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TSdreamer101
post Aug 18 2011, 08:53 AM, updated 14y ago

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Folks,

Average people are not rich. Rich people are not average.

In I-Ching aka book of change, there is no good or bad. Every strength become weakness under certain environment. Ditto on weakness. World / environment are dynamic. Changes are constant.

From "Art of War" by Sun Tzu, know your own strength and weakness, half of the battle is won.

The KEY to career planning is to know WHAT you are?? What are your own strength and weakness?? What kind of career and environment allow you to be ABOVE AVERAGE?? What can you do that is EASY for you but HARD for others?? Conversely, if you are in an environment that DOES NOT FIT your personality and temperament, you could work very hard but you will not go anywhere. The best that you can be is AVERAGE in that career.

Most of times, people ask THE WRONG QUESTION!!!

If you ask the WRONG QUESTION, you will NEVER get the RIGHT ANSWER!!

You could be successful in ANY career / business as long as you can EXCEL and ABOVE AVERAGE in that career / business.

To do that, you need 3 things:

1) Motivation -> You LOVE that area. Then, you could INVEST the extra 10,000 hours to be VERY GOOD in that area.

2) Talent / Temperament -> You are born to be better than average people in doing this kind of stuff.

3) Environment / Industry -> You are working in a country / environment / culture / industry that appreciate YOUR STRENGTH and would not mind your weakness so much.

Do not follow the herd of cows.. Cows get slaughtered. They just go into any hot areas that pays well. They do not ask and care whether they could be ABOVE AVERAGE in that area. That is what AVERAGE people do.

Find out WHAT you are. INVEST on yourself to be VERY GOOD in the area that YOUR STRENGTH will be appreciated.

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post Aug 18 2011, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 08:53 AM)
Folks,

Average people are not rich.  Rich people are not average.

In I-Ching aka book of change, there is no good or bad.  Every strength become weakness under certain environment.  Ditto on weakness.  World / environment are dynamic.  Changes are constant.

From "Art of War" by Sun Tzu, know your own strength and weakness, half of the battle is won.

The KEY to career planning is to know WHAT you are?? What are your own strength and weakness?? What kind of career and environment allow you to be ABOVE AVERAGE?? What can you do that is EASY for you but HARD for others?? Conversely, if you are in an environment that DOES NOT FIT your personality and temperament, you could work very hard but you will not go anywhere.  The best that you can be is AVERAGE in that career.

Most of times, people ask THE WRONG QUESTION!!!

If you ask the WRONG QUESTION, you will NEVER get the RIGHT ANSWER!!

You could be successful in ANY career / business as long as you can EXCEL and ABOVE AVERAGE in that career / business.

To do that, you need 3 things:

1) Motivation -> You LOVE that area.  Then, you could INVEST the extra 10,000 hours to be VERY GOOD in that area.

2) Talent / Temperament -> You are born to be better than average people in doing this kind of stuff.

3) Environment / Industry -> You are working in a country / environment / culture / industry that appreciate YOUR STRENGTH and would not mind your weakness so much.

Do not follow the herd of cows.. Cows get slaughtered.  They just go into any hot areas that pays well.  They do not ask and care whether they could be ABOVE AVERAGE in that area.  That is what AVERAGE people do.

Find out WHAT you are.  INVEST on yourself to be VERY GOOD in the area that YOUR STRENGTH will be appreciated.

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Those who knows, already successful and become boss or CEOs, now busy in the board meeting. Those who doesnt know, that's why they are asking.... laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 08:57 AM

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So?? Some people DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE in there lives. Some have their talents undiscovered. Some just doesn't have the opportunity like other successful ones...
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 08:56 AM)
Those who knows, already successful and become boss or CEOs, now busy in the board meeting. Those who doesnt know, that's why they are asking.... laugh.gif
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haha no some who know is surfing lowyatnet teaching us the stuff,
are u trying to imply dreamer not busy and not successful icon_idea.gif
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lets continue to learn how to be rich people rclxms.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(kuntilanak @ Aug 18 2011, 08:57 AM)
So?? Some people DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE in there lives. Some have their talents undiscovered. Some just doesn't have the opportunity like other successful ones...
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kuntilanak,

That is a bunch of BS!!

We do not have COMPLETE CONTROL of our lives. But, we have SOME CONTROL. Are you saying that you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO free time that you can decide where to invest your life on??

<<Some have their talents undiscovered.>>

WHY do you need people to discover YOU??

LOSERS wait for things to happen. WINNER make things happen.

<<Some just doesn't have the opportunity like other successful ones...>>

Which is another BS...

1) The successful people FAILED many many times. They just keep on trying...

2) They make OPPORTUNITY.

3) They are PREPARED. Hence, when the opportunity arises, they can jump on it.

4) Losers just WHINE and BLAME everyone else.

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Thank you. I now have an inspiration of what to do next. I have had doubts before this but I think I'm going to go all out for it.
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Folks,

Time for me to tell another story.

Once upon a time, I was studying in Texas, USA. Because I was foreign student, I paid international tuition fee and that is a few thousands per year. And, I worked part-time at the university computing center.

I am NOT normal. I actually read the university handbook completely a few times. Then, I found something interesting. Texas state law say that if you are a research or teaching assistant working part-time, you get tuition waiver. Aka, you pay in-state fee and can save a few thousands per semester. At the handbook, it claimed that you have to be graduate student studying master or Phd to qualify to be research assistant.

Now, if you are NORMAL people, you will stop there. But, I am NOT. So, I actually go to the LAW LIBRARY and FIND the EXACT LAW that define what RESEARCH ASSISTANT is. The LAW stated that a RESEARCH ASSISTANT is a student working part-time on a job that related to their study. I copied the law and went to admission office and ask for TUITION WAIVER. They have NO FORM and NO IDEA what to do. They had to create a form and ask me to ask my DEAN to certify my job is related to my degree (EE). I won!! Subsequently, every foreign students worked at university get waiver too.

So, tell me, will a person that always say

A) They have NO CHOICE.

B) They are undiscovered

C) They have NO OPPORTUNITY

do what I did??

This is MY ATTITUDE!!

I want HIGHER SALARY. I read and research books on how to negotiate and get better salary.

I want to invest better. I read and study how to be better in investing.

Now, for this kind of people, unless a rock fell from the sky and kill the person instantly, they will not fail. They may be beaten down again and again. But, they will keep standing up and keep trying.. They will get better and better. They will get somewhere.

It is EASY to tell whether a person can succeed or not. It is in THEIR ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.

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post Aug 18 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:36 AM)
I am NOT normal. 
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:36 AM)
Folks,

Time for me to tell another story.

Once upon a time, I was studying in Texas, USA.  Because I was foreign student, I paid international tuition fee and that is a few thousands per year.  And, I worked part-time at the university computing center.

I am NOT normal.  I actually read the university handbook completely a few times.  Then, I found something interesting.  Texas state law say that if you are a research or teaching assistant working part-time, you get tuition waiver.  Aka, you pay in-state fee and can save a few thousands per semester.  At the handbook, it claimed that you have to be graduate student studying master or Phd to qualify to be research assistant.

Now, if you are NORMAL people, you will stop there.  But, I am NOT.  So, I actually go to the LAW LIBRARY and FIND the EXACT LAW that define what RESEARCH ASSISTANT is.  The LAW stated that a RESEARCH ASSISTANT is a student working part-time on a job that related to their study.  I copied the law and went to admission office and ask for TUITION WAIVER.  They have NO FORM and NO IDEA what to do.  They had to create a form and ask me to ask my DEAN to certify my job is related to my degree (EE).  I won!!  Subsequently, every foreign students worked at university get waiver too.

So, tell me, will a person that always say

A) They have NO CHOICE.

B) They are undiscovered

C) They have NO OPPORTUNITY

do what I did??

This is MY ATTITUDE!!

I want HIGHER SALARY.  I read and research books on how to negotiate and get better salary.

I want to invest better.  I read and study how to be better in investing.

Now, for this kind of people, unless a rock fell from the sky and kill the person instantly, they will not fail.  They may be beaten down again and again.  But, they will keep standing up and keep trying..  They will get better and better.  They will get somewhere.

It is EASY to tell whether a person can succeed or not.  It is in THEIR ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.

Dreamer
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Sigh, i should have gone to Texas instead of Oklahoma so that i can also reap the benefits left by the seniors. BTW, i worked in the cafetaria and cleaners for the dorm, now figuring how it relate to my studies, may be the job of serving food is related to food technology and cleaning job related to Environmental enginering...... hmm.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 09:46 AM)
Sigh, i should have gone to Texas instead of Oklahoma so that i can also reap the benefits left by the seniors. BTW, i worked in the cafetaria and cleaners for the dorm, now figuring how it relate to my studies, may be the job of serving food is related to food technology and cleaning job related to Environmental enginering...... hmm.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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this is wat normal people do tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Aug 18 2011, 09:02 AM)
haha no some who know is surfing lowyatnet teaching us the stuff,
are u trying to imply dreamer not busy and not successful  icon_idea.gif
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laugh.gif Not busy is not equivalent to not successful.

May be he so effective, his board meeting had finished already while some others is still having their breakfast. laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:51 AM

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unfortunately your idea is ideal dreammaster.

Sure everyone wants to be engineer, doktor, lawyer all those professional jobs to be rich and successful but the competition is so tough not everyone can make it.


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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Aug 18 2011, 09:51 AM)
unfortunately your idea is ideal dreammaster.

Sure everyone wants to be engineer, doktor, lawyer all those professional jobs to be rich and successful but the competition is so tough not everyone can make it.
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When the day every one have become successful, may be Doktor also have to spend 8 hours a week to do toilet cleaning job in a public toilet as no more laborers. Every Tom, d***, Harry on the streets is Lawyer, Scientist or engineers. hmm.gif
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First post tells me to be the master of my domain and stick to what I know. Then later in another post I was told to get out of my comfort zone to grow into uncharted territory. I don't get it.
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Aug 18 2011, 09:51 AM)
unfortunately your idea is ideal dreammaster.

Sure everyone wants to be engineer, doktor, lawyer all those professional jobs to be rich and successful but the competition is so tough not everyone can make it.
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<< Sure everyone wants to be engineer, doktor, lawyer all those professional jobs to be rich and successful but the competition is so tough not everyone can make it.>>

STOP THINKING like an average people!!! Chasing HOT area instead of FINDING your own path.

Who says that YOU must be one of those to be successful??

We have a few EXCELLENT Chicken Rice Sellers in WHOLE Malaysia. Do they have problem being rich??

OBVIOUSLY, you did not read "Millionaire Next Door". The book based on actual research of millionaires in USA. By the way, most of the doctors and lawyers in USA are NOT RICH.

Here we go again. Average people THINKING like a herd.. Did not do any independent study to find out how many percents of doctors and lawyers are rich.

I did my own study. I do not just BELIEVE in common myth.

<<unfortunately your idea is ideal dreammaster.>>

How many rich and successful persons that you know from first hand contacts?? Many of my family members and friends are millionaires. They ranged from professional people with master degree to people NEVER enter high school like my cousins with ONLY SRJK© education...

Dreamer


Added on August 18, 2011, 10:04 am
QUOTE(Xerone @ Aug 18 2011, 09:58 AM)
First post tells me to be the master of my domain and stick to what I know. Then later in another post I was told to get out of my comfort zone to grow into uncharted territory. I don't get it.
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Xerone,

WHAT and WHERE can you excel at??

Answer that question and the rest is easy...

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 18 2011, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 10:01 AM)
WintersuN,
<< Sure everyone wants to be engineer, doktor, lawyer all those professional jobs to be rich and successful but the competition is so tough not everyone can make it.>>

STOP THINKING like an average people!!!  Chasing HOT area instead of FINDING your own path.

Who says that YOU must be one of those to be successful??

We have a few EXCELLENT Chicken Rice Sellers in WHOLE Malaysia.  Do they have problem being rich??

OBVIOUSLY, you did not read "Millionaire Next Door".  The book based on actual research of millionaires in USA.  By the way, most of the doctors and lawyers in USA are NOT RICH.

Here we go again.  Average people THINKING like a herd..  Did not do any independent study to find out how many percents of doctors and lawyers are rich.

I did my own study.  I do not just BELIEVE in common myth.

<<unfortunately your idea is ideal dreammaster.>>

How many rich and successful persons that you know from first hand contacts?? Many of my family members and friends are millionaires.  They ranged from professional people with master degree to people NEVER enter high school like my cousins with ONLY SRJK© education...

Dreamer


Added on August 18, 2011, 10:04 am

Xerone,

WHAT and WHERE can you excel at??

Answer that question and the rest is easy...

Dreamer
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Dreamer, for every successful man out there, there could be hundreds of unsuccessful men dead somewhere which is un-noticed. There are very successful chicken rice sellers, but many had failed before the few successful one emerged.

Talent + hard work + luck plays very important role to enable people to become successful. However, how many % of the majority mass are talented and hard working and have luck on their side? If not, Mr. Bill Gates is nobody or are there thousands and thousands of people which are far more successful than him. hmm.gif

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