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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V7 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?

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post Jul 2 2011, 09:36 PM

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Just drove 470km today...PJ->Ipoh->PJ. Reached home now only. Hmm, the strange thing is, i don't hear the whistling sound anymore after hitting 140km/h to 160 km/h....dunno what happened....maybe the SC did something on my 1st service?? But i doubt it...oh well, dun care..

Tomorrow fill up my tank and see how many km/l i get...


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post Jul 3 2011, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 2 2011, 10:21 PM)
i agree that the driving experience is nice..bt i it would be nicer if can build the car properly... eg.. tight fitting parts, n "gaps"... >< especially on the most expensive car for the company....

I hv to say... the more u expore on the car, the more "surprise" u'll find.. >< or maybe is just my car... >< hopefully all this minor issue can b fix in the SC.....
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Added on July 3, 2011, 7:59 am
QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 3 2011, 12:05 AM)
Soon you will be angry with your Inspira..because it will make you a daredevil on the road, just like Matrix  tongue.gif
Did you read his ipoh trip experience, 160km/h, and he claims to be a slow driver,  rolleyes.gif
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Wooi!! I only go at those speed momentary only. Not like you guys go 200km/h all the way.... tongue.gif I was actually trying to make a best FC record, but unfortunately, that means driving 90km/h on the left lane with the lorries....tried it for a while...cannot tahan....

Actually, feels sleepy on way back and was hogging the fast lane a while at 100km/h because my feet fell asleep...suddenly realized one car was cucuk behind me and i quickly push up the RPM and sped away at 150km/h....if you drive a City or Vios....you'll be desperately looking for a hole to crawl back to the middle lane.... whistling.gif

With Inspira, you'll know you have enough power to overtake most cars in most situations. rclxms.gif (Unless of course, you are cucuk by a Feralee).


Added on July 3, 2011, 8:01 am
QUOTE(psycho1 @ Jul 3 2011, 12:15 AM)
Thats the spirit of PROTON...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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jealous Proton basher who don't own an Inspira detected. whistling.gif In your heart, you always want an Inspira. Just admit it. biggrin.gif


Added on July 3, 2011, 8:19 am
QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 3 2011, 01:06 AM)
You are right, but also need to consider properly if you want the comfort of an inspira or dont mind a little harsher ride with an 18", its just about getting used to the harsher ride after the 18", but looks way better. honestly 18" gives the look it really deserves, so decide properly,
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Yeah, the Inspira is tuned for comfort, not maximum handling...if we change the wheels like this, it's like trying to turn it to a Lancer, and in the process, neither here nor there...don't get the best comfort, or get the best handling....I am sticking to comfort since this is a family sedan for me...(and 16" tyres cheaper i think...how much is that continental CC5 anyway?).
Speaking of tyres, i haven't check the air in my spare tyres, how much do you guys pump for spare tyre in the Inspira? My Savvy spare tires also no air already...must pump it up soon.

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post Jul 3 2011, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jul 3 2011, 11:29 AM)
is it inmspira use campro engine ??? mind anyone can enlighten me ?? cos campro = kancil engine la
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post Jul 3 2011, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jul 3 2011, 04:28 PM)
No questions are stupid... We learned that from school smile.gif

Inspira is using 2.0 / 1.8 Mitsi's MIVEC engine. The engine is directly sourced from Japan & Mitsubishi does not allow PROTON to temper with the engine.
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Wrong. If you can access internet to come here, you can ask uncle google and aunty wikipedia.

that question is like saying... is Ipad 2 has Intel i3 inside? Coz Intel i3 is slow as turtle...like 286.



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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jul 3 2011, 04:32 PM)
We have to be patient mar... Kesabaran membawa berkat.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 3 2011, 06:01 PM)
Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ... full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???
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Eh...how u know it doesn't change gear in "D" mode?? Or u use paddle shift to gear 1??
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post Jul 4 2011, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 4 2011, 08:49 AM)
when you put it to D, technically it is 1st gear but CVT do not have gears ..they run on diff ratios all the time & this is where you got confused thinking you get from 0-100km/h with 1st gear, because you didnt see RPM drop like conventional auto car but yet the car can reach 100km/h, the actual fact is CVT is working the ratio so you get the best possible acceleration without the drop in RPM which is more efficient...conventional auto when the RPM drops to change gear you experience a loss of torque for 1 to 2 seconds.. even manual cars experience this during gear shift while CVT can maintain high RPM throughout the whole process...I leave it to you to understand how it works by reading up or watch the YouTube video that ckk125 posted earlier for you as a new owner, because it took all of us sometime to grasp the concept too...

dont mind poadster's comment...the way he points out the obvious is always very BLUNT..we got used to it ...
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Nice explanation by Soothy and video by ckk125. I know CVT has two pulley, but that video clears up the whole picture. smile.gif

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 4 2011, 09:49 AM)
Ya.. we were once wondering why the car like so slow in pick up.. like no kick... but mana tau speed sudah capai 140... and still going....  Yes, Matrix has got the fever... the daredevil in him can no longer be suppressed anymore... The beast has unleashed it... Enjoy your ride Matrix, tell us more speed escapades...
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Kanasai u curse me....today really got fever...and sore throat!!! Just now a red Inspira WUU 1313 park next to my car...anyone here?? tongue.gif

Now i have to go drink 'leong sui' and take panadol....


Added on July 4, 2011, 7:12 pm
QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 4 2011, 05:32 PM)
yes, check the 1st post on the 1st page for the review by Rublik...
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Ooh, i didn't know....now i go read.
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Not review lar...just package info only....thinking of doing autofoam on my Inspira now....

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post Jul 4 2011, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 4 2011, 02:40 PM)
I am thinking of buying an Inspira. Maybe within this month.
Can anyone tell me which type of Ecotint is being used? Raybarrier or Hybrid 4 or Hybrid 6? Or something else?
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Not really sure, i think it's 4mm. Somebody sayz it worth RM3k...i duno, but it's good enough oready. Don't waste money doing more tints. Better save it for autofoam and sound proofing further, you'll enjoy more. smile.gif
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post Jul 5 2011, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ash @ Jul 5 2011, 01:09 AM)
Does any of you think that the Eco tint that comes together with the Inspira is good enough for sunlight and UV blockage?

I'm wondering if I should apply another layer of tint. Will have to spend another 200 bucks for auto lock as well

getting my car this week!! So excited!!
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Save the money for the tint. Most tint already block 99% UV even cheap one, it's only the IRR which is different. The Inspira tint is good enough. Security tint somemore. No need to do another layer. As for the lock, you may want to consider the locktech/locktact pedal lock...much more convenient than conventional locks.

If got money, do further soundproofing and autofoaming....then show us the result in TT sessions....hehe.


Added on July 5, 2011, 7:36 am
QUOTE(joelton12345 @ Jul 4 2011, 10:12 PM)
just wondering average fuel consumption for the inspira model? which model is better between 1.8cvt and 2.0cvt, is that worth to buy compare to honda city regardless the segment  thing, due to the pricing is the same?
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This is 2.0cc car, so dun expect good fc lor. Avg 9km/l for city drive, and 13km/l-14km/l is achievable on highway. Honda City, what a joke....just a bit better than a Myvi....small car, no power, cramp leg rooms. I dun wan.

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:25 AM)
since many like to knw bout FC:

Proton Inspira can go 900 kms on a tankful

It’s like the early 1980s again… I don’t mean like the days when you could get a BMW 320i for RM60,000 or when a litre of petrol was around one ringgit. I’m talking about fuel economy runs which were popular back then because it was thought that people would care about fuel consumption. But at around RM1 a litre then, most Malaysians didn’t consider fuel consumption as a major factor in choosing a new car and eventually, economy run competitions faded away.
In 2011, the cheapest petrol you can buy is almost 3 times what it cost in the early 1980s and it has been increasing frequently in the past few years. So motorists now care much more about how much fuel their car uses and the car companies seem to sense that it’s time to highlight the economical nature of their models.
This year, I’ve already been on three economy runs – the first with a Honda Insight to Melaka, a second one with a Ford Focus TDCi in early May, and last week, another one in a Proton Inspira 2.0 from Shah Alam, Selangor, to Penang and back. If you subscribe to our Twitter feed, you’ll know that the best result achieved from this run was 934 kms potential range with the Inspira’s 59-litre tank which lasted the entire journey. Here’s the story of the Proton Inspira Economy Challenge (PIEC).
Unlike the two earlier runs, this one by Proton was much more realistic in that the organizers set conditions that forbade extreme ‘techniques’ to stretch each litre. With most runs, other than setting a specific time to arrive at a destination – with penalties for lateness – there are no other conditions as to how the driving is done. So it was possible to switch off the air-conditioner (to eliminate compressor load), increase tyres pressure substantially (to reduce rolling resistance) and roll downhill in neutral gear. You can get fantastic fuel economy doing these things but who really does their motoring like that? For the PIEC, all these techniques were forbidden and to ensure that the participants didn’t cheat, an independent observer was placed in each car.
Proton’s challenge to the media was to go as far as possible driving the Inspira and there were 10 cars in the event - five driven by owners invited to join the event and five driven by journalists. Following usual practice, the bonnet and fuel lid were sealed and the organizers even installed a box over the air-conditioner controls so they could not be touched (the settings were the same for all the cars, with the air-conditioner running all the time).
At the start of the run, the range was projected as 310 kms with a full tank but after economical driving for some distance, it increased and when the fuel tank level was half, the potential range was 470 kms

I was again partnered by Daniel Fernandez (editor of Asian Auto) whom I was happy to have as he had shown that he would not go crazy in the mobile sauna room and also had the patience to drive at well below the speed limit on the highway. This time, of course, we expected the going to be a lot more ‘civilised’ as the cabin would be cool. The only thing was that the fresh air vent was also set to open so there were occasions when unpleasant smells got in!
The starting point was Proton’s head office complex in Shah Alam and as it is right beside a major highway, it was thought that we could depart and join the North-South highway for an easy drive north (no sweat, literally!). But an early morning downpour (plus being a Monday morning) caused a long jam and it wasn’t until past the Damansara turn-off that I could maintain a steady speed. In the horrendous jam, the fuel consumption was terrible – as bad as 4 kms/litre (converted from the display on the instrument panel which shows in ‘litres/100 kms’).
Paddle shifters on the steering wheel which are standard for the Inspira 2.0 made it easier to select gears quickly on the CVT. (Right) Air-conditioner controls were covered to prevent us from turning the system off!

Once it was possible to cruise at a steady speed, I began to experiment with various ways of driving, all with the objective of keeping the revs as low as possible. However, being a 2-litre Inspira, it was equipped with a CVT (continuously-variable transmission) which has different and unusual characteristics from a normal automatic transmission. Though it has 6 ‘speeds’, it doesn’t really have gears and the ‘speeds’ are pre-set steps in the transmission system to simulate shift points. The good thing about the CVT is that it allows greater fuel efficiency and even at 100 km/h, you can get a ridiculously low rpm.
Observing the bar graph which displayed real-time consumption, it became apparent that a cruising speed of between 70 km/h and 85 km/h was best. Too slow and the CVT would refuse to go into the highest ratio. So the strategy was to manually shift up (using the paddles mounted behind the steering wheel) to top gear as quickly as possible. Unlike a manual transmission where you might shift up too fast and labour the engine, automatics don’t allow you to get into a gear that’s too high until it’s okay.
Another thing that I found was that when you push the lever to the right into manual shift mode, the revs tend to be marginally higher. This is probably because it’s a ‘sports mode’ so the transmission is kept ready for stronger acceleration. But if you keep it in ‘D’, the transmission also tends to shift down and bump the revs up frequently. So the trick was to use sports mode to shift up quickly and once to gear was reached, to push the lever back to ‘D’ so the revs would be stay at their lowest.
Red lights are really bad for fuel consumption and if you know you're going to be stopped for a long time, shutting down the engine helps. It's helpful to keep and eye on the lights and if they are red as you approach, slow down to coast the remaining distance and see if the lights change and you don't have to come to a stop
Being a 2-litre version, the car also had cruise control and this feature is useful for fuel-saving. It maintains a more steady throttle position than would be possible if you tried using your foot pressure to maintain a desired speed. So if your car has cruise control, use it when you are able to travel long stretches without much traffic.
After the lunch stop in Ipoh, we were made to drive along the old road to Kuala Kangsar which was again to get ‘real-world’ driving conditions. Apart from the fact that it rained and reduced visibility, there were also a lot of heavy vehicles to overtake and then the climb uphill by the side of the cement plant. All these bumped up the consumption but we expected to compensate when we got back on the highway.

From the experience with an earlier run, we were apprehensive about the traffic conditions in Penang. We arrived late in the afternoon as rush hour was starting so it was a nightmare trying to drive economically. We were fortunate to get a ‘green wave’ through the lights again which helped and when we got to the hotel, we had travelled 330 kms and the remaining range was 440 kms. This would mean an average fuel consumption of 13 kms/litre.
Heavy rain and large lorries prevented steady speeds, impacting fuel economy severely. The GPS unit provided by the organisers for each car showed the projected time of arrival so we could pace ourselves

The tripcomputer provided average fuel consumption as well and as we tried different methods of driving, the figure would go from as poor as 5 kms/litre to 22 kms/litre. This was especially so when we started off in the morning and the consumption would be really terrible because the computer was using limited data; as the distance increased, it would adjust the reading which would typically become better.
Likewise with the range remaining which would also be dependent on how you had been driving during the times it took readings. You could be driving economically most of the time and then when you happened to drive aggressively or idled for long periods, then the range would become less. So the important thing to remember is that the range remaining is only an indication and you should never rely on it 100%. Anyway, when the level is very low, you will get a reminder that you should refuel as quickly as possible.
The journey back was less eventful as it was all on the highway. Our speed averaged 70 - 80 km/h and most of the journey was done using cruise control. The only time we had a panic was near Sg Buloh where roadworks had caused a jam to build up and that affected the consumption a bit.

Economical driving techniques can make your tank last up to 900 kms before this warning light comes on in the Inspira
The numbers were not as spectacular as in our earlier run because, as mentioned, the conditions were different. Other than the speed being on the low side, I’d say that the conditions of driving were realistic and show the effectiveness of the CVT in reducing consumption as well as the generally economical nature of the 2-litre engine. For the record, we achieved a potential range of 867 kms (including 90 kms remaining) while the best result of 934 kms (including 140 kms remaining) was achieved by the car which had Autocar ASEAN’s Hafriz Shah as one of the crew. Even the owners did well, with the best result being 904 kms (including 110 kms remaining). If you take the average consumption of the best figure by an owner and by a journalist, it would work out to be an average of 15.6 kms/litre. That’s pretty good for a 2-litre engine and the sort of figure which any motorist should be real happy to have.
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You do the challenge or you copy and paste from somewhere?? If you do the challenge...notworthy.gif...

Driving 70km/h - 85km/h....i pay 90k for this car for what?? Savvy also can do better!! Who cares fuel...VRROOOMM VROOOM AWAY!!!! LOL. 70km/h....slower than lorry, latter lorry cucuk you in slow lane...i'll rather drive faster, use more petrol than be langgar by lorry/bas from behind....sweat.gif....

Anyway, my daily commute to/fro work < 9 km if i am not going anywhere.....2 weeks pump once only if not much weekend drive.....when i reach highway, must VROOMMM..VROOMM...

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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 09:47 AM)
Thanks Matrix! Now, I found poadster post somewhere in the forum stating the following:
Well certainly that is very good already. So for sides, we are having VLT of 60% IRR 90%.
For front and back, I suppose it is the 64% TSER for the front which gives us VLT 58% and IRR 97%.
For the back, the 60% TSER gives us VLT 63% and IRR 95%.
If not mistaken JPJ regulation is 70% for side and 75% for front windshield? So this 60% and 58% VLT for sides and  front respectively is darker than allowed by the regulation? (I am just thinking of making it a bit darker).
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Frankly, i think none of these tints passed the JPJ regulations...even the new tint i've just done for my Savvy..also 5x% VLT....but i dunno maybe you can blame Proton if JPJ saman you....after all, this is default tint from Proton....that's why better than doing our own tint....now can write to Star and blame Proton if JPJ ever saman u. laugh.gif

Here's a good read:
http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...D=RT.ATC.CAR.NW

See the specs here already failed the 70% VLT requirement....remember, this is tint level only...add to your glass maybe another 8% VLT loss....sure all failed....

http://www.ecotint.com/p_automotive-solarsecurity.html
http://www.v-kool.com.my/automotive_cat.php

I think as long as your tint isn't totally dark (like some cars i saw on the road...these guys don't give a fcuk...), modified with big oversized spoilers, looks like Ah Beng cars...most likely police/JPJ won't kacau u.

Seriously, this 70% VLT i believe, is made for JPJ to cari makan...they should raise the standard to 50%, a more realistic figure and you still can see the people inside. I mean they can always ask people to roll down windows in road block....if people have intention to ram your road blocks (criminals), Zero tint also they'll ram....

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post Jul 5 2011, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(zuladha @ Jul 5 2011, 11:35 AM)
All inspira tinted is pass by JPJ. reading is 48%. I check with JPJ already & the result OK. can use. dont worry.
but dont put double layer. u will kena 1. save ur money.
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Proton bribed JPJ liao...or use the powah of UMNO krony datuk. LOL. Where did u get this 48% info btw? Just curious. And 48% of what? 48% VLT means failed wor...

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 5 2011, 11:44 AM)
Yes, from his own experience... So painful his 2nd layer kena removed but lucky ecotint layer remained undamaged else lagi sakit.
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I see...but i still dun understand lor...i thought the specs for the tint there says 6x% VLT??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 12:18 PM)
Is 48% the VLT reading (ILLEGAL) or does it mean it just does not allow 48% of light but 52% can pass through (LEGAL)? Applicable for side only. For front VLT should be 70%.
Important to know for whoever is thinking of adding any 2nd layer which would surely break the so-called law.
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Either way also failed...48% VLT failed...52% VLT failed...that's why kepala pusing...LOL.
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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 02:08 PM)
But I thought 50% VLT (for side) is the so-called regulation from JPJ? 70% for front? So 52% for side should pass because it allows 2% more light than the minimum.

Anyway, just like you said, don't touch anything. The disclaimer is always pointing towards Proton.


Added on July 5, 2011, 2:12 pmI found this LYN through google and I like the discussion Inspira owners are having so far. There are quite a lot of useful information around. It would be more convenient if this information is structured properly. Is that being done or is there a sort of index that newcomers can refer to so that they don't repeat the same question again?
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Yes, but the windscreen of the Inspira is Ecotint hybrid 6mil or 4 mil....either one also failed the 70% VLT requirement.

I dun think anyone can structure these information properly...this is a forum, not a Document Management System...lol.
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QUOTE(Krepek @ Jul 5 2011, 03:44 PM)
T_T... what can i say... women drivers..tsk tsk...
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Wat to do....like 2 or 3 weeks back...my wife kena the bottom and the side skirting also came out...luckily can fix it back easily and dun see any paint damage..
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QUOTE(zuladha @ Jul 5 2011, 03:47 PM)
Car only ma. U should ask her....she ok or not. She is  more important for ur life ma.
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If she can stand there telling you she hit your car means she is ok lor....hahaha....but i also kena from my wife for same reason....
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 5 2011, 04:48 PM)
noooooooo 2.33% offer come wrong timing!!!!

btw the new batches of Inspir with more local parts, so far so good?
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Mine is pretty good. 2 months plus. Only have the whistling sound issue at high speed which mysteriously dissappear...maybe haven't run-in enough...haha.
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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 04:52 PM)
Zul reminded us, Poadster touched my heart, oh my inspira wife....I mean inspirational wife, the one and only. I dedicated Inspira to you. Drive it, whatever happened to it, I still sayang you.
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Added on July 5, 2011, 5:00 pm
QUOTE(DM3 @ Jul 5 2011, 04:56 PM)
damn true,
its only a car, appreciate your wife/love ones more than anything which holds true to me on my wife's hospitalization recently
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Is she ok now? Hope she gets well soon.

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