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ivanswk
post Aug 18 2011, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 08:56 AM)
Those who knows, already successful and become boss or CEOs, now busy in the board meeting. Those who doesnt know, that's why they are asking.... laugh.gif
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haha no some who know is surfing lowyatnet teaching us the stuff,
are u trying to imply dreamer not busy and not successful icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:07 AM

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sorry master dreamer notworthy.gif
lets continue to learn how to be rich people rclxms.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:36 AM)
I am NOT normal. 
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 09:46 AM)
Sigh, i should have gone to Texas instead of Oklahoma so that i can also reap the benefits left by the seniors. BTW, i worked in the cafetaria and cleaners for the dorm, now figuring how it relate to my studies, may be the job of serving food is related to food technology and cleaning job related to Environmental enginering...... hmm.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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this is wat normal people do tongue.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 10:14 AM)
Dreamer, for every successful man out there, there could be hundreds of unsuccessful men dead somewhere which is un-noticed. There are very successful chicken rice sellers, but many had failed before the few successful one emerged.

Talent + hard work + luck plays very important role to enable people to become successful. However, how many % of the majority mass are talented and hard working and have luck on their side? If not, Mr. Bill Gates is nobody or are there thousands and thousands of people which are far more successful than him.    hmm.gif
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Fortuna est quae fit cum praeparatio in occasionem incidit.
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Seneca quotes thumbup.gif

edited the correct one is this..

"La fortuna non esiste: esiste il momento in cui il talento incontra l'occasione."
(Luck doesn't exist. There is only the moment when talent meets opportunity.)

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post Aug 18 2011, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 10:54 AM)
Dont know who is this Pak Dollah and dont really know what he had achieved by playing Wayang Kulit, thus, no comment on whether he is successful or not.  Even Mahathir has been so glorified and respected  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  once before he stepped down. But now, many of the people are so  vmad.gif with him and dont know how you describe him as whether successful or not. To gather wealth for the family, yes, definately, he is successful.

Also, Taiwan Ex-President, he had gone though his political life to become a President and now had been put into a jailed. How would you describe he is whether a success or not and at certain stage of his life is success or what?
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too summarise it, dun get caught and dun step down laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Aug 18 2011, 01:56 PM)

My real life story. I have two different Biology teacher during F4 & F5, one is very serious and barely smile even when he make jokes..and the other is a joker..I learn more from the serious one and I learned less from the other (he don't even finish the syllabus because he was too busy entertaining the students)..
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wow and u pass your biology with flying color and now a respectable brain surgeon tongue.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Aug 18 2011, 02:16 PM)
See where I am coming from? Just saying there is no right or no wrong in life- is who has the big gun is the king. Or the most gun wins- aka majority.
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and i thought GUN is illegal in Malaysia, now need to have Big Gun and Most Gun hhaha sweat.gif
ok ok just joking AKA not serious ok nod.gif

Dreamer, please continue ...


Added on August 18, 2011, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(blanket84 @ Aug 18 2011, 02:20 PM)
Yeah..my point is if you have to be selective of who is teaching instead of what is being taught, then you might not learn anything..
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:11 PM

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RICH .. brows.gif
get back to getting rich pls .. cool2.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 19 2011, 05:45 AM)

MeruChan,

YOU are thinking like an average person.  And, I believe probably you have very little to no FIRST HAND exposure to REAL rich people.

Dreamer
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post Aug 19 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(pUpUnOOb @ Aug 19 2011, 12:34 PM)
being happy does not mean you have to be rich...diff ppl have diff financial goals
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another fella doh.gif this is not about happy + rich or happy = rich
this is about being above average and getting rich and happy indirectly thumbup.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 1:21 pm
QUOTE(PenangLaksa @ Aug 19 2011, 12:05 PM)
Dreamer,

Do you consider yourself successful?
Cheers.

BR
PenangLaksa.
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can u be more specific, i can read your mind,
u want to ask how Dreamer is above average and is he RICH aka alot of money, tio boh? shakehead.gif


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post Aug 19 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Aug 19 2011, 02:25 PM)

Well I do have rich friends but most of them are dealing with illegal biz and I don't want to be a part of that. I don't want to say that I'm rich but I'm a lot more well off than a lot of people I've met. I'm grateful for that every single day. I'm grateful that I can spend more time with my mom who was diagnosed with cancer than chasing something materialistic.
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Yes u can continue be grateful.

But here are people father pass away while young, single mother brought up six kid. Everday worry about food, need to borrow money from relative and frend, sometime eat from leftover from dunno how many day before. Everyday live in fear, with no shelter as no money to pay rent.

Can u look at this positively, people work hard because they dun want to go back to kind of life, WTF wrong with u guys keep telling people dun aim for money and money is not everything, have u ever go through days without food, have u seen your younger sibling go hungry and your old mother sacrfice for u just to place food on the table.
have u have lie and steal to feed your family ?

different people different motivation, is not always about u, have u ever reach suicidal stage on your life, why why i have this kind of life, to end your life is easy, but about your young sibling and your mother

sometime people want to work hard and repay their parent kindness. And that why people want to be above average and to get rich. cry.gif






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post Aug 22 2011, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 22 2011, 02:42 AM)
If every one must waste their time like me to find their own potential, they are indeed doomed, they must upgrade themselves to meet the global demand, here is a sinkhole you said so yourself.

I learn from failures, I did not failed myself but people failed to grow their businesses by taking short term advantage because doing business is all about money it seems, does that phrase sounds familiar? What goes around comes around and the cycle repeat that manifest into a pattern that caused the chain effect today.

I need A, B, C & D to break this enslaving cycle created by rich people and you happen to be one of them.
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good advise there nod.gif
sound like a sad industry, can ask wat u in ?
and in view u have go so far already can ask ?
looking back.. what is the thing that you would have done better hmm.gif
thanks

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post Aug 22 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 22 2011, 11:47 AM)

I have school mate in the negative film processing industry and know of an artist committed suicide along with his two children, what caused such condition is over supply of graphic students and the practice of suppression by the advertising owner to all selfish business people, hard working is STUPID just to impress the boss.

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wrong place wrong time, but why need to suicide shakehead.gif
tis remind me a quote - Speed is irrelevant if you are going in the wrong direction. - M. Gandhi
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post Aug 22 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 22 2011, 04:11 PM)
There is no right or wrong decision only correct or incorrect because it can be corrected, so there is no mistake, only bad decision, this way, you will never fail, only how much you've gained.
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if i intepret this correctly mean, u still gain, just that with bad decision cause u to gain lower sweat.gif

can i make some assumption and is not to offend u in anyway, but it will help me on some personal decision ?

u must be flying high at one point of time and did u get too comfortable ? cause u been emphasizing on continous improvement ? or your downfall is just purely coming from the recession ?

do you think with your continous improvement it would have a different result ?

thanks hmm.gif


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post Aug 22 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 22 2011, 07:09 PM)
 
If you go back to my FIRST POST, one of the key ingredient is to find / go into an environment where your above average effort will be appreciated.  He recognized this TOO LATE.  So, he has to start all over again.

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hmm.gif u r rite


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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 22 2011, 08:43 PM)
Many rich people does not live a luxury life.
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hmm.gif u r rite


Added on August 22, 2011, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 22 2011, 09:02 PM)

A job is just to keep us alive if there is no career in it, we decide what and how to build our own career if cannot get the job we desire with the free time but a lot of people can't understand and rather go for part-time job such as MLM. The time should be spend on self improvement because it has better chance to make more money when we understand other things that yield business opportunity.

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hmm.gif u r rite

all sound rite notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Aug 23 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 23 2011, 12:23 AM)
Are there books entitle "The failed attempts" or "How not to fail" only "Dare to fail"?
Inventors in the past failed many times to succeed, formula are derived and new inventors will not repeat knowing what to avoid is equally as important as how to succeed. Business people take advantage of the young & naive and repeat the cycle to keep salary low, turning natural resources into money every year, how can recession happen and where are all the monies? Go tell the rich people to spend their money because they reap profit from the average people until not enough money to circulate.
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u seems to be enlighten and have you found a solution to your problem ? care to share ? nod.gif

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post Aug 23 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 23 2011, 09:21 AM)
I quote examples of being rich is when the time that you can or affordable to spend larvishly without blinking an eye. But when you have reached that level of rich, that doesnt mean that you really have to do that to prove it as everybody also know you are rich and are capable of doing that.

The rich men that i know, they are quite prudent (take note, their prudent may not bear the same meaning as your prudent) in their daily life style, but when they go overseas, wow.....they can really spend money like watering their garden. And you can see faces of them when they are at home and when out station.
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yes we envy the rich and we want to become like them drool.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 23 2011, 09:51 AM)
Participate in forum to challenge your own state of mind
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i agree on this rclxms.gif

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post Aug 26 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(rosemary @ Aug 26 2011, 10:33 AM)
For every rejection, we'll treat it as them as unlucky, they will regret not believing us.
For every failure, we will be upset, learn the lesson, but we will think of new solution the next morning.
For every negative thinking that want to hold us back, we will prove them wrong!!!
(But of course we must ACT the same way and not just THINKING in mind but not putting any efforts onto this)
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these words have long faded from my dictionary rolleyes.gif

brows.gif come on, any more meaningful quote thumbup.gif

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