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post Aug 11 2012, 11:40 AM

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Actually I have been wondering why this thread has so many out of topic discussion not related to Camry?
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post Aug 11 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 11 2012, 06:40 AM)
Actually I have been wondering why this thread has so many out of topic discussion not related to Camry?
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Cause this is what we called hijacking brows.gif

Camry no discount for raya sad.gif dugong got only
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Aug 11 2012, 11:55 AM)
Cause this is what we called hijacking  brows.gif

Camry no discount for raya  sad.gif  dugong got only
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Why want to hijack Camry's thread?
Lol, the car is still new I guess so response is quite good till no discount given.
Seen quite a few on the road already. hmm.gif
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post Aug 11 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 11 2012, 07:06 AM)
Why want to hijack Camry's thread?
Lol, the car is still new I guess so response is quite good till no discount given.
Seen quite a few on the road already.  hmm.gif
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I can tell around Ipoh, I see alot unker driving Camry 2012 liao.

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post Aug 11 2012, 12:26 PM

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those that made bad comments abt new camry, abt their low specs and old tech, has nothing to profit from drop of sales(maybe get some pride tongue.gif ).

but i think, by means of internet, unbound knowledge, we as consumers shud know more abt our products, whats happening ard the globe, are we being short-handed locally, in spirit of consumerism.

if we simply accept watever those bully sell to us, then they will continue to take advantage. In this very thread, camry is the example. Yes, it is realiable, yes, previous models has better RV than others, yes, parts are easily found, yes, nvh is good. But izzit really worth the price? Are they charging higher for bigger profit margin?

take for example, cbu lancer 2.0gt at 125k, and civic 2.0s with 60% local parts 127k. Suzuki kizashi cbu and camry umw, and many more. Is it a sitting duck easy prey hunting ground for these big bullies? Whereas the others are offering perks and specs to attract us? Are we simply killing ourselves by ignoring and become slaves?

just my 2c

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post Aug 11 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Aug 11 2012, 12:26 PM)
those that made bad comments abt new camry, abt their low specs and old tech, has nothing to profit from drop of sales(maybe get some pride  tongue.gif ).

but i think, by means of internet, unbound knowledge, we as consumers shud know more abt our products, whats happening ard the globe, are we being short-handed locally, in spirit of consumerism.

if we simply accept watever those bully sell to us, then they will continue to take advantage. In this very thread, camry is the example. Yes, it is realiable, yes, previous models has better RV than others, yes, parts are easily found, yes, nvh is good. But izzit really worth the price? Are they charging higher for bigger profit margin?

take for example, cbu lancer 2.0gt at 125k, and civic 2.0s with 60% local parts 127k. Suzuki kizashi cbu and camry umw, and many more. Is it a sitting duck easy prey hunting ground for these big bullies? Whereas the others are offering perks and specs to attract us? Are we simply killing ourselves by ignoring and become slaves?

just my 2c
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simple point is no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. its consumer choice.
you can campaign/lobby for better safety, but i feel we are not strong enough or have the right infra to do it in meleisial.

hence, the only realistic way to have better safety is via natural market force
e.g demand. cars wif better safety get better sales if consumers choose that path

however, that is also not the case. because a car is many things to many different people.
it does not only perform one function.


Added on August 11, 2012, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(IluvProton @ Aug 11 2012, 11:55 AM)
Camry no discount for raya  sad.gif  dugong got only
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even the outgoing camry also no diskaun
i was hoping to get 10k off the 2.4V but SA said not gonna happen




This post has been edited by vey99: Aug 11 2012, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Aug 11 2012, 01:26 PM)
those that made bad comments abt new camry, abt their low specs and old tech, has nothing to profit from drop of sales(maybe get some pride  tongue.gif ).

but i think, by means of internet, unbound knowledge, we as consumers shud know more abt our products, whats happening ard the globe, are we being short-handed locally, in spirit of consumerism.

if we simply accept watever those bully sell to us, then they will continue to take advantage. In this very thread, camry is the example. Yes, it is realiable, yes, previous models has better RV than others, yes, parts are easily found, yes, nvh is good. But izzit really worth the price? Are they charging higher for bigger profit margin?

take for example, cbu lancer 2.0gt at 125k, and civic 2.0s with 60% local parts 127k. Suzuki kizashi cbu and camry umw, and many more. Is it a sitting duck easy prey hunting ground for these big bullies? Whereas the others are offering perks and specs to attract us? Are we simply killing ourselves by ignoring and become slaves?

just my 2c
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Well said. This is what i feel of certain car manufacturer in Malaysia when they selling the car on certain prices.

Some of this car's brand really don't care as they know they can do this since their brand is very popular among Malaysian. But to me, when i doing research when searching for new b-segment car, after comparing all the specification and prices, i would stay away from buying from this kind of car manufacturer.

As long as the market perception doesn't change, this kind of car manufacturer will continue take our malaysia consumer for a ride, unless the change of market perception force them to think over their sale practices.
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post Aug 11 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 11 2012, 01:55 PM)
even the outgoing camry also no diskaun
i was hoping to get 10k off the 2.4V but SA said not gonna happen
Who said no discount? I was offered a RM 18K discount by the TTDI branch.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2012, 02:56 PM)
Who said no discount? I was offered a RM 18K discount by the TTDI branch.
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my neighbour got rm15k off 2.0G, but only that dark grey colour


Added on August 11, 2012, 3:00 pm
QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 11 2012, 01:55 PM)
simple point is no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. its consumer choice.
you can campaign/lobby for better safety, but i feel we are not strong enough or have the right infra to do it in meleisial.

hence, the only realistic way to have better safety is via natural market force
e.g demand. cars wif better safety get better sales if consumers choose that path

however, that is also not the case. because a car is many things to many different people.
it does not only perform one function.


Added on August 11, 2012, 1:57 pm
even the outgoing camry also no diskaun
i was hoping to get 10k off the 2.4V but SA said not gonna happen
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yeah, either by market force, or the gomen set the rules like CO2 emission, safety features, and so..
but we all know how our country with all the hoohah when debating, but implementing is totally different story

any of u guys buckle up at rear? at any time?

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2012, 02:56 PM)
Who said no discount? I was offered a RM 18K discount by the TTDI branch.
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 11 2012, 03:13 PM)
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Sorry la bro. U should have asked me earlier. I was asking around for someone who wanted to take up the offer.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2012, 03:17 PM)
Sorry la bro. U should have asked me earlier. I was asking around for someone who wanted to take up the offer.
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same here i was asking for my fren.


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QUOTE(masz94 @ Aug 11 2012, 11:12 AM)
Lol.... Honda creates Variable Valve Timing way earlier than Toyota.... and it's superior than Toyota's VVTL-i.....

i-Vtec is similar with VVT-i.....

Choosing SOHC engine configurations is a wise choice for small engines, especially engines that are coupled with Automatic transmission....

SOHC engine deals better in low RPM's compared to DOHC, which suits the enviroment of most of these small cars will spend their life's in... the city.... so it's a wise choice that Honda made....

Though i personally dislike SOHC coz i like to travel a lot and drive fast....
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Modern car engines are now geared towards fuel efficiency rather than performance. So really aside from car features, NA engine from brand A is unlikely to differ too much from brand B or brand C. Whatever difference is going to lie in the way difference manufacturers tune their engines and their cars.

Those days of a high revving VTEC engine in a non performance based saloon? Long gone~~~
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 11 2012, 03:39 PM)
Modern car engines are now geared towards fuel efficiency rather than performance. So really aside from car features, NA engine from brand A is unlikely to differ too much from brand B or brand C. Whatever difference is going to lie in the way difference manufacturers tune their engines and their cars.

Those days of a high revving VTEC engine in a non performance based saloon? Long gone~~~
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change of direction to what a company shud do best, make money ?? appease the common crowd rather that niche market
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post Aug 11 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 11 2012, 08:55 AM)
simple point is no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. its consumer choice.
you can campaign/lobby for better safety, but i feel we are not strong enough or have the right infra to do it in meleisial.

hence, the only realistic way to have better safety is via natural market force
e.g demand. cars wif better safety get better sales if consumers choose that path

however, that is also not the case. because a car is many things to many different people.
it does not only perform one function.


Added on August 11, 2012, 1:57 pm
even the outgoing camry also no diskaun
i was hoping to get 10k off the 2.4V but SA said not gonna happen
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2012, 09:56 AM)
Who said no discount? I was offered a RM 18K discount by the TTDI branch.
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2.4v SA in ipoh told me finish book before march. 2.0G got 15k discount only. you sure is 2.4v?
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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Aug 11 2012, 12:26 PM)
those that made bad comments abt new camry, abt their low specs and old tech, has nothing to profit from drop of sales(maybe get some pride  tongue.gif ).

but i think, by means of internet, unbound knowledge, we as consumers shud know more abt our products, whats happening ard the globe, are we being short-handed locally, in spirit of consumerism.

if we simply accept watever those bully sell to us, then they will continue to take advantage. In this very thread, camry is the example. Yes, it is realiable, yes, previous models has better RV than others, yes, parts are easily found, yes, nvh is good. But izzit really worth the price? Are they charging higher for bigger profit margin?

take for example, cbu lancer 2.0gt at 125k, and civic 2.0s with 60% local parts 127k. Suzuki kizashi cbu and camry umw, and many more. Is it a sitting duck easy prey hunting ground for these big bullies? Whereas the others are offering perks and specs to attract us? Are we simply killing ourselves by ignoring and become slaves?

just my 2c
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Just take the bus then.
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post Aug 11 2012, 06:23 PM

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my friend's 2011 camry has the knocking engine noise.is it normal n because of the ron 95 fuel?if so,why only japanese cars has that noise?my 01 odyysey and 06 city also has that noise.
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Hi any of u have sound like bocor exhaust when accelerate hard? My Camry now almost 30k mileage. It worst when going uphill when I accelerate.
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QUOTE(mywii @ Aug 11 2012, 06:46 PM)
Hi any of u have sound like bocor exhaust when accelerate hard? My Camry now almost 30k mileage. It worst when going uphill when I accelerate.
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If you feel the car is not in the usual running condition, send to service center and let the mechanic have a look.
If your car is still under warranty, inspection should be free.


Added on August 11, 2012, 10:49 pm
QUOTE(kepalapening @ Aug 11 2012, 05:46 PM)
Just take the bus then.
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sigh.... buses also not very safe, so many accidents involving buses... those bus companies also don't care about rakyat Malaysia punya life.... how can?

Guess we should boycott bus companies too?

By the way, oh dear, those buses running on our highway got VSC, EBD, traction control, airbag or not???

Sorry, just a joke..... don't bash me......

This post has been edited by landlily98: Aug 11 2012, 10:50 PM

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