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fanfankwok
post Mar 2 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Mar 2 2012, 10:38 PM)
Just do once which is borang B and due on 30 June. Ya its a bit complicated as you need to prepare the Profit and Loss a/c as well. So just get your co P&L ready and just fill in the blanks.

IRB will change your income tax number from SGXXXXXXXXXXXX to OGXXXXXXXXXXX later by an official letter.

Anyway still have ample time to do as due in June
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What is co P&L ?
jimbet1337
post Mar 3 2012, 02:12 AM

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In my EA form (2011), I don't understand Category F. It mentioned about "tunggakan" from 2010 where there's value for "arrears payment" and "PCB".

Do I need to declare this as well in my 2011 filing?
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post Mar 3 2012, 05:58 AM

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i hope i am correct unsure.gif

in my case:
the taxable income - 12months salary + fixed 1 month contractual bonus

those can be excluded :
1) performance bonus
2) cash award
3) transport allowance (monthly fixed)
4) any non-fixed allowance
5) petrol + toll claim if any

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post Mar 3 2012, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 3 2012, 05:58 AM)
i hope i am correct  unsure.gif

in my case:
the taxable income - 12months salary + fixed 1 month contractual bonus

those can be excluded :
1) performance bonus
2) cash award
3) transport allowance (monthly fixed)
4) any non-fixed allowance
5) petrol + toll claim if any

my comp EA sux !! combine everything together  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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I believe item 1 and 2 should be included in the annual gross income. Unless they're being stated clearly that it is being tax exempted.
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 3 2012, 06:25 AM)
I believe item 1 and 2 should be included in the annual gross income. Unless they're being stated clearly that it is being tax exempted.
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hmmm.. but i thought they will be in tax exempted part .. sorry but i not tax or account pro rclxub.gif blush.gif

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post Mar 3 2012, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(fanfankwok @ Mar 2 2012, 10:59 PM)
What is co P&L ?
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your company's proft and loss account


Added on March 3, 2012, 6:35 am
QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 3 2012, 06:30 AM)
hmmm.. but i thought they will be in tax exempted part .. sorry but i not tax or account pro  rclxub.gif  blush.gif
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yup item 1 and 2 have to be included because it is considered as addition income for your (benefit in kind)

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post Mar 3 2012, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 3 2012, 06:30 AM)
hmmm.. but i thought they will be in tax exempted part .. sorry but i not tax or account pro  rclxub.gif  blush.gif
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That's why I mentioned earlier. If your company reports them under Section B Pendapatan Penggajian, Manfaat Dan Tempat Kediaman, then it's not tax exempted.

If your company reports them under Section G Jumlah Elaun/Perkuisit/Manfaact Yang Dikecualikan Cukai, then you're absolutely correct.
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Mar 3 2012, 02:12 AM)
In my EA form (2011), I don't understand Category F. It mentioned about "tunggakan" from 2010 where there's value for "arrears payment" and "PCB".

Do I need to declare this as well in my 2011 filing?
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Yes you need to declare
arrears payment is the amount that was not included/declared the previous year (2010 filing) so need to include in your 2011 filing
PCB is the amount of tax that was deducted directly from your salary in 2011 which you company has already paid to IRB for you, so after your tax amount is computed you just less this PCB from there to know whether you need to pay additional tax/get a refund for overpaid tax
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 3 2012, 06:41 AM)
That's why I mentioned earlier. If your company reports them under Section B Pendapatan Penggajian, Manfaat Dan Tempat Kediaman, then it's not tax exempted.

If your company reports them under Section G Jumlah Elaun/Perkuisit/Manfaact Yang Dikecualikan Cukai, then you're absolutely correct.
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i see..

giler one my company.. declare everything under section B in EA form, including petrol allowance etc etc.. habis

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post Mar 3 2012, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 10:48 PM)
hi guys - i have a question - for the :

Faedah pinjaman perumahan (FYI I qualify so don't worry about that)

My house is under both my name and my wife's name and my interest is approx 8k for 2011 - should this be split equally 50-50 or can this be fully allocated to either myself or my wife for the pelepasan? does anyone know?
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CyberKewl, you can split it by %, make sure you retain that document that mentioned the interest you paid in case it's being asked.
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Mar 3 2012, 08:22 AM)
CyberKewl, you can split it by %, make sure you retain that document that mentioned the interest you paid in case it's being asked.
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Ok, so that means can split 50% but also can fully allocate to either person right just as long as has the document for proof?
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Mar 3 2012, 02:12 AM)
In my EA form (2011), I don't understand Category F. It mentioned about "tunggakan" from 2010 where there's value for "arrears payment" and "PCB".

Do I need to declare this as well in my 2011 filing?
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Yes declare it at part G on page 5 in BE 2011

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Feb 28 2012, 04:50 PM)
Congrats. They are starting to audit you.

Anyway, if all your past 7 years docs are in order, there is nothing to worry.  thumbup.gif  Just go bang table with them.

If there are fake deductions or no proof or i-dont-know submissions ... kantoi  sweat.gif
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there are 2 things that i'm irritated about:

1. they should've just asked me for all the documents one shot, rather than ask for last year's one, then after i provide all the documents, then ask for some more. it's like they can't find anything wrong, so now they want to dig up further hoping that i can't prove it.

2. they're asking me to get my employers to sign on the EA forms. the documents they're asking for is 6 years ago, 5 years ago and 3 years ago, which means i have to go to my former employers and get them to sign???? sheesh....


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post Mar 3 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Mar 3 2012, 06:41 AM)
Yes you need to declare
arrears payment is the amount that was not included/declared the previous year (2010 filing) so need to include in your 2011 filing
PCB is the amount of tax that was deducted directly from your salary in 2011 which you company has already paid to IRB for you, so after your tax amount is computed you just less this PCB from there to know whether you need to pay additional tax/get a refund for overpaid tax
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So if there's tax paid in excess where IRB needs to return to me for 2011 filing, how am I going to top up the extra of PCB from 2010? I'm currently doing e-Filing and there's no column to fill in for PCB value from 2010.


QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 3 2012, 01:28 PM)
Yes declare it at part G on page 5 in BE 2011
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Ok, this section is to fill in the Arrears from 2010. How about PCB?

Thank you
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post Mar 3 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Mar 3 2012, 03:41 PM)
So if there's tax paid in excess where IRB needs to return to me for 2011 filing, how am I going to top up the extra of PCB from 2010? I'm currently doing e-Filing and there's no column to fill in for PCB value from 2010.
Ok, this section is to fill in the Arrears from 2010. How about PCB?

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towards the start of the computation under "pendapat berknun" there is a column for you to fill the PCB paid

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post Mar 3 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Mar 3 2012, 03:58 PM)
towards the start of the computation under "pendapat berknun" there is a column for you to fill the PCB paid
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Under pendapatan berkanun? Can't find any related to PCB of previous year.

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 3 2012, 09:39 AM)
Ok, so that means can split 50% but also can fully allocate to either person right just as long as has the document for proof?
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That's right.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Mar 3 2012, 04:46 PM)
Under pendapatan berkanun? Can't find any related to PCB of previous year.

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ur PCB relates to 2010 or 2011? Did you do your filing for 2010?
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Hi, i am declare tax together with my wife under one form.

Any special thing like my wife's insurance, study fee (waiver for pengajian) can be the waiver?
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Mar 3 2012, 04:47 PM)
That's right.
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great. thx for the info smile.gif

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