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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V7 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:27 AM)
anyone here did 20k service before? how much should i expect, assuming i also want to change the cvt oil? also, is it just cvt oil change, and NOT cvt oil flush?

sorry for so many questions, just wanna make sure i know what they are gonna do at 20k, tks.
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Bro, I think you are the first few to hit 20K so far, so you have to be the guinea pig and do first, then you qualify as a sifu and then can teach us padawans.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on July 4, 2011, 12:32 am
QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
omg! i remember that day when u do servicing, i ask them to do the alignment for me too... n i remembered they change the wheels position leh.... bt nt sure whether they cross it or nt...  shakehead.gif

how do i check whether they put in the correct position??
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I think it may be too late to notice now.... coz they have already changed the tyre positions ma...

Just check at all you tyres, there will be a word OUTSIDE, and you are safe... if you see INSIDE, then the tyre is installed wrongly...

Next time u can tell them not to cross, just do front back sway... coz personally, i dont wan my tyres to roll in a different direction and is subjected to more uneven force and faster wear...

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:28 AM)
I am sure there are many names, spring rubbers, spring absorbers... just tell them its the rubber/silicone thing that you slot between the coil of the springs... they shld know... if they dont, walk away...  brows.gif  brows.gif

Changing rim and tyres usually wont, but u cant complain on FC, NVH if you changed lo... but changing springs will void...
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Google 'spring helpers'... cheap but good mod... and shud not void any warranty. Its simple to install and remove in case you really need to claim any suspension relate warranty.


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post Jul 4 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:27 AM)
anyone here did 20k service before? how much should i expect, assuming i also want to change the cvt oil? also, is it just cvt oil change, and NOT cvt oil flush?

sorry for so many questions, just wanna make sure i know what they are gonna do at 20k, tks.
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wa, you are seriously clocked your mileage higher than me a lot, mine last time got one car , 1 year only able to clock around 10k km, now got 2 car even less,may be 1 year 6k or 5k each car .....

QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:28 AM)
I am sure there are many names, spring rubbers, spring absorbers... just tell them its the rubber/silicone thing that you slot between the coil of the springs... they shld know... if they dont, walk away...  brows.gif  brows.gif

Changing rim and tyres usually wont, but u cant complain on FC, NVH if you changed lo... but changing springs will void...
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i expected that will bad a bit on FC, but the outcome that after change rims is price less.... rclxms.gif

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 4 2011, 12:28 AM)
maybe that time got BEAUTY on the road..so it ROAR louder.... normally no BEAUTY around....so just normal lor.... tongue.gif
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kekekeke... may be lo.. hahaa... he so emotional...hehehe...
the spark plug should change when reach 80K, but how much was the iridium spark plug? may be someone ask before but i didnt see.. hehehehe


Added on July 4, 2011, 12:36 am
QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 4 2011, 12:28 AM)
After u change to KNN & 'ralliart' air intake snorkel... u will hear the real roar...
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hohohoh... may be next time will do the "change" but not now lo... icon_rolleyes.gif
now i think my car is call InspiROAR shocking.gif

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:21 AM)
chyapp ,i think tat spark plug cant last so long la, i saw someone in waja club mention that DENSO iridium state can last 80k km but when 40k km open spark plug and check ,need to replace already.
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:21 AM)
Just saying what else are not included ma...

I strongly doubt the Iridium sparks on the Inspira will last 100,000kms esp as advised by Proton. Proton recommends SEMI engine oil to last 10,000kms, CVT oil to be changed EVERY 80,000kms.

So, you wanna trust Protons' advice??

I think I will change them arnd 40,000kms.
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dont trust proton nvm, trust mitsu la..

wikipedia pun ada, lancer manual pun ada rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

stated clearly here, which i posted b4 and it is even on the 1st post, spark plugs are changed every 100k km. but of course, u can change it at your own will.


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post Jul 4 2011, 12:44 AM

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hmm... seems like mitsu recommend fully synthetic oil.....
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:39 AM)
dont trust proton nvm, trust mitsu la..

wikipedia pun ada, lancer manual pun ada rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif 

stated clearly here, which i posted b4 and it is even on the 1st post, spark plugs are changed every 100k km. but of course, u can change it at your own will.
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yeahh... thanks.. i already print out.. next time i know lo.. i stick to my proton front screen window.. hahahaha


Added on July 4, 2011, 12:45 am
QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 4 2011, 12:44 AM)
hmm... seems like mitsu recommend fully synthetic oil.....
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eh.... 5W 40 is semi ma... shell HX7 also

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:39 AM)
dont trust proton nvm, trust mitsu la..

wikipedia pun ada, lancer manual pun ada rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif 

stated clearly here, which i posted b4 and it is even on the 1st post, spark plugs are changed every 100k km. but of course, u can change it at your own will.
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Hahahah... okok....

Proton uses diff parts than Mitsu ma.... engine oil oso Proton recommend SEMI... and same CVT oil last double the lifetime as compared to Mitsu ma...

I am doubting Proton's Iridium sparks supplier.... not Mitsu...

Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:45 AM)
Hahahah... okok....

Proton uses diff parts than Mitsu ma.... engine oil oso Proton recommend SEMI... and same CVT oil last double the lifetime as compared to Mitsu ma...

I am doubting Proton's Iridium sparks supplier.... not Mitsu...

Peace...  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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tot your iridium plug also imported leh... 1st batch.. sure ok la.. dun worry!!:) thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:45 AM)
Hahahah... okok....

Proton uses diff parts than Mitsu ma.... engine oil oso Proton recommend SEMI... and same CVT oil last double the lifetime as compared to Mitsu ma...

I am doubting Proton's Iridium sparks supplier.... not Mitsu...

Peace...  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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proton cannot touch the drivetrain, remember? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jul 4 2011, 12:06 AM)
I have no ill intention, just asking you questions based on your post. Let's break it down, shall we??
From this sentence, you have said you JUST TRIED in AUTO mode.... doesnt this imply that you had JUST (baru cuba) the first time tried the AUTO mode?? Hence, my question: Just curious, how the hell have you been driving an AUTO car??? U have been using the stick to shift from 1-6 and back down????

I am curious, why only NOW are you trying the AUTO mode, and how have you been driving your car ever since you got your car, by stick shift???
Here you typed that your car went from 0-100km/h WITHOUT gear change. So again, you have implied that you have never tried the AUTO mode, and also that you dont know how AUTO or CVT gearboxes work. Hence my question: Hmmm..... u know how to drive an AUTO..??

So, you tell me, what clarifications you need..??
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Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ... full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???


Just Tried out My inspira in auto mode = Just tried out Inspira performance in Auto Mode
Different car has different performance == is that so hard to understand?

Full Acceleration from 0 - 100km/h = Pressing my Acceleration Pedal to the max without letting go from 0 - 100km/h. Do you know that when you press your acceleration Pedal without releasing it, for auto it will not change gear?? I don't know if Mivec is the same but for other cars that I driven it will not change gear if you don't let go the accelerator.

Now do you understand my broken english ??

I may not speak/write very proper english but I do not see the case where you dun understand and it involves do i know how to drive an auto car.
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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 4 2011, 01:33 AM)
Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ... full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???
Just Tried out My inspira in auto mode = Just tried out Inspira performance in Auto Mode
Different car has different performance == is that so hard to understand?

Full Acceleration from 0 - 100km/h = Pressing my Acceleration Pedal to the max without letting go from 0 - 100km/h. Do you know that when you press your acceleration Pedal without releasing it, for auto it will not change gear?? I don't  know if Mivec is the same but for other cars that I driven it will not change gear if you don't let go the accelerator.

Now do you understand my broken english ??

I may not speak/write very proper english but I do not see the case where you dun understand and it involves do i know how to drive an auto car.
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Paragraph 1... U mentioned it uses 1st gear.. Do you mean u switch to manual mode and left it at gear 1?

Paragraph 2... For CVT, leaving it in Auto mode means it will auto shift itself or rather slowly changing ratios to match the intended speed based on the drivers respond to the accelerator in the given time while trying to maintain a reasonable fuel consumption. In your case you kept pressing the accelerator and the CVT assumes you want to gain speed and will change the ratios accordingly.

Driving a conventional Auto will also upshift the gears when it reaches the top rpm for the particular 'gear'

Paragrapht 3... there is no need to explain your english level to the BLUNT poadster... kekeke...


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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 4 2011, 01:47 AM)
Paragraph 1... U mentioned it uses 1st gear.. Do you mean u switch to manual mode and left it at gear 1?

Paragraph 2... For CVT, leaving it in Auto mode means it will auto shift itself or rather slowly changing ratios to match the intended speed based on the drivers respond to the accelerator in the given time while trying to maintain a reasonable fuel consumption. In your case you kept pressing the accelerator and the CVT assumes you want to gain speed and will change the ratios accordingly.

Driving a conventional Auto will also upshift the gears when it reaches the top rpm for the particular 'gear'

Paragrapht 3... there is no need to explain your english level to the BLUNT poadster... kekeke...
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Hahaa:) good explaination:)) :clap :clap
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post Jul 4 2011, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 4 2011, 01:47 AM)
Paragraph 1... U mentioned it uses 1st gear.. Do you mean u switch to manual mode and left it at gear 1?

Paragraph 2... For CVT, leaving it in Auto mode means it will auto shift itself or rather slowly changing ratios to match the intended speed based on the drivers respond to the accelerator in the given time while trying to maintain a reasonable fuel consumption. In your case you kept pressing the accelerator and the CVT assumes you want to gain speed and will change the ratios accordingly.

Driving a conventional Auto will also upshift the gears when it reaches the top rpm for the particular 'gear'

Paragrapht 3... there is no need to explain your english level to the BLUNT poadster... kekeke...
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When you start your engine and put it in D when it moves izzit 1st gear?

You just Proof that Poadster did not understand what I'm trying to say and you just answered what I want to know. Thank You.

Conventional Auto will upshift when it reaches Top RPM but it wont shift when you keep pressing your accelerator.

You think too highly of him.
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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 4 2011, 02:52 AM)
but it wont shift when you keep pressing your accelerator.
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bro, you can't say like this, let say if you drive an auto trasmission car, i means 4 speed traditional auto trasmission. u keep pressing your accelerator from 0 to 100, your first gear only can last to 60 which at 6500rpm, for sure even you keep press it also will shift to 2nd gear for you to reach 100 right? how can it wont shift up when you keep pressing your accelerator? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 4 2011, 02:52 AM)
When you start your engine and put it in D when it moves izzit 1st gear?

You just Proof that Poadster did not understand what I'm trying to say and you just answered what I want to know. Thank You.

Conventional Auto will upshift when it reaches Top RPM but it wont shift when you keep pressing your accelerator.

You think too highly of him.
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when you put it to D, technically it is 1st gear but CVT do not have gears ..they run on diff ratios all the time & this is where you got confused thinking you get from 0-100km/h with 1st gear, because you didnt see RPM drop like conventional auto car but yet the car can reach 100km/h, the actual fact is CVT is working the ratio so you get the best possible acceleration without the drop in RPM which is more efficient...conventional auto when the RPM drops to change gear you experience a loss of torque for 1 to 2 seconds.. even manual cars experience this during gear shift while CVT can maintain high RPM throughout the whole process...I leave it to you to understand how it works by reading up or watch the YouTube video that ckk125 posted earlier for you as a new owner, because it took all of us sometime to grasp the concept too...

dont mind poadster's comment...the way he points out the obvious is always very BLUNT..we got used to it ...
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 4 2011, 08:49 AM)
when you put it to D, technically it is 1st gear but CVT do not have gears ..they run on diff ratios all the time & this is where you got confused thinking you get from 0-100km/h with 1st gear, because you didnt see RPM drop like conventional auto car but yet the car can reach 100km/h, the actual fact is CVT is working the ratio so you get the best possible acceleration without the drop in RPM which is more efficient...conventional auto when the RPM drops to change gear you experience a loss of torque for 1 to 2 seconds.. even manual cars experience this during gear shift while CVT can maintain high RPM throughout the whole process...I leave it to you to understand how it works by reading up or watch the YouTube video that ckk125 posted earlier for you as a new owner, because it took all of us sometime to grasp the concept too...

dont mind poadster's comment...the way he points out the obvious is always very BLUNT..we got used to it ...
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Nice explanation by Soothy and video by ckk125. I know CVT has two pulley, but that video clears up the whole picture. smile.gif

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post Jul 4 2011, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 4 2011, 02:52 AM)
When you start your engine and put it in D when it moves izzit 1st gear?

You just Proof that Poadster did not understand what I'm trying to say and you just answered what I want to know. Thank You.

Conventional Auto will upshift when it reaches Top RPM but it wont shift when you keep pressing your accelerator.

You think too highly of him.
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Daniel, I do not know your tone of reply in this message but I think we are here to learn a thing or two and not argue till someone gives in. The last sentence is totally uncalled for.

Sothy has explained cvt further and you can also google further for how it works, someone posted the youtube link here too. It starts at a virtual "1st" gear and moves all the way up without you realising, so technically it did not remain in "1st" gear and rpm does not drop much when it switches gear.

Someone here also explained how the conventional autobox works, it also do not stays at 1st gear till 100km'h. Every car gb has different gear ratios and top speed for each "gear", it stated in the specification of each car in the brochure or user manual. So I guess what you mean here is it did not shift when one presses the accelerator but it will only reach that max speed/rpm and not any higher...

You stated something, we tried to correct the perception. If you think we are still wrong, there is always google and wikipedia.


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when he understands he will appreciate the concept of CVT more...we were once a blur sotong on CVT...so we are all here to share info & better understand the beast we all bought..don't feel bad and have ill feelings towards each other...just like Matrix don't mind being called a daredevil already....kekeke
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 4 2011, 07:43 AM)
bro, you can't say like this, let say if you drive an auto trasmission car, i means 4 speed traditional auto trasmission. u keep pressing your accelerator from 0 to 100, your first gear only can last to 60 which at 6500rpm, for sure even you keep press it also will shift to 2nd gear for you to reach 100 right? how can it wont shift up when you keep pressing your accelerator?  sweat.gif
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That's the points Nzh what i wanted to know was throughout the process 0 - 100km/h did Mivec shift?? For convention auto/tradition auto it needs to shift but mivec seems like did not shift. My question was simple, but Poadster wrote something out of the question what does it have to do with do I know how to drive an auto car??? I find it offensive while others are supporting what he said which is entirely out of the topic.

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