:46 AM

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It's all about the money. Let's sing along with Jessie J's Price Tag. wink.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:36 AM)
Actually, to be fair to them, I wouldn't use that degratory remarks on them. I spoke to a few of them (single, gorgeous looking singaporean women) and while yes, they do try very hard to "hook" rich guys but in their perspective, its only fair. I mean every girl irregardless of nationality would want a husband/bf who have the means to give them a good life, right?

Put yrself in their shoes. i mean if yr a stunningly gorgeous girl, why in the world would you settle for some mediorcre guy when you can get a prince. Love and all that only last for so long. After you are married for 10-15 years, all the "love" will start to fade and reality will set in i.e. is there enough money for kids, tuition, electricity, food, rent, etc. If you married a rich guy at least you don't worry about all these mundane things. And SG is not a cheap country to live in. SO in a way i don't blame them. I can only strive to make myself and my family a better living.
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Nothing wrong with wanting to marry a rich man if the lady is young and attractive.

It only becomes ridiculous when plain jane women insist on having a rich and handsome husband when they are way off the mark by their own standards.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 25 2011, 11:33 AM)
any of you guys know if the 6-months validity on passport applies for us WP holders?
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I have a housemate who managed to go to johor and back with less than 6 months validity on his passport.
PS: Do on your own risk.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:36 AM)
Actually, to be fair to them, I wouldn't use that degratory remarks on them. I spoke to a few of them (single, gorgeous looking singaporean women) and while yes, they do try very hard to "hook" rich guys but in their perspective, its only fair. I mean every girl irregardless of nationality would want a husband/bf who have the means to give them a good life, right?

Put yrself in their shoes. i mean if yr a stunningly gorgeous girl, why in the world would you settle for some mediorcre guy when you can get a prince. Love and all that only last for so long. After you are married for 10-15 years, all the "love" will start to fade and reality will set in i.e. is there enough money for kids, tuition, electricity, food, rent, etc. If you married a rich guy at least you don't worry about all these mundane things. And SG is not a cheap country to live in. SO in a way i don't blame them. I can only strive to make myself and my family a better living.
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IT is nothing wrong for wanting someone who is better, rich, handsome and single. It is not degratory statement as they are mostly materialistics women out there if compare to plain kampung gals. So, in Singapore, it is more such women out there (percentage wise). biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Aug 25 2011, 10:47 AM)
You can't with the EPEC alone.
You need to apply for a long term visa which you need to pay.
Even the visa has single or multiple entries.
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Mind to explain more on single or multiple entries? From my understanding, single entry means I can only enter Sg 1 time with the visa, and next time the visa can no longer being used even it is not expired, whereby multiple entries mean I could enter Sg as many times as I could within the permitted period.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 25 2011, 11:46 AM)
Nothing wrong with wanting to marry a rich man if the lady is young and attractive.

It only becomes ridiculous when plain jane women insist on having a rich and handsome husband when they are way off the mark by their own standards.
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LOL!!! Unfortunaltely these days its all about speculation even to find a mate. When one sees a girl (pretty or not dosen't matter) get a prince, she will also higher her expectation. Kinda like property. When property A is so sellable at say $200 per sq ft, property B which just launch will price itself at $220 and look see if demand is good or not. If it's still good then property C will price at $250 per sqft. and so on and so forth.

Same theory rclxms.gif
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post Aug 25 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:07 AM)
One more thing i realise is that its quite pointless to apply through jobstreet, jobsdb or those website coz 99% of them are ads placed by recruitment agencies. These agencies will the you all the crap about how "you don't have SG experience" and try to lower yr pay expectation. Also these "head hunters" mostly lie and/or hard sell their clients to you which might not be what yr looking for or might not be a fit.

I say since yr from IB, use yr contacts to get a job in SG. I'm sure some of yr collegue or bosses know someone who lknows someone else who works in SG. Use that instead. At least you get a fair deal.
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I have friends working in Sg but most of them are in non-financial field, so I don't really have much close connections who work in banking/financial sector. Of course, I got friend's friends who are working in IB or banks, but since I am not close to them so I would try my effort 1st before I become desparate.
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post Aug 25 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:54 AM)
LOL!!! Unfortunaltely these days its all about speculation even to find a mate. When one sees a girl (pretty or not dosen't matter) get a prince, she will also higher her expectation. Kinda like property. When property A is so sellable at say $200 per sq ft, property B which just launch will price itself at $220 and look see if demand is good or not. If it's still good then property C will price at $250 per sqft. and so on and so forth.

Same theory rclxms.gif
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With this theory kicks in, that is why the mariage rate drops so much. Many rather remain single than to sell cheap. tongue.gif However, they argue that they want freedom and no commitment. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 25 2011, 11:02 AM)
Not really true, they have lots of money sucker babes...... tongue.gif
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I don't want to generalise or stereotype girls from Sg. So I don't really buy in story of friends' friends about sucker babes, unless it comes from whom being sucked brows.gif .

This post has been edited by kinwing: Aug 25 2011, 12:48 PM
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post Aug 25 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 25 2011, 11:33 AM)
EPEC no need sponsor. Just need to go online and apply for your 1-year LTVP (long term visit pass), choose the EPEC option, upload your documents, wait 2-3 weeks. Then you will get your IPA for the LTVP with which you make online appointment to go get your 1-year validity LTVP card.

[edit] any of you guys know if the 6-months validity on passport applies for us WP holders?
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Thanks for clarification. I think I did not read carefully for how to apply for LTVP. About the online appointment for LTVP, will it be an interview when I go to collect the LTVP card?
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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Aug 25 2011, 11:47 AM)
I have a housemate who managed to go to johor and back with less than 6 months validity on his passport.
PS: Do on your own risk.

Hmmmmmm. Over at the travel&living section there are people saying they could enter with < 6 months as visitor but with some additional steps - apparently a senior immigration officer had to come over and approve his entry. But that is visitor lah ... for WP holders ... dunno whether it applies. My passport validity period is like 8 months now, guess I gotta plan a trip to KL or JB to renew.

QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2011, 11:53 AM)
Mind to explain more on single or multiple entries? From my understanding, single entry means I can only enter Sg 1 time with the visa, and next time the visa can no longer being used even it is not expired, whereby multiple entries mean I could enter Sg as many times as I could within the permitted period.

Malaysians no need Visa.

QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2011, 12:14 PM)
Thanks for clarification. I think I did not read carefully for how to apply for LTVP. About the online appointment for LTVP, will it be an interview when I go to collect the LTVP card?

No. Once you have the IPA that means is approved liao. You just go and do fingerprinting and collect card.
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2011, 11:54 AM)
LOL!!! Unfortunaltely these days its all about speculation even to find a mate. When one sees a girl (pretty or not dosen't matter) get a prince, she will also higher her expectation. Kinda like property. When property A is so sellable at say $200 per sq ft, property B which just launch will price itself at $220 and look see if demand is good or not. If it's still good then property C will price at $250 per sqft. and so on and so forth.

Same theory rclxms.gif
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Unfortunately for properties B,C etc, their owners did not bother to check the condition and location of their own properties. Property A is an Orchard Road penthouse and B, C are 30-year old HDB flats in Woodlands. Even real-life property owners of said places would not be so dumb as to sell their assets at orchard road prices. However, these are delusional women that we are talking about and there are plenty of them in Singapore and Malaysia.


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QUOTE(bellion @ Aug 25 2011, 12:48 PM)
Unfortunately for properties B,C etc, their owners did not bother to check the condition and location of their own properties.  Property A is an Orchard Road penthouse and B, C are 30-year old HDB flats in Woodlands.  Even real-life property owners of said places would not be so dumb as to sell their assets at orchard road prices.  However, these are delusional women that we are talking about and there are plenty of them in Singapore and Malaysia.
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SO i guess yr all for foreign brides? wink.gif Vietnam? Thai? China these days also very materialistic.....

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