QUOTE(remysix @ Sep 5 2007, 11:34 AM)
If wanna stress your CPU, try run Prime with Small FFTs,
you should see few degree more higher compare now
Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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Oct 20 2007, 12:33 AM
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Oct 20 2007, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Oct 19 2007, 02:54 PM) aluminum radiator is very much cheaper compare to copper 1............. but speaking of galvanizing effects, unless ur coolant is very very conductive it hardly noticeble corrossion problem...... earlier i was speaking about using water without coolant... using water only will definitely result in much faster galvanic corrosion. coolant additives will slow it down significantly but will never completely prevent it. even experienced users have reported significant corrosion on the old Swiftech MCW5000/5002 which had an anodized aluminium top within 18 months. This is straight from marci, a known legend: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136333after seeing some result describe by you guys, i'm itchy to get a water cooling kit too. i wander how far can my quad go with WC kits..... |
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Oct 20 2007, 11:29 AM
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anodized aluminum might be the problem............need to dig in to see whether anodized the alunimum would make the base material become more active.
thx for the info...... |
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Oct 20 2007, 11:50 AM
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No, actually anodizing is meant to isolate the underlying aluminium from corrosion. It does not make aluminium more reactive.
A direct quote from Marci in that thread I posted: QUOTE Anodized aluminium is fine to use in a loop if you can GUARANTEE that the quality of anodizing is perfect. The slightest scratch that goes thru the anodized layer, exposing bare aluminium underneath, will result in corrosion taking place very quickly. FluidXP etc will slow down the problem, but if you don't change the FluidXP frequently enough then corrosion will still take place. Same applies to distilled water and anti-corrosive additive. As you can't guarantee the quality of the anodizing in the hardware within our scene, it's just safer to steer clear of aluminium altogether. So yeah. That means anodizing still cannot prevent galvanic corrosion in a long run. This post has been edited by MetalZone: Oct 20 2007, 11:51 AM |
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Oct 20 2007, 05:18 PM
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hhaha .. just do a regular cleaning and changing the coolant would do the trick ..
It's simply like cleaning the drain of the house often to prevent those wacky stuffs growing along the drain .,... hahaha |
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Oct 22 2007, 08:45 PM
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bro coolermaster aquagate r120 good ka???
if i want to add reseirvoir can?? because original aquagate dun have reseirvoir.... |
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Oct 22 2007, 10:57 PM
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I don't think anyone that is serious about wc would recommend using aquagate120 coz the performance is not even at the same level as top air cooler ..
so most would suggests just choose a good air cooler rather than investing in least performing wc kit .. besides if u remove the tube from either component, that would void ur warranty .. apart from that, there won't be much of improvement even with reservoir installed.. This post has been edited by Doom: Oct 22 2007, 10:58 PM |
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Oct 22 2007, 11:12 PM
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I would think that there wont be ANY improvement by adding a reservoir.
The topic on this has been discussed several times and it's conclusive that if you want significant improvement over air cooling, you have to get better water cooling. |
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Oct 23 2007, 02:54 PM
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i dun want serious cool la..
hehhehe.... now using gemin-II also very cool... i just want to brag with aquagate.. hahahah... how about this setup??? Swiftech Apogee GT = RM199 Nirox P2800 Pre-modded = RM40 Swiftech MCR220-QP = RM195 Swiftech MCRES Micro = RM90 anything that can i add??? This post has been edited by amd_hardcore: Oct 23 2007, 02:58 PM |
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Oct 23 2007, 09:01 PM
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It's doing fine .... but it all depend on how much of performance u are looking out from the wc setup ..
some want to OC aggressively, a better CPU block and triple rad.. some like me just casual wc user that look for silent and cool, apogee GT and dual rad would do just fine ... It all depend how what u want .. and do remember to specify the size of the barb and tube that gonna use... |
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Oct 23 2007, 09:04 PM
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that barb thing la i dont know how?
never see wc cooling real life.. poor me... if make short loop can reduced the heat rite? so will bigger tube will effect anything? sorry noob here , but like to experience |
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Oct 23 2007, 09:34 PM
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Barb is a connector between ur cooling device and tube ... Usually comes with different size for the thread and the hose ...
a bigger size allowed more water flow but the tube would be difficult to manage as compared to smaller tubes .. However I don't think there would be anyone that is serious with wc would not recommend to get larger size .. usually it's 1/2 Inch Shorter tube would not improve the temperature if ur pump is pushing enough of flow .. which is determine by how many litter or gallon per minute ... higher it is it could push the water within the loop faster .. so the length of the tubes doesn't affect too much .. besides with longer tube that mean more water and it could managed more heats produced by the component .. Imagine you're boiling two kettles of water with 1L in one of it and 2L in another one .. with the same heat level, which kettle would boiled first ?? obviously is the kettle with lesser water .. so got the idea right . |
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Oct 23 2007, 09:35 PM
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owh.. got it...
maybe next month will get the wc kit from metalzone since i can cod with him.. hahhaha... will give it a try... |
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Nov 7 2007, 08:29 AM
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this question just came to me recently, if i were goin into water cooling but i only use it for short period for most of the time ( ~ 1 hours or less) and i would need it to operate without problem for daily on & off use... it is advisable ?? need some sifu advice on this ........
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Nov 7 2007, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 7 2007, 08:29 AM) if i were goin into water cooling but i only use it for short period for most of the time ( ~ 1 hours or less) and i would need it to operate without problem for daily on & off use... it is advisable ?? on this ........ Why not? |
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Nov 8 2007, 10:43 AM
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but on & off so frequently would definately cut the life span a lot rite ? and i believe the water loop would also suffer pressure stress....
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Nov 9 2007, 01:51 AM
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hahahaha.....metalzone now sifu WC eh now? So long never check in here. Let's see:
Lexus65, for your question, no worries since the head pressure being supplied isn't sufficient to cause what one would call a water hammer situation so no need to worry about that. In fact my water pumo which costs "only" RM70 lasted me 5 years so far constant on and off. And as for my waterblock, well no leakgaes so far bar the insufficient tightening of barbs after cleaning I sometimes forget to do. |
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Nov 9 2007, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 9 2007, 01:51 AM) hahahaha.....metalzone now sifu WC eh now? So long never check in here. LOL. I'm no sifu lerrr... |
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Nov 9 2007, 03:09 AM
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Nov 9 2007, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 7 2007, 08:29 AM) this question just came to me recently, if i were goin into water cooling but i only use it for short period for most of the time ( ~ 1 hours or less) and i would need it to operate without problem for daily on & off use... it is advisable ?? need some sifu advice on this ........ well it doesn't matter how long do u use ur pc, as a matter of fact i think most of us use our pc as another toy, well, just buy urself a wc kit n have a little adventure ther... we all like toys don't we... |
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