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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V7 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?

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post Jul 3 2011, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 2 2011, 09:36 PM)
Just drove 470km today...PJ->Ipoh->PJ. Reached home now only. Hmm, the strange thing is, i don't hear the whistling sound anymore after hitting 140km/h to 160 km/h....dunno what happened....maybe the SC did something on my 1st service?? But i doubt it...oh well, dun care..

Tomorrow fill up my tank and see how many km/l i get...
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This is the very meaning of "Pemandu yang berhemah"....!!!!

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post Jul 3 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 2 2011, 11:58 PM)
just back from genting, inspira engine power low end really not that good. but after 4000rpm is better then my waja, while in some tight corner heel and toe change to first gear, damn smooth,but 1st and 2nd gear ratio gap too big, even i rev first gear till 6500rpm then change to 2nd gear also drop rpm at around 3500rpm still need wait a while then the power only come out. the brake also very " eat" while downhill, but the comfort setting encounter too much body roll, cannot cornering like my waja till tires also " cik cik cik" . heel and toe in inspira a bit hard compare to waja , because the brake pedal position higher than acceleration pedal, while waja is 2 pedal almost same height.
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Just to compare my experience... 2.0P with 4 adults... Used AUTO most of the way, except for a few stretch where I paddle-d.

InspiRED (my car) performed very well on auto, no power loss and the CVT was never hunting up and down (most auto cars will hunt esp when the slope gets tougher)... during paddle, the CVT surged up to the MIVEC zone easily, and paddling from 6000rpm to the next gear, it never dropped to below 5000... this is the same as on flat roads, the advantage of electronics and paddle-shifters vs hands and feet of manual gear change....

(I still think paddle-shifting will beat any manual tranny car in a drag race....)


As for your body roll, I just did simple mods at the springs of the car... my wheels were screaming at a few stretch but the roll was not noticable.... my regular passengers that are usually vomit-ty when I reach the summit, are surprised that they are not... that by how much better the mod made the car...

in fact, some fellas here can attest on how inspiRED's rear wheels was pushed to "slip" during another test drive session.... blush.gif blush.gif


All in, the drive session up and down was fun, i over took many T & H and even my fellow german brands on M & B too.... am tempted to tiong a taxi, but.... next time, maybe...


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post Jul 3 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 3 2011, 12:32 AM)
when the meter reach till 135, u'll want to let the meter go higher cos it still can easily go up.. ><

hard to go below 1000km/h la bro.... ><
WHOOOAAAHHH....!!!!





But i know the feeling... the car just simply wanna go faster....!!!
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 3 2011, 12:37 AM)
yeah , one of the advantage of cvt, can keep the engine working at its good power zone. which manual can't do so. poadster what spring u change to? mind to share? tq
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U can either change to a lowered Tanabe (like what Mr SothysSaleShop did)... or Eibach, i think the Inspira version should be available by now...

Me, I did a cheap mod.... I installed rubber dampers in between the slots of the springs, all 4 of them... immediately you will notice that your car dont "dip" and roll as much.... the most noticeable "dip", when you hit the brakes, your front no longer "bounces"....
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post Jul 3 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 3 2011, 06:01 PM)
Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ... full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???
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Just curious, how the hell have you been driving an AUTO car??? U have been using the stick to shift from 1-6 and back down????

Hmmm..... u know how to drive an AUTO..?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif


Added on July 3, 2011, 10:58 pmINFO on Continental CC5 tyres...

The stock Continental CC5 tyres that comes with the Inspiras are ASYMMETRICAL tyres., means it has different block patterns on the outside and the inside.!! There is a marking "INSIDE" to indicate that that side is supposed to be fitted on the inside of the rims.

For me, as this also means that our CC5 tyres cannot be cross rotated, due to the asymmetrical pattern


EDIT: Corrected the error that the tyres are DIRECTIONAL tyres, they are not, they are ASYMMETRICAL.

This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 3 2011, 11:58 PM
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post Jul 3 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 3 2011, 11:02 PM)
what do u mean by cannot be cross rotated??
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Sorry, I just double check the tyres again.... its only asymmetrical (INSIDE/OUTSIDE) tyres, not directional.

Asymmetrical tyres have different block patterns as compared to symmetrical tyres (they have same pattern reversed on both sides of the thread). Our tyres have bigger blocks on the outside to improve handling during corners and water repellant blocks on the inside to help improve water handling on wet roads.

As such, asymmetrical tyres can only be installed the right was, INSIDE facing inside and OUTSIDE facing, outside.

Now, during cross rotation of tyres, the front left goes to back right and front right goes back left, thus the term cross rotation. When this happens, the fronts that are rolling in ONE direction, will now roll in the OPPOSITE direction when cross to the back. I personally will not want my tyres to roll in a different direction esp after its been rolling in the other direction, no??

More tyre wear, more uneven forces on the tyres, etc.... i dont expect the tyres will last long...

Anyway, this is my personal feelings.... sorry for any confusions caused. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:06 AM

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I have no ill intention, just asking you questions based on your post. Let's break it down, shall we??

QUOTE(Daniel520 @ Jul 3 2011, 06:01 PM)
Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ...


From this sentence, you have said you JUST TRIED in AUTO mode.... doesnt this imply that you had JUST (baru cuba) the first time tried the AUTO mode?? Hence, my question: Just curious, how the hell have you been driving an AUTO car??? U have been using the stick to shift from 1-6 and back down????

I am curious, why only NOW are you trying the AUTO mode, and how have you been driving your car ever since you got your car, by stick shift???

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full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???
Here you typed that your car went from 0-100km/h WITHOUT gear change. So again, you have implied that you have never tried the AUTO mode, and also that you dont know how AUTO or CVT gearboxes work. Hence my question: Hmmm..... u know how to drive an AUTO..??

So, you tell me, what clarifications you need..??
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 3 2011, 11:58 PM)
i dont know about 5 years, but we 2 years free service dont come with CVTF change, that is the only thing that was omited.

btw, 4b11 and 4b10 uses timing chain
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Not only that....

Spark Plugs are not included...
Brake Oil are not included...
Steering Oil are not included...
Brake Pads are not included...
Radiator Coolant not included...

The above are definitely needed, esp towards the end of the 2 years, and more so in 5 years time...
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:11 AM)
poadster, he just don't understand how cvt work ma... because traditional trasmission change gear will cause engine rpm drop, when he acceleration he saw inspira rpm no drop that why he thought all the way using the same gear lo....dont get too serious.... we all inspira owner dont fight back inspira owner ma... we bought this car we know more about our car , we more happy  smile.gif
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Me not fighting.... sorry if i offended him, his remark or his grammar and language is so..... cry.gif cry.gif



BTW, you can try asking most accessories shops for the rubber stopper for springs... the sizes for Inspira is A (the biggest for front) and E (the smallest for back).... I got em for lesser than RM100 for all, but depends on shop....
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:13 AM)
spark plugs 100k km

brake oil i dont know

steering oil i dont know

brake pads, no car manufacturer gives it under free service

Radiator coolant IS provided
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Just saying what else are not included ma...

I strongly doubt the Iridium sparks on the Inspira will last 100,000kms esp as advised by Proton. Proton recommends SEMI engine oil to last 10,000kms, CVT oil to be changed EVERY 80,000kms.

So, you wanna trust Protons' advice??

I think I will change them arnd 40,000kms.
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 4 2011, 12:16 AM)
You are just your usual self, cant help it by just being BLUNT!  tongue.gif
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Ya hor... forgot my infamous "Sorry but I have to be BLUNT" disclaimer... blush.gif blush.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:17 AM)
ok tq for your information , will go to ask... this 4 little "thing"  called rubber damper right? or other name? gonna do it 1 time together with change rim and tires, by the way because my friend's ford fiesta when he want to change rim ford staff told him the suspension system will void warranty(just suspension , not whole warranty void) , so will i void my suspension warranty if i change my rim and tires?
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I am sure there are many names, spring rubbers, spring absorbers... just tell them its the rubber/silicone thing that you slot between the coil of the springs... they shld know... if they dont, walk away... brows.gif brows.gif

Changing rim and tyres usually wont, but u cant complain on FC, NVH if you changed lo... but changing springs will void...
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:27 AM)
anyone here did 20k service before? how much should i expect, assuming i also want to change the cvt oil? also, is it just cvt oil change, and NOT cvt oil flush?

sorry for so many questions, just wanna make sure i know what they are gonna do at 20k, tks.
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Bro, I think you are the first few to hit 20K so far, so you have to be the guinea pig and do first, then you qualify as a sifu and then can teach us padawans.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on July 4, 2011, 12:32 am
QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
omg! i remember that day when u do servicing, i ask them to do the alignment for me too... n i remembered they change the wheels position leh.... bt nt sure whether they cross it or nt...  shakehead.gif

how do i check whether they put in the correct position??
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I think it may be too late to notice now.... coz they have already changed the tyre positions ma...

Just check at all you tyres, there will be a word OUTSIDE, and you are safe... if you see INSIDE, then the tyre is installed wrongly...

Next time u can tell them not to cross, just do front back sway... coz personally, i dont wan my tyres to roll in a different direction and is subjected to more uneven force and faster wear...

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post Jul 4 2011, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 4 2011, 12:39 AM)
dont trust proton nvm, trust mitsu la..

wikipedia pun ada, lancer manual pun ada rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif 

stated clearly here, which i posted b4 and it is even on the 1st post, spark plugs are changed every 100k km. but of course, u can change it at your own will.
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Hahahah... okok....

Proton uses diff parts than Mitsu ma.... engine oil oso Proton recommend SEMI... and same CVT oil last double the lifetime as compared to Mitsu ma...

I am doubting Proton's Iridium sparks supplier.... not Mitsu...

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post Jul 4 2011, 01:18 PM

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Since you challenged me to reply you and correct your english and your understanding of your car.... here goes..:-

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Just Tried out My Inspira in auto mode ... full acceleration from 0 - 100km/h it uses 1st gear go up to 100km/h without the need of changing gear??? The power of CVT???
Just Tried out My inspira in auto mode = Just tried out Inspira performance in Auto Mode
Different car has different performance == is that so hard to understand?
Ask any english teacher, or even yourself, does these two sentences have the same meaning???

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Full Acceleration from 0 - 100km/h = Pressing my Acceleration Pedal to the max without letting go from 0 - 100km/h. Do you know that when you press your acceleration Pedal without releasing it, for auto it will not change gear?? I don't  know if Mivec is the same but for other cars that I driven it will not change gear if you don't let go the accelerator.
Pls show me which car DONT upshift when you press the accelerator all the way, in D mode???? Even if you are in SPORTS mode of a gearbox, the gears WILL upshift itself AUTOMATICALLY (pun intended) to prevent the gearbox from overheating and breaking itself. In fact, even Inspira MT gearbox will also shutdown if you keep the gear at 7,000rpm.... someone here have experienced it.

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Now do you understand my broken english ??
Yes i do now, since you have made it clear... thank you very much.

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I may not speak/write very proper english but I do not see the case where you dun understand and it involves do i know how to drive an auto car.
FYI, your Inspira have TWO auto mode. One where you move the gear knob to D, and it engages the CVT. For CVT gearbox, there is no FIXED gear ratios unlike conventional gears, it maintains the gears dependant on the driver/engine requirements. Thus the term Continuous Variable Transmission, because the gears are.... varies continuously...

When you shift into D, you engage it into this mode, the gear indicator in your meter reads "D"

The second mode is when you move the gear knob to the right of D, this is the stick shift mode. Pulling the knob towards you will upshift while pushing it away will downshift (did i get this right?? i cant recall as i paddle mostly?? Anyone??). As CVT doesnt have any fixed ratio, but Jatco understands that drivers being drivers may want a kick in performance in their drive, thus the "semi-auto" mode found here. In this mode, the CVT gets a "fixed" 6 gear ratio, where the driver have control over when and at what RPM does the driver want to upshift the gear. This is mainly used when you need extra kick of speed, esp when you are drag racing another car.

Your gear indicator will read "1" - "6" accordingly to your "selected" gear..


So, if i have offended your puny feelings when i asked you do you know how to drive an auto car, i am sorry. I was referring if you even know how to differentiate the auto modes in your car, as you obviously do not. Also you have commented that your auto gearbox DONT upshift when you "pedal to the metal" - that's the term for flooring the pedal - again proving that you dont know how to drive an auto car.

So, my new question to you should be: Do you now know how to drive YOUR Inspira auto car???


Added on July 4, 2011, 1:25 pm
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I was only trying to understand how it works, but Poadster naming out things like do I know how to drive an auto == and checking my grammar ... he is not even answering my questions lolx and he got support by others which make no sense at all.
Also, pls read the other's replies carefully.

NO ONE supported ME, they supported you as they are simply telling me not to be so direct and BLUNT, as you are trying to learn.

This means they are telling me that you are asking to learn, and not that you are being cheeky and acting dumb... and that I should not be so harsh and BLUNT when replying you.

They are good and kind people, have well meaning and they have answered you patiently...

Comprende???

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post Jul 5 2011, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 4 2011, 06:49 PM)
Actually when u cross rotate it, the word outside/Inside will be at same position unless u take the rim n tyre out n change the other side right? Just the difference is when u change from left to rigth wheel or vice versa, the direction of spinning will b different. Outside will still b outside... Inside will still b inside... Right?
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Yes, you are accurate. If they simply swap the tyres and rims, then the tyre will be rightly installed still (inside is inside, outside is outside). And yes, only the roll direction will be different.

Again, personally, I prefer my tyres to roll in one direction, to reduce wear and noise.
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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 09:47 AM)
Thanks Matrix! Now, I found poadster post somewhere in the forum stating the following:
Well certainly that is very good already. So for sides, we are having VLT of 60% IRR 90%.
For front and back, I suppose it is the 64% TSER for the front which gives us VLT 58% and IRR 97%.
For the back, the 60% TSER gives us VLT 63% and IRR 95%.
If not mistaken JPJ regulation is 70% for side and 75% for front windshield? So this 60% and 58% VLT for sides and  front respectively is darker than allowed by the regulation? (I am just thinking of making it a bit darker).
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I'd suppose its safe, as EcoTint have said that if we kena JPJ summons, we simply collect the summons and pass it to them to settle it.

One word of caution, we should all take the original glass VLT properties into consideration when adding tint. Most tints are borderline JPJ approved limits, and adding them to the glass WILL exceed the JPJ ruling. So beware.

Also, as highlighted somewhere else in this FnF threads, Puspakom rulling on tint films are vastly LOWER than JPJ, again be aware.
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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Jul 5 2011, 11:26 AM)
Maximise from cool to warm? Means you turn to 30? The sound you heard is the water from the radiator going into the heater unit. Yes, Inspira has a cooling coil and heater unit in the same blower box. When you turn to warmet, the hot water from the radiator is channelled into the heater unit in the blower box to warm up the air, hence the kloosh' water sound... Why you turn to 30 anyway? Its stated in the service manual and I also checked that the water pipes are there as well.
Yeah, and these ppl argued with me that there is no way our aircon system have heated water pipes from radiator.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif


Added on July 5, 2011, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(Krepek @ Jul 5 2011, 03:16 PM)
SHIITTT!!!! my wife just hurt my INSPIRA by hitting a divider.. front bumper is scratched bad and got something lari sikit (from her report to me)... demmm... will have to go back early to diagnose the problem.... T_T....
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Demmm....!!! So sorry to hear that.... hope nothing major lari, based on experience, if the front bumper kena from the side, usually the bumper area near the wheel arch will lari... hope its minor and that you can "push" it back in...

XCInspire: His wife will meng-amok if she cant touch his "bini".... nanti no approval to get bini no.3 and 4.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(zuladha @ Jul 5 2011, 03:47 PM)
Car only ma. U should ask her....she ok or not. She is  more important for ur life ma.
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+1million...!!!
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QUOTE(lacteavia @ Jul 5 2011, 04:23 PM)
and cannot be replaceable with Insurance.
.... only by a newer model...??? blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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