OK. But the feeling I get is that he's pretty well invested and has enough passive income. Not sure where the reference to EPF is coming from.

I'm not offended, as this is perhaps not directed at my one sentence posting. All I pointed out was that your painfully done analysis of Dreamer's age and therefore the possibility that he's lying - is based on the the central assumption that he retires at 55, which need not be true.

This post has been edited by seantang: Aug 21 2011, 10:25 PM

We make many decisions based on assumptions, when you visit a newly opened restaurant, you are taking chances by assuming what you see is tasty, the atmosphere with crowded patron should assure you've come to the right place and etc...

I don't claim to be right about dreamer101 and it wasn't on one topic alone, he PM me about it, maybe he forgot or I misunderstood and fall under probabilities, contrary to his method, I cannot retire at all but can do a job that I like until I die, I don't have the money to invest but I already invested heavily in skill and knowledge based reusable intellectual assets, I cannot be jobless because I can create jobs with ideas.

My mistake is to rely on existing jobs at a time I don't know how to utilize my creativity but I have a unique talent even rich people cannot buy, so I create my niche but I am not going to bring it to the grave, instead, I shall assume a support position so that my business partners can rest assured the investment is on the ever growing creative assets rather than my talent because it has no borders and cross religion.

Enrich others and my finances will be taken care of is my strategy, all I need is start the motor but will take a long time to develop a set of feasible contents because what I offer is a solution not another service. Not all good advise is viable and many unexpected ways to become rich and they are all average people once.

[quote=arielyek,Aug 21 2011, 10:23 PM]dreamer101,
if I say I want to be someone like you,
is that a wrong ( question )?

I found myself very hard to have the level of discipline that you have. ( especially during your college's time )
Is it because I lack of motivation?
how to discipline myself to be very focus on what am I doing? ( especially in my studies )
and also how to trained myself to be less emotional?

thank you.

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arielyek,

<<if I say I want to be someone like you,>>

Do not be like me. Choose your own path. Use whatever my teaching that is USEFUL to you. Set your own pace and goal.

<< I found myself very hard to have the level of discipline that you have. >>

It is NOT discipline.

Let me give your an example and perhaps you will UNDERSTAND. Let's say that you LOVE playing a particular game or computer game. You could spend days and nights playing it and you could NEVER get tired doing it. It is FUN for you.. Discipline is NEVER an issue for you. Nobody has to pay you to do it.

That was the way with ME in term of computer and computer networking. It is NOT discipline. I was playing a very fun game days and nights.

<<Is it because I lack of motivation?>>

You have NO IDEA why you are learning it and how it be useful in the future. You do not THINK about why and how it can be used. You do not know what you want to do in the future. So, how could you be MOTIVATED??

You have NO VISION...

<<how to discipline myself to be very focus on what am I doing? ( especially in my studies )>>

Where do you see yourself in 5 years?? What do you want to do when you graduated?? What do you need to do NOW to prepare for this??

If you answer those questions, then, you will know what you NEED to do.

<<and also how to trained myself to be less emotional? >>

Why?? Emotion is GOOD!!! It is a way for your subconscious mind to tell you that you have not been paying attention to something important to YOU.

Dreamer

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3dassets,

You have

A) A goal / Vision of what you want to achieve

B) A plan to make it happen

C) Execution / Action to carry out the plan.

Plus, the FINAL ingredient -> D) PERSISTENCE / DETERMINATION. You had failed in the first few tries but you keep on trying. Unless a rock fell from the sky and kill you instantly, you will keep on trying. So, that makes YOU no longer an average person.

How many people that you met has (A) to (D)??

I do not understand what you are trying to do. But, you have MY RESPECT on achieving your own goal and dream.

Those are the MENTALITY and ATTITUDE that I am talking about. Average people do not have that.

Dreamer


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 22 2011, 12:36 AM

I assume that you want train yourself to be less emotional when dealing with people.

You don't want your emotion to take control when there is a problem happened to you.

Try read some books related on how to enhance your communication skills or watch some inspirational movies.

Hope that will help.

If every one must waste their time like me to find their own potential, they are indeed doomed, they must upgrade themselves to meet the global demand, here is a sinkhole you said so yourself.

All products & services can be improved which is how businesses are made but bringing chicken rice into shopping mall and re-brand kopi into coffee is only stretching the limit, eventually, the market will become too small on top of low spending power due to stagnant salary and increased necessity, it is when our grandparents decide to emigrate from China to all over the world.

So, we are the descendant of the non average and the time has come to prepare our next great migration only this time, it can be done via the internet. The developed countries is how we will become and we can see our future already, when they visit us, they actually go back in time and their currency has higher value, if you want people here to do well, telling them not to be average must provide non average examples.

I learn from failures, I did not failed myself but people failed to grow their businesses by taking short term advantage because doing business is all about money it seems, does that phrase sounds familiar? What goes around comes around and the cycle repeat that manifest into a pattern that caused the chain effect today.

I need A, B, C & D to break this enslaving cycle created by rich people and you happen to be one of them.

good advise there
sound like a sad industry, can ask wat u in ?
and in view u have go so far already can ask ?
looking back.. what is the thing that you would have done better
thanks

Folks,

Time for another story. Some of the long timer in lowyat probably heard of this.

There was a person that wants to go oversea aka USA to study. But, he cannot afford it. So, he studied at University of Nottingham in Malaysia. Now, if this is a NORMAL aka AVERAGE person, the story end here. But, he did not give up. He found a summer work program that let he works at USA during summer while he studied at University of Nottingham. So, every year, he spent a few months working in USA as barrista at Starbuck's. He saved his money from this summer work program. Now, he is study his master in USA using the money saved.

Now, how many AVERAGE people would have stop and do nothing?? Meanwhile, some people HAVE the attitude that they would not accept NO as an answer. They are RESOURCEFUL. They go the EXTRA MILE.

Everyday, we have people WHINED about not getting paid well in this forum. But, how many people ASKED what I need to do to get paid well?? How do I learn to negotiate for better salary?? It is YOUR ATTITUDE that determined YOUR FUTURE.

Ditto, there are many people that WHINED about stuck in lousy job interview and getting lousy jobs. How many people ASKED what is THE BETTER WAY to job hunt so that you do not get stuck with those LOUSY JOBS??

I must not be a NORMAL person.

During school time, I spent time reading books on how to study so that I can study better. I spent times studying how to learn. I spent times studying how to speed read and take notes. Besides studying, I study on the method and process to study better and faster.

Ditto on job and career. I read books and research on job hunting method before I graduated. I learn how to negotiate for better salary.

WHY can't you do it?? What is the DIFFERENCE between YOU and ME??

It is THE ATTITUDE!!!

I do not LET THING HAPPEN. I make it happen. I took the INITIATIVE..

And, it is a lot EASIER in this day and age of Internet. You can take MIT , Harvard, and Princeton courses FREE over the Internet. But, how many people DO IT??

WHY??

Dreamer

Hi Dreamer,

I like your advice and have read all three of your recent "teaching" threads.

So I would like to ask your opinion on my situation.

After graduation I started working in a big company under probation. Because of some issues, the probation was extended. Now they have confirmed me as full staff, however they said my performance is actually not good. But they like my willingness to learn, my ability to easily talk to clients and that I am a team player, so they took a chance on me. Although I am expected to learn fast on the job, sometimes I feel very slow and do not understand much. FYI this job is somewhat related to my degree but my degree only briefly taught us about the skills for this job. Sometimes I get really frustrated about not being able to meet their standards. However I do like my job.

I would like to know if it is worth staying on, or perhaps I should change to another profession within the industry, since I do not seem to be able to absorb the skills fast enough. I can and will fight to stay on in my job, but sometimes I wonder if I'm in the wrong job..

attitude is everything...
go read this book...
then u will knw..

morgana_jara,

<<since I do not seem to be able to absorb the skills fast enough. >>

What is THE PROBLEM??

A) You DO NOT have the level of intelligence to understand??

B) You do not have the BACKGROUND and FOUNDATION to understand??

C) You DO NOT KNOW how to learn fast enough??

<<But they like my willingness to learn, my ability to easily talk to clients and that I am a team player, so they took a chance on me. >>

You should ask the seniors in your work place for advice on how to improve your learning process. What can you do better??

If you DO NOT KNOW what your problem is, how would you know you will not face the SAME SITUATION again in the new job??

Dreamer

I am not here to hijack dreamer101's topic and in art & design field but due to the difficult condition, I had to detach from it and build my own business never to bow to the market standard.

I have school mate in the negative film processing industry and know of an artist committed suicide along with his two children, what caused such condition is over supply of graphic students and the practice of suppression by the advertising owner to all selfish business people, hard working is STUPID just to impress the boss.

If the job does not have career advancement, don't waste your time if you can't break the norm, in other words, you create your own career because a job has its limit and ceiling value, you can't become rich under employment. A country will only progress if people take on development than wait for it to come.

Dear 3DASSETS.....by working, we will not get rich even how hard working or how above average dreamer is talking about......You may be able to get a comfortable savings at the end of the day that may allowed you to retire early, but that is not rich. Even you have saved millions but you still will not live like a rich.

Only when you go into the business world, then, you will be able to get rich and with opportunities coming you way, even you are just an average businessman, you will get richer than those above average & hard working working class men.

If rich, you will not blink an eye when you shop for your 3rd or 4th BMW. When rich, you will ask the real estate agent to show you an entire row of houses or shops instead of one unit. Being rich, you travel and stay in all 6 stars hotel and order a rolls royce to bring you around shopping for branded goods.

That is called RICH.

wrong place wrong time, but why need to suicide
tis remind me a quote - Speed is irrelevant if you are going in the wrong direction. - M. Gandhi

Why would you want to be someone? Someone can be taken to be as a role model or maybe a source of aspiration to become "someone". At the end of the day, the "someone" you want to be is not someone you want to to be in the end. The "someone" becomes someone like yourself.

Regards, Joey

this is interesting topic

There is no actual correct method to be rich.
Some can be rich by being employed and some can be rich by doing business. Some get it the hard way, some get it the easy way.

Different people have different talents & value.

I always believe in opportunities.
Whether you need to be genius or lucky, it's all also depend on opportunity and right timing.

Stop dreaming and complaining and start to be hungry...

Never stop learning and building our skills. That's the most important career / business value. Who knows opportunity might come right in front of you?

Rich in what?
money? cultural experience? happiness in relationship/family?

So, what's the rich definition on each individual?
However the default definition of rich is $$$

I do not believe opportunity will be sent in a package and sitting there right in front of your door. However, opportunity is to be chased and to be grabbed. Sometimes opportunity/opportunities, once they are gone, they are gone forever.

Regards, Joey

If this topic only talk about being that rich like only a handfull of people in the world, Malaysia only have a few and non of us here are. What is your point to talk about filthy rich lifestyle?

When the career when sour, everything will crumble. That person is one of the first few who computerize but he did not anticipate the economic recession and his model wife abandoned the family, people were envious of him just 10 years before that and illustrators become jobless and never recover, I cut my losses, pack up and move back to my parent's house, I am one of the few who manage to come back as an artist hoping 3D computer graphics will have a better chance but it never did even after 12 years and I had to break away for the second time.

No such thing as right place at the right time, you make it happen or forget it because even when luck comes, you are too old, I could not get anymore jobs because of over age, this kind of work belong to the young and dynamic as advertised and 35 is the limit, they don't dare to state to avoid discrimination.

There is no right or wrong decision only correct or incorrect because it can be corrected, so there is no mistake, only bad decision, this way, you will never fail, only how much you've gained.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Aug 22 2011, 04:14 PM

If not, every ali, muthu and ah kau also can claim that they are rich. Ali sees that having 100k in bank and with a stable job is rich, Muthu said having the ability to bring food on the table is rich enough and ah kau may say that without having few millions in the bank to support his easy life stlye, not to worry tomorrow become jobless is not rich.

and yes, we only have a handful of rich people, and also a handful of people who are above average as well.

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Aug 22 2011, 04:31 PM

if i intepret this correctly mean, u still gain, just that with bad decision cause u to gain lower

can i make some assumption and is not to offend u in anyway, but it will help me on some personal decision ?

u must be flying high at one point of time and did u get too comfortable ? cause u been emphasizing on continous improvement ? or your downfall is just purely coming from the recession ?

do you think with your continous improvement it would have a different result ?

thanks